April 25, 201214 yr Bummer... http://www.anandtech.com/show/5763/undervolting-and-overclocking-on-ivy-bridge
April 25, 201214 yr Not sure why this is a bummer, it seems you can overclock to 4.6 with low voltage, am I reading that correctly. Mark. Mark CYYZ
April 25, 201214 yr Not sure why this is a bummer, it seems you can overclock to 4.6 with low voltage, am I reading that correctly. Mark. Maybe this is what Alain means? "This brings us to the good news and bad news. The good news is that at stock settings, we have a cool and quiet processor with a nice low power draw. The bad news is that it perhaps will not overclock as well as people think it should. Those wishing for 4.8GHz at 1.4 volts (similar to Sandy Bridge) will run into a lot of issues if they think that 1.4 volts is appropriate for Ivy Bridge. In comparison, you may end up with something more reasonable like 4.6GHz at 1.1 volts, or 4.8GHz at 1.2 volts (as per some boards I have tested). Then it will be a case of deciding whether the small IPC gains that Ivy brings will be worth 200 MHz less on your CPU compared to Sandy Bridge My recommendation is that if you run an overclocked Sandy Bridge system right now, do not jump to Ivy Bridge. You may be severely disappointed by the overclocking performance. Ultimately, Ivy Bridge hates voltage. Moving the CPU speed up is not so bad in the case of temperatures and system power draw. What you need is the lowest voltage for the overclock you want. So when you overclock, be methodical." Andrew Dixon"If common sense was compulsory everyone would have it but I am afraid this is not the case"
April 25, 201214 yr Author Yep! that's what I mean, as far as I can tell the only advantage the Ivy Bridge will give to FSX over the Sandy Bridge chip is the PCI-e 3.0 compatibility (assuming I'm right on the higher bandwith). I suspect the PCI-e 2.0 on high end computer (pushed to the max) is the bottleneck for FSX, we have to remember that FSX is not a game but a simulator, lets hope somebody here will soon get the first complete Ivy platform to test FSX and report back....
April 25, 201214 yr Hmm... so we need to compare Ivy with 4.6Ghz (without increasing voltage) and PCI-e3.0 and Sandy with 5.0Ghz (PCI-e 2.0) all other things remaining constant and see which of these two is good for FSX. Then we go for that specific config! Right? :) Based on this assumption " In comparison, you may end up with something more reasonable like 4.6GHz at 1.1 volts, or 4.8GHz at 1.2 volts (as per some boards I have tested). " Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
April 25, 201214 yr This indeed is disappointing. I am hoping that Intel will somehow manage to help this issue. - Although, they are already out so I doubt that we will see any 'fixes' coming from Intel at this point. I am crossing my fingers for Haswell or some miracle for these absurdly hot temperatures.
April 25, 201214 yr I feel like singing the Simpsons Blues song "If it were not for bad luck, we wouldn't have luck at all" LOL :) To move away from my Core 2 Duo 3.2Ghz I am thinking of doing a small PC upgrade... An i7 2700 + 8Gbmemory + 77 Motherboard. Thats it. would run me around $600 bucks for an upgrade. I would use my current 8800GTX for my 2 24" Dell monitors... I am ok with it. Spend the money on better cockpit stuff that I am working on. Manny Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
April 25, 201214 yr would use my current 8800GTX This will bottleneck your system. At least get a GTX560 or 560ti.
April 25, 201214 yr I'll wait until the 685. Then get that one.. until then I am sure it would take time for me to install all my addons that I have and get everything working etc..... One of the reason that I don't upgrade more often is not the cost of the MB, Memory and CPU... Its the hassle of reinstalling FSX and my addonds.. The thought of reinstall just makes me throw up. :Just Kidding: Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
April 25, 201214 yr I'll wait until the 685. Then get that one.. until then I am sure it would take time for me to install all my addons that I have and get everything working etc..... One of the reason that I don't upgrade more often is not the cost of the MB, Memory and CPU... Its the hassle of reinstalling FSX and my addonds.. The thought of reinstall just makes me throw up. :Just Kidding: You are not alone! :LMAO:
April 26, 201214 yr Lets hope this means 2500k prices drop. How much can you overclock the 2500k on air? Ivybridge motherboards are compatible with sandybridge chips right? So it means later down the track theres an easier upgrade path. Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering
April 26, 201214 yr Lets hope this means 2500k prices drop. How much can you overclock the 2500k on air? Ivybridge motherboards are compatible with sandybridge chips right? So it means later down the track theres an easier upgrade path. see my sig Mark CYYZ
April 26, 201214 yr see my sig I don't have a big case -- I have a Lian-Li case which can fit a micro-atx board; can you recommend any cooling solutions for that small space? Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering
April 26, 201214 yr Lets hope this means 2500k prices drop. Not going to happen. Older architecture processor retail prices have never gone down before (this applies pretty much to graphic cards also). Of course there might be a chance for single discounts here and there, but genreally no. You can see this easily with LGA1366 processors, which cost about the same now as the time they were discontinued. Also, I believe there are no problems for retailers to get their remaining K-Sandys sold after Ivy results.
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