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Just wondering if PMDG were thinking about adding this feature to the 777 or even the 747v2, I know its a big fps killer but i was just curious??

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Depends on whether there are any animations left... Too soon to tell I guess.

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Juuuuuussttt wait...(for PMDG to announce something) Or, use common sence.If it wasnt availible with the NGX, and its well known that most of the coding will be used from the NGX, then why would it be availible on the T7?....as nice as it would be :wink:

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i don't like any big FPS killer honestly... i don't have a great computer and i struggle with FPS so everything wich takes many FPS like AI traffic, AS clouds graphics etc... i allways have off

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If it's an FPS killer then if it rains I'll have to turn it off because I only get 30-40FPS with the NGX, wouldn't like to go below 20 ha.

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fps loss due to the effect being on top of all the other effects(NGX), or the effect itself?..

 

As when im flying RealAirs turbine duke in the rain, that has VC rain effects, i dont really notice any diffrence..but i havnt pulled the fps counter up and measured any fps loss as i havnt felt the need to, because performance hasnt become an issue.

 

:unknw:

 

The same with JustFlights DC-3, it has rain effect, and the wiper even clears an area to be able to see, again with no noticable performance loss

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Just because it isn't noticeable to you, doesn't mean it won't be noticeable on someone else's computer.

Also, it simply wasn't possible to add the Rain Effect in the NGX VC, the 777 will probably face the same issues.

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They have already said they won't don't it. Probably the only feature I asked about. I wish they would at least give an option for users with fast systems but they are not gonna budge on it.

 

Personally I don't care if the aircraft has fancy animations on the outside, I would rather they uses it all on vc features. Don't see the point in working wipers when they don't wipe anything.

 

I still enjoy landing some fs9 aircraft in near CATIII conditions and heavy rain with the wipers working overtime

 

At the end of the day it's not PMDG's fault, just the crappy limitations on an otherwise good simulator

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I might be mistaken here, but if I remember correctly, the animations on the inside and the animations on the outside are two different things.(or at least, the inside and outside model.)

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You may be right, which makes me think if they can get a hud in the NGX why can't they get rain drops on the windshield.

 

It's really not a big deal on the grand scheme of things but something that has always confused me regarding FSX

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Because they used up all the animations (for the inside model, which is what you see when you're in the cockpit.)

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What I'm saying is, the NGX has an option for HUD/no HUD correct? So if the HUD takes up animations, if not used why can't they use those for other features?

 

Genuine question, not trying to start an argument mate ;) just confuses me. I completely accept the fact they won't add rain drops on the windshield, just trying to gain some knowledge.

 

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Probably because, even though you're not using it, it still has to be loaded in memory. I think that's how they can get it to appear and disappear through the CDU.

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Just because it isn't noticeable to you, doesn't mean it won't be noticeable on someone else's computer.

 

AMD 5600 duelcore..3 gig ram,nothing fancy.

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In my opinion, it should be an option for those who have a rig that can handle it.

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I agree Matt, if it was possible to code in the rain effect and was available as an option, then that would be great. I love the video, can't remember which one, it may be the FS2Crew promo for the Ifly, which shows the plane departing from the airport in the torturous rain and it looks fantastic! Looks very immersive. EDIT Yes, it is the FS2Crew vid...

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If I remember correctly has nothing to do with aircraft makers like pmdg its an fsx issue, microsoft left it out so fsx would have to be revised for it to work not addon aircraft guys, to bad.

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I agree Matt, if it was possible to code in the rain effect and was available as an option, then that would be great. I love the video, can't remember which one, it may be the FS2Crew promo for the Ifly, which shows the plane departing from the airport in the torturous rain and it looks fantastic! Looks very immersive. EDIT Yes, it is the FS2Crew vid...

Holy crap! Here I was thinking the rain was worthless, but that vidoe made me want rain drops! But if its a choice between drops and system fidelity, then I can keep living without them. They sure are nice tho....

 

Also that music was pretty epic as well.

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It would be a nice option to have, but when you think about it, how often does it rain compared to it not raining? Also, the effect would be used for only a limited time during a flight - during takeoff, landing and taxi. Those phases really do make up a tiny portion of the majority of flights, thus making the use of computer resources and effects elsewhere more beneficial.

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Just found this:

 

SDK's are software development kits, the tools that MS provides to all of us (you too can make addons if you have the skills, necessary) to make FS addons.

If an addon plane was designed for FS9 using the FS9 SDK and it has VC rain effects and it is directly ported over to FSX and the necessary VC rain files are copied over, you will have VC rain. If an addon is designed for FSX using the FSX SDK, it will have no rain VC effects.

Google vcrain.zip or rlvcrain.zip and you will find plenty on getting VC rain effects to work on FS9 addons ported over to FSX.

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That FS2Crew video almost makes me want to install FS9 again just for the rain effects :LMAO: :LMAO:

 

Too bad ACES couldn't get the rain effects in FSX as they had been in FS9, or the snow effects for that matter.

 

 

Sean Campbell

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That FS2Crew video almost makes me want to install FS9 again just for the rain effects :LMAO: :LMAO:

 

Too bad ACES couldn't get the rain effects in FSX as they had been in FS9, or the snow effects for that matter.

 

 

Sean Campbell

since didnt have fs9 so cant comment on that part but the pmdg js4100 has the rain effects and also ice effects as well on the wind screen

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It would be a nice option to have, but when you think about it, how often does it rain compared to it not raining? Also, the effect would be used for only a limited time during a flight - during takeoff, landing and taxi. Those phases really do make up a tiny portion of the majority of flights, thus making the use of computer resources and effects elsewhere more beneficial.

 

Dude try living in Europe for a bit! your lucky if it's not raining ;) the main reason why I moved abroad.

 

Just watched the ifly video and that's exactly wha I'm talking about. All the new FS9 jets have rain effects with working wipers and it adds a huge amount of immersion, it has nothing to do with compromising on system, just a ridiculous FSX limitation on animations.

 

Can anyone confirm if the ifly NG has rain effects?

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Dude try living in Europe for a bit! your lucky if it's not raining ;) the main reason why I moved abroad.

 

Exactly ha! I moved to Cali from London last August to do my training, our night time lows are England's day time highs! I don't need rain going over my windshield..

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