Ok, I understand this might be a bit loaded, but I'm trying to figure out the benefits of an IB processor over the SB-E. This is not neccessarily FS only related.

 

From what I see the new IB processors give you better PCie lane support and overclockability?

 

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Here's the 2 builds:

 

The 1st build allows for quad channel memory where the 2nd one does not. I left out the graphics options as I'm still reconsidering ATI. The problem is the 9000 series which are upcoming just teases me. The problem with ATI is that the drivers make playing anything almost impossible due to constant black screens, so I may just switch to Nvidea and hope for the best...lol. Especially for FSX. I'm getting really tired of having to constantly restart games just to get them stable again.

• Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K
  
• MSI Big Bang-XPower II LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 XL ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
  

OR

• 2. Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K.
  
• MSI Z77 MPOWER LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
  

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

2. Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K.

MSI Z77 MPOWER LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

 

Go with this one. LGA2011 is complete overkill....

Ben,

 

Thanks for that. Yes you would think the 2011 is overkill. Funny you say that, being the IBs are newer...hehe. Part of my dilema is why it would be overkill when the IBs are newer.

 

I'm also assuming money no issue, etc. Just stock for stock.

If money were no object, I'd get the 3930K and overclock it as high as it'll go. I would also get some decent cooling, be that real watercooling or even a step further. But that's me: I like extremes. I am not scared of pushing 1.56V into my 2600K to have stable 5.0.

So it all depends on what you are ready to risk. Besides, you can get the extended warranty from Intel, so you have your extreme overclocking secured too!

IMHO, FSX is more going to benefit from high overclocked 3930K + 6 cores more than from 3770K. Only if you are ready to de-lid the 3770K, lap it, put the coollaboratory liquid on it instead the paste, then get some extreme cooling, you will get slightly lower clocks out of it, but IB will make it up with the slightly higher IPC.

 

I personally would get the 3930K, and not the IB... but, that's me.

 

Thanks for that. Yes you would think the 2011 is overkill. Funny you say that, being the IBs are newer...hehe. Part of my dilema is why it would be overkill when the IBs are newer.

 

It wouldn't be overkill if you're running multi-threaded software... and/or doing a lot of video encoding/working with Adobe PS etc etc.

 

But for FSX I agree it is. I'd go for the 3570K with a nice aftermarket hsf (Corsair H80/100 or Noctua DH14 etc)

Thanks guys.

 

Yeah a sealed Antec Kuhler is on the list...prob ones for the GPUs as well. I used to have a Koolance setup on my old build. Too much trouble for the new one...lol. I do use Adobe as well as other apps that could benefit....which is another reason I've stuck with ATI also. Prob still gonna switch to Nvidea though.

 

So basically the IBs are only new for the mid level segment other then better PCi lane support maybe, which is probably not that big of a deal unless I want to quad SLI/X-Fire. I'm thinking a dual GPU single card would be the way to go, beacuse in most cases X-fire doesn't even work properly for most games and apps.

 

Appreciate the comments.

Thanks guys.

 

So basically the IBs are only new for the mid level segment other then better PCi lane support maybe, which is probably not that big of a deal unless I want to quad SLI/X-Fire. I'm thinking a dual GPU single card would be the way to go, beacuse in most cases X-fire doesn't even work properly for most games and apps.

 

Appreciate the comments.

 

Dual GPU does nothing for FSX..

Agree with Bert... the best nvidia card for FSX right now is the GTX680:

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130768

 

I'm sometimes in the same boat as you, Jeff - I like to enjoy other games, Battlefield 3, for instance that makes use of xfire/SLI.... but my 570 holds out very well.

Why is a 3930K a poor choice?

 

- more threads for texture loaders, FSX *is* using them

- quad channel memory (not a huge plus, but a plus nevertheless)

- higher binned most probably, so better chance of reaching some really high clocks

 

But any IB is also good, though you should de-lid in that case.

Word Not Allowed: you mean the 3770?

 

I'm aware of the graphics card issue with FSX...the problem is I use other apps and games.

I mean the CPU: 3930K.

 

So why is ATI better than Nvidia in other games?

I mean the CPU: 3930K.

 

So why is ATI better than Nvidia in other games?

 

So far as I can tell it's not...LOL. That's one of my problems. I've heard the plus with ATI cards is more when it comes to video rendering although I can't imagine Nvidia being that far behind, if at all.

OK, can't help you in that area, not my specialty. :wink:

would like to test a SB-E , my friend have promised me to let me test his bench parts in

my SS an let me have the parts a couple of weeks.

MSI X79 ?? . Mems?? , CPU 3960X and my 680 to run FSmark11

 

I Report back when it happens

 

Hasse

Well, speaking of SB processors....here's the new SB 3970-X on guru3d: http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/intel_core_i7_3970x.html