Hello Captains,I'm curious what kind of procedures do you practice as NGX pilots ;)What procedures should I know to fly NGX? (e. g. approaches: ILS/DME, ILS DME, ILS, LLZ/DME, LLZ DME, LLZ, LLZ, VOR/DME, VOR DME, VOR, NDB DME, NDB, 2 NDB, Visual; missed approach, racetrack, holding, ARC DME, etc...)Are all of these above needed to fly 737NG? :) Maybe there are some more important procedures...I would like to know what should I practice with this bird ;)All best,

You pretty much summed it up already.

Those are the most important ones, yes :( Seriously tho, you should fly the visual the most. Handfly the tube :) Fly a few patterns. Handfly vnav/lnav. Thats the most fun imo.

I landed by hand at LOWI (RWY 08 circling) using visual approach over 70 times ;) And now every time make it perfectly ;) Know how to land using ILS/DME procedure, how to make holdings, racetracks, missed approach :) I always land by hand, that makes me lot of fun ;)But e. g. 2 NDB approach, ARC DME and some described above are something new for me, I know the idea, but have never practiced these ;)))

Once you covered the basics of automation, RW, you would start working on malfunctions Start with some simple ones and run the QRH. You can add these to your normal flights. . Hydraulics and flight controls are usually the most involved.Engine failures should be on your list at some point.

Once you covered the basics of automation, RW, you would start working on malfunctions Start with some simple ones and run the QRH. You can add these to your normal flights. . Hydraulics and flight controls are usually the most involved.Engine failures should be on your list at some point.

Matt, this is very good idea :) Have QRH printed.And what about 2 NDB approach or e.g. ARC DME. Is it worth to learn them? ;)

Matt, this is very good idea :) Have QRH printed.And what about 2 NDB approach or e.g. ARC DME. Is it worth to learn them? ;)

I'd say a DME ARC is necessary, but I've never performed one in the 737 that wasn't done on LNAV. In smaller planes, yes, and it's req'd to get your ratings.I suppose it boils down to what your goal is. Most people here are happy to do autolands and minimal airmanship. If you want to train more like a real pilot, you need to cover everything. I'd say that means QRH and engine failures come before 2 NDB holds and approaches. Learn visual approaches, stall recovery, etc.

The only thing missing is GPS/RNAV approaches.

You have just given me a great list of everything to practice at, ive been sim flying 5 years and never performed a DME arc or LLZ/DME

You have just given me a great list of everything to practice at, ive been sim flying 5 years and never performed a DME arc or LLZ/DME

There is also L approach (locator approach), almost the same as NDB approach ;)I think it's hard to find airports to practice such specific procedures, especially when you fly from/to your favourite airports.

I'd say a DME ARC is necessary, but I've never performed one in the 737 that wasn't done on LNAV. In smaller planes, yes, and it's req'd to get your ratings.I suppose it boils down to what your goal is. Most people here are happy to do autolands and minimal airmanship. If you want to train more like a real pilot, you need to cover everything. I'd say that means QRH and engine failures come before 2 NDB holds and approaches. Learn visual approaches, stall recovery, etc.

Yes, I would like to train more like a real pilot, don't use autolands (only when airport is CATIII). Your idea sounds great, I will try this! QRH, engine failures, visual approaches, stall recovery and then specific procedures I described in my first post.You wrote some procedures can be performed in smaller planes, so I understand some of them can't be performed in bigger planes, like 737?

2 NDB is pretty straight forward as it's just "hunting the NDB's, but then twice. I've done it alot at EBOS." Flying an ARC is defenitely something you want to practice. There are several techniques to fly an ARC. For me the most challenging part of it is often the interception angle (and the speed/pace it all happens)Bert Van Bulck

Yes, I would like to train more like a real pilot, don't use autolands (only when airport is CATIII). Your idea sounds great, I will try this! QRH, engine failures, visual approaches, stall recovery and then specific procedures I described in my first post.You wrote some procedures can be performed in smaller planes, so I understand some of them can't be performed in bigger planes, like 737?

A typical civilian European progression might be light single for your PPL and then CPL and Instrument ratings in a complex single or light twin. Then it would be off to 737 school. So, you're probably missing out on all of the steep turns, chandelles, lazy-8s, etc. Many of these you typically don't spend time on once you've done them in a trainer. Since you've got "free" sim time, you could do them in the NGX. You don't normally hear of a 737 doing a turn about a point, but it'd still work the same.You could always do that stuff in the FSX and transfer over, or however you'd like to do it. There's more to do in the world than variations of ILS approaches. Try checking out the maneuvers section of the FCTM and try the steep turns. It's a good thing to know.

approaches: ILS/DME, ILS DME, ILS, LLZ/DME, LLZ DME, LLZ, LLZ, VOR/DME, VOR DME, VOR, NDB DME, NDB, 2 NDB, Visual; missed approach, racetrack, holding, ARC DME

Look at it from the bright side, ILS/DME and ILS DME is the same thing, LLZ/DME and LLZ DME is the same thing, LLZ = LLZ, VOR/DME and VOR DME is the same thing, VOR is the same thing as VOR DME as they both are VFR, maybe you will have markers but they are soon extincted.So the list doesn't look so big if you only have ILS/DME, ILS, LLZ/DME, LLZ, VOR/DME, NDB DME, NDB, 2 NDB, Visual; missed approach, racetrack, holding, ARC DME.But if you can do a VFR flight then the ILS and LLZ is the same thing and if you can do these two then you can absolutely do a VOR radial approach, the difference is that you use PAPI etc. for G/S track. NDB...if you actually find a NDB becon used for approach in the real world then I'am sure that a pilot used to the other navaids will land the plane.

Try to fly the windshear escape maneuver after take off. But I have no idea, how to set up the Simulator for that, or if the NGX supports windshear detection(since there's no WX-radar).I've done that in a real 737 Sim and it's scary as **********

VOR is the same thing as VOR DME as they both are VFR, maybe you will have markers but they are soon extincted.

WOA! Hold you horses there!! A regular VOR is not the same as a VOR/DME. For a VOR only approach the step downs and MAPt is all time dependant. For a VOR/DME they are distance (sometimes also time) dependant. These types of approaches are most definetly NOT VFR!!Here in europe and especially in the east there are still many NDB approaches left.

if you can do a VFR flight then the ILS and LLZ is the same thing

Again! these two are two different things. VFR are flight rules. ILS and LLZ are approach aids. Even they are different when flown.ILS is a precision approach. Normally will take you down to 200feet AGL. And if the airport is approved the DH(A) can be lowered. This is CAT II and III.LLZ is a non-precision approach. it doesn't have vertical guidance. The vertical profile can be either from DME distances or time from a procedure turn. (this is mostly NDB's though) In a large transport aircraft you would do NPA's as a CDA approaches. If you want fun try the NDB approach runway 14 at ESTA!So Daniel get your facts together, before you fill inexperienced simmers with wrong information.Kind regards,