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Weird Sky Texture in Low Visibility

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Hey guys, I have been playing around setting up some CAT II and CAT III approaches with the weather requirements to go with and I have been noticing that the sky looks god awful in those situations. Anytime the visibility is set to say anything less then 1 mile or so this happens.

 

Also as soon as I Climb/Descend out of the layer the sky textures return to what they should look like normally.

 

I have included two photos to show, one in the viz and with the problem showing, second, showing immediately out of the layer and sky returning to correct color.

 

This is the default weather controller in FSX, AS2012 was not launched during this process and REX was also disabled. I checked my sky themes as well in REX and everything checked out.

 

Any ideas guys?

 

 

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Thanks

Angelo Cosma
PPL ASEL / IFR
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 

Field Service Representative (SEA) ZSE ARTCC

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Where you flying at either dawn or dusk in the first shot? The reason I ask is because a long time ago I was using a particular sunset sky set from REX that looked good when visibility was5 miles or more, but when flying in visibility of a mile or less the fog/haze would look really orange like in your first pic. Switching sunset sky textures to something else cured the problem for me.

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It was taken at night around midnight, and I just changed my Dawn and Dusk textures to something else and the problem still persists.

Angelo Cosma
PPL ASEL / IFR
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 

Field Service Representative (SEA) ZSE ARTCC

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It was taken at night around midnight, and I just changed my Dawn and Dusk textures to something else and the problem still persists.

 

if you were flying at night then I dont know what would cause that. When I fly at night and in 1 mile or less, the color of my fog/haze is more of a grayish blue color, definitely not the orange color you posted a pic of.

 

The only other thing I could think that could influence that is if you were flying on a night with a full moon. I've noticed slight variations in night coloring between flying at night when the moon is out and when the moon is not out, being that the nights the moon is out, the sky is a little brighter. Not sure if that would influence the color of the fog though since I haven't really tested it.

 

Maybe someone else will chime in with a tip that can help.

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Are you using Shade or ENB by any chance? I've noticed they can cause some funny lighting issues sometimes.

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I am using shade, but for testing I do not run the program.

Angelo Cosma
PPL ASEL / IFR
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 

Field Service Representative (SEA) ZSE ARTCC

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I am using shade, but for testing I do not run the program.

 

Its shade, whether or not you run the program it still changes some things in FSX EVEN WHEN ITS NOT RUNNING. I had the same problem, reset the Shades settings to Default FSX and then run the program and see if it goes away.

Ron Hamilton

 

"95% is half the truth, but most of it is lies, but if you read half of what is written, you'll be okay." __ Honey Boo Boo's Mom

Actually I thought it was my shade doing this, and now I dont know, I thought I fixed it then I flew tonight and it looks like this, White Fog at night!!!!!!!!!!

Ron Hamilton

 

"95% is half the truth, but most of it is lies, but if you read half of what is written, you'll be okay." __ Honey Boo Boo's Mom

Its shade, whether or not you run the program it still changes some things in FSX EVEN WHEN ITS NOT RUNNING

 

 

It should only have an effect if loaded into FSX.

The program unloads once FSX is shutdown.

DIMITRI

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It should only have an effect if loaded into FSX.

The program unloads once FSX is shutdown.

 

I know its shade because when I change something it shows up in the sim, I know something is different even when I dont use shade, it defently makes my fog look white at night and I dont know how to fix it, I've tried everything!

Ron Hamilton

 

"95% is half the truth, but most of it is lies, but if you read half of what is written, you'll be okay." __ Honey Boo Boo's Mom

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Any update? I am still at a loss.

Angelo Cosma
PPL ASEL / IFR
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 

Field Service Representative (SEA) ZSE ARTCC

Intel i7 6700K 4.8Ghz / ASUS ROG Maximus Hero VIII / 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz Ram / EVGA 1080Ti FTW3/ Corsair H110i GTX EVGA 850 Watt Gold / Samsung 850 500gb SSD

Well I would say that your first shot is close to the ground? Short finals? Here in the UK our Sodium street lights would probably cast a Reddish Orange glow through any haze. In fact here in London on hazy nights and even on a less hazy but dense low cloud cover the street lighting is reflected from the cloud base and causes such a glow. However if this persists even at altitude I'd say you've definitely got an issue.

 

Geoff

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-vapor_lamp

Geoff Brown

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Oh no, I meant I agree with the consensus it appears that Shade is the problem. I meant who successfully reverted back and solved the issue. I am unsure how to undo what shade did.

Angelo Cosma
PPL ASEL / IFR
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 

Field Service Representative (SEA) ZSE ARTCC

Intel i7 6700K 4.8Ghz / ASUS ROG Maximus Hero VIII / 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz Ram / EVGA 1080Ti FTW3/ Corsair H110i GTX EVGA 850 Watt Gold / Samsung 850 500gb SSD

Hi dont know if this will help but i used to get blue fog instead of the standard white fog, since i got rex thought it was rex themnes etc, but it wasnt found out i had dx10 selected in my fsx settings as soon as i unchecked it everything went back to normal got my white fog back again

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Peter kelberg

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Any ideas, bump.

Angelo Cosma
PPL ASEL / IFR
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 

Field Service Representative (SEA) ZSE ARTCC

Intel i7 6700K 4.8Ghz / ASUS ROG Maximus Hero VIII / 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz Ram / EVGA 1080Ti FTW3/ Corsair H110i GTX EVGA 850 Watt Gold / Samsung 850 500gb SSD

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