“In addition in FSX you have the real freedom of flying in whatever airport and region of the world.”

True

 

“The standard ones are cheap but the 3rd party addons airports and scenarios are gorgeous.”

Depends on what you buy.

 

“BTW, REX Essential for FSX is coming and it will hit hardly the cheap clouds of Flight.”

Maybe, I’ll believe when I see.

 

 

 

 

The problem Mark is that Mr. Hughes has taken more than the 2 days he said to procure us with an awesome scenery. I guess atm, a TWA flight is not available

 

“The standard ones are cheap but the 3rd party addons airports and scenarios are gorgeous.”

Depends on what you buy.

 

Usually, Aerosoft airports are fine and also Fly Tampa ones are great. Do you agree ?

 

 

“BTW, REX Essential for FSX is coming and it will hit hardly the cheap clouds of Flight.”

Maybe, I’ll believe when I see.

 

You can start looking at REX forum, there are lot of screenshots and lot of descriptions about the product. Of course REX Essential won't impact FPS more than what REX 2 OD is already doing and in addition it will have the option to cut water animations according to preferences and FPS.

Exactly. I also think Flight is a fantastic base for a high quality sim and am truly disappointed to see it taking a different direction. Don't get me wrong, i understand they want to earn money and that's normal but it's not fair to divide the community with moves like this. Simultaneous release of both basic and deluxe a/c model would be the best solution since no one would feel let down.

I also agree with the second part of your post :) I hope that's what happens so that we can all look back and smirk at how impatient we were. However, there is one thing i can never understand and that is an extreme lack of communication from MS side. Is it so hard for them to just talk to us through any means available? Is it too much to ask to just be informed where are they heading and at which pace. It could only do good to Flight. It's psychology; they tease the community with some slim information about upcoming releases and do it on regular basis. Or at least give us hints about features Flight is lacking and they're working on. I sent them a private message on Facebook asking about force feedback support, deluxe to basic model release ratio, custom and real world weather and bunch of other stuff and they replied with "Sorry, i can not answer your questions". Not even one? That's just not right.

 

Still, i am enjoying Flight for what it is now and that's an awesome GA sim / game but the biggest problem i have with it is not Flight itself, rather Microsoft's blurry and undefined strategy for it's future. That's what makes me angry the most.

 

 

Cheers

 

I am with you on this one.....it is the total lack of response from any one person or moderator from MS Flight that upsets me the most. Whether we are expressing positive or negative feedback, not one person has been answered. This is a slap in the face to the people who are laying out monies to buy this product. If any one of us was to walk into a restaurant, clothing store, car dealer, etc and receive that kind of response 9 out of 10 of us would do an about face and never look back and this is exactly how I feel MS Flight is treating their customers.

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Usually, Aerosoft airports are fine and also Fly Tampa ones are great. Do you agree ?

 

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You can start looking at REX forum, there are lot of screenshots and lot of descriptions about the product. Of course REX Essential won't impact FPS more than what REX 2 OD is already doing and in addition it will have the option to cut water animations according to preferences and FPS.

 

Yes, I agree. Most of us old time simmers (25+ years simming) know that, but new guys don't, and many times they end up buying cheapo low quality products.

 

I have been following REX Essentials, and will most likely buy it. But I also have to see what Flight offers in the future. (If I understand correctly there might be some kind of deal going on with major 3PD guys, although I don’t know if it’s true or with whom)

 

 

I like both Flight and FSX, and have no problem running them both.

and it will hit hardly the cheap clouds of Flight.

 

Cheap clouds...?

 

 

and in addition it will have the option to cut water animations according to preferences and FPS.

 

Ah, luckily I don't have to cut animations in Flight, not even when havings reflections (and shadows) enabled. I love those reflections!

I understand that there are people who love WWII war birds but the least they could do is simultaneously release a basic war bird and a deluxe civilian aircraft and simply offer it to both target groups of Flight. This is just too much.

They better have something incredible in store for us within Alaska DLC. If they stick to this strategy and keep neglecting other group of Flight users, many people will lose all respect for them and that will directly affect sales.

I hope they know what they're doing.

 

Ah, i am so so mad right now and i'm off to sleep (4:40 am here).

 

 

Wow, I couldn't have said that better myself. Give us at least a DC-3 with a cockpit , of course. I have have been playing this game just about everyday and it is getting old hauling monkeys and 3 people (not necesarily in that order) lol ATC PLEASE.......

“The standard ones are cheap but the 3rd party addons airports and scenarios are gorgeous.”

Depends on what you buy.

 

Usually, Aerosoft airports are fine and also Fly Tampa ones are great. Do you agree ?

 

 

They are great.

 

But it would be interesting to see a cost per sq. ft. (not counting ocean) comparison between Flight's Hawaii, Aerosoft Dillingham, Fly Tampa St Marrten, and maybe ORBX PNW.

 

I'm sure Flight's Hawaii and ORBX would blow Aersoft and Fly Tampa out of the water in the cost department. Of course the quality of the scenery is much harder to quantitively compare. I personally think Flight and ORBX are the clear winners there, but that could be easily debated and not-so-easily decided.

Good catch on the P-40C! I noticed the similarities to the P-40 cowl flaps, but couldn't find a pic with those rectangular ports. The P-40C in the Paul Allen collection does indeed have those.

 

Just a thought, since they obviously have access to the Paul Allen collection for reference (it contains, among other things, a Zero replica, a P-40C and a P-51), there's a chance that we'll get the best bush plane ever, the Storch! WITH a cockpit, naturally...

Cheap clouds...?

 

 

 

 

Ah, luckily I don't have to cut animations in Flight, not even when havings reflections (and shadows) enabled. I love those reflections!

 

IMO those Flight clouds are simply dark and look cheap. They may seem different due to the background sky.

 

These are the old version of REX, none the less they look more real into FSX and the new unpcoming REX version will be definitely much more better.

 

Sorry to post jet shots into a Flight forum but this blasphemy it is an exception. Please MS do not sue me for posting jet pictures.

 

 

IMO those Flight clouds are simply dark and look cheap. They may seem different due to the background sky.

 

These are the old version of REX, none the less they look more real into FSX and the new unpcoming REX version will be definitely much more better.

 

Sorry to post jet shots into a Flight forum but this blasphemy it is an exception. Please MS do not sue me for posting jet pictures.

 

 

 

OK... you win... FSX with all the add ons you have is far superior to the mind numbingly crude appearance of Flight.

 

Only a drooling knuckle dragging moron would bother playing such a simple game as Flight.

 

True hardcore simmers must endeavor to eliminate this blight on the landscape of alleged entertainment software.

 

I see it all so clearly now.

It is not a matter of winning or losing, this is not a race, this is a forum.

 

I only let users to judge pictures and take their conclusions.

IMO those Flight clouds are simply dark and look cheap. They may seem different due to the background sky.

 

These are the old version of REX, none the less they look more real into FSX and the new unpcoming REX version will be definitely much more better.

 

Sorry to post jet shots into a Flight forum but this blasphemy it is an exception. Please MS do not sue me for posting jet pictures.

 

 

 

The problem with FSX clouds is they are flat sprites and the (embedded) lighting isn't good: there are shadows all over them on the wrong places and you always see white parts and white clouds where there can't be any. Like in your second screenshot: when you only look at the clouds you have no idea where the sun could be. And specially those HD-clouds look way too sharp (which becomes even more clear when clouds nearby are fuzzy and clouds in the far disctance are overly crisp). To me it looks like a random collage of various photographs (which sometimes even are upside down).

 

I am not saying this because I like Flight more but I've been saying this all the years I used FSX and REX (and FEX before that). I fully agree that Flight has some utterly disgusting clouds, but Flight also offers some very convincing skies with clouds that you can fly through. Obviously I'd like to have something for REX for Flight (with the new possibilities that Flight offers) so I am not stuck with just a few weather themes I like, but imho Flight's clouds are a huge improvement over FSX's clouds.

 

Let's not forget it's also a matter of taste: the first thing I did whenever I installed REX was turning down the resolution options to the lowest possible because imho those high res clouds don't look realistic. Maybe once or twice a year I see clouds like that in real life, but the rest of the year the clouds look more like they do in low res.

 

This evening I will make some screenshots of the skies in Flight at daytime (because you can't really see the clouds in dawn etc.) to see if I am really right or not about Flight being so much better, because obviously love can make a man blind...

Yes, that is also a matter of taste you are right.

 

Anyway it sounds really weird that we are comparing a 6-7 years old game with a new one. In theory there should be a huge gap between them in terms of graphic while we are facing a comparison instead.

 

In addition, in FSX the weather is fully customizable and you also have the option to download the real weather. This option was available since the birth of FSX while in Flight such fundamental weather option is missing.

 

All the above mentioned statements must be taken into consideration when comparing FSX cloud and Flight ones.

All the above mentioned statements must be taken into consideration when comparing FSX cloud and Flight ones.

 

Correct. When you put it like that it's of course a disgrace Flight only has a few themes with okay clouds... Still, for me having Flight is better then not having it and being stuck with FSX.

These are the old version of REX

 

Were the clouds supposed to be that ugly? I saw better clouds in default FSX.

 

Individual weather effects in Flight are stunning, but they aren't as well integrated as they could be. Still, not bad for version 1.01 of a game that's going to be improved over a long lifetime.

 

Hook

Just let me show how Hawaii appear in FSX B)

 

I think it is quite embarrassing

 

I apologize again for posting jet pictures, please MS be gentle in your reaction.