I remember reading once that MS Flight was not going to have jets . . . .ever. At least that's how it was described.

 

I noticed an achievement for Mach 1 speed and another for flying at FL320. Hard as I've tried, can't make that happen in the stearman or icon.

 

 

 

 

Also, there is another achievement for landing a fixed wing aircraft backwards (it specifically says fixed wing, so maybe helicopters were on the horizon?). Has anyone actually done this?

 

 

I guess if you stalled in a strong enough headwind just above the runway you could make this happen? It does not specify that it has to be on a hard surface, so maybe trying it with the icon over water is the easiest way?

Jets: no one really knows. At first I thought we'd get them, but later I decided it wasn't gonna happen any time soon.

 

Mach1: you can get that in the free Red Tail Mustang by climbing high and diving at full power. You can get some altitude awards for that too, but not the Curvature of the Earth. That one is impossible, except with a hacked save file. The other Mach awards seem out of reach, as well as a bunch of passenger awards.

 

Landing a fixed wing backwards: exactly as you described. Better on a hard surface. Set Mixed Weather and to to Upolo on the north edge of the big Hawaii island for 68 knot winds.

 

Helicopters: if you look at the aircraft stats in the hangar, there are entries for rotor diameter and a few others. Orignally planned, obviously.

Mach1: you can get that in the free Red Tail Mustang by climbing high and diving at full power.

 

 

 

Oh. I was gonna ask something about the wings falling off when i first read that, then i remembered. . . . . . . . lol

 

 

thanks for the answers!

We may never know... Well I know, but im never telling. :P

I thought your NDA will expire in a year, right?

We may never know... Well I know, but im never telling. :P

 

Tease!

My intuition says yes. (on the jets)

I thought your NDA will expire in a year, right?

 

NDA's are 5-7 years.

NDA's are 5-7 years.

 

Let's go with 5-7 months, spill the beans, and call it a technicality... ^_^

 

Hey the project has been canned right, who really cares at Microsoft...

I'd have loved to see a helicopter, that's some of my favorite flying in FS9. They certainly had a lot of teasers to make you speculate about possible future development. The big international airports looked like they were set up for jets, but all the press seemed to suggest the emphasis was on GA type aircraft.

We may never know... Well I know, but im never telling. :P

 

Judging from your smile, I'm guessing yes!

I just saw a thread where the head of PMDG talked about being invited to sign on during the early development of Flight, and his reasons for not doing so. Makes one wonder what Flight might have been if some of those negotiations had gone differently. Maybe those big airports with gates and stuff were designed for a reason?

Makes one wonder what Flight might have been if some of those negotiations had gone differently

 

Here's one quantum scenario:

 

PMDG said yes; all their development for the next three years went into creating DLC for MSGS. We got no NGX and 777 from them.

 

FLIGHT ended up taking the same trajectory as it has now, because all along MS wanted a slice of the DLC pie but forgot to do their market research properly (at all?) and didn't find out quick enough (? guys, please! How long have you been making flight sims?) that plane games/flight sims of pretty much any flavour are, in the end, a niche market (however big)

 

All of the DLC created by PMDG (and, perhaps anyone else who entered into the same agreement) is locked away, with the code-base and SDK of the game, as Ray showed us, never to see the light of day...

 

In hindsight, I'd say Capt. Randazzo so called it right..Hats off, sir.. :clapping:

That is certainly one dismal way to look at it.

 

My thoughts centered on how different Flight might have been from what we ended up with. The Flight that was released was touted as an easily accessable sim/game for those intimidated by the "serious sims" that JH stated were inhibiting new people from entering flight sims. How would a complex systems transport jet have fit into that? Or was Flight originally intended to be something else? Just wondering.

Well if that had happened, it certainly would have softened the loud outcry against the program that tended to drown out any hint of a positive reception. For a while there, it literally became impossible to post appreciative comments about Flight that were not instantly buried under waves of vitriol, and In early days, some people signed into the Sim apparently just to slag it from the inside, until annoyed players (including me!) started booting them.

 

I can't say what influence this had on flights eventual fate, but it doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to see that the effects were unlikely to be positive. Worse, seeing that, I cant imagine any big player ever being masochistic enough to enter the marketplace anytime in the foreseeable future. If I was a CEO at a software company, and a suggestion appeared on my desk regarding entering the civilian Simulation market after this debacle, my reaction would be a bark of incredulous laughter.

 

It can be said in hindsight that the right call was made, but if the 3PD's had joined, how are we to know what trajectory events would have taken? No risk, no reward, and the best I can say at this juncture is that the status quo has been maintained.