http://money.cnn.com/services/tickerheadli...30032.21420.htmCessna Aircraft Goes With 'Garmin® Glass' for the Popular Skyhawk July 27, 2004: 1:15 p.m. ESTOSHKOSH, Wis. (PRNewswire) - OSHKOSH, Wis., July 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. , today at the EAA's 2004 AirVenture announced that Cessna Aircraft Company has selected Garmin's G1000 integrated avionics system as standard equipment for the 2005 Cessna 172R Skyhawk GA and as the premium avionics option for the 2005 172S Skyhawk SP."The G1000 is tailored to fit the needs of a wide range of owner-flown aircraft -- from the exciting Citation Mustang to the celebrated Skyhawk," said Gary Kelley, Garmin's director of marketing. "One of the most compelling aspects of the G1000-equipped Skyhawk is that generations of pilots will use it as a recreational and flight-training platform and will learn to view their airborne environment through the flat-panel displays of the G1000 -- the first truly integrated, all-glass cockpit for this class of aircraft."The G1000 system integrates all primary flight, navigation, communication, terrain, traffic, weather, and engine sensor data on two 10.4-inch, high- definition LCDs in the Cessna Skyhawk. Featuring XGA (1,024x768-pixel) resolution, these active-matrix displays are capable of presenting data in brilliant, sunlight-readable color at wide viewing angles. The following G1000 system components will be available on both models of the Skyhawk:

get a dictionary instead and look up the difference between "to need" and "to want".Does look like a nice GPS system.

While some think that G1000 is the best available cockpit for a GA aircraft I changed my mind when I looked at other options. For example I think that Chelton's SVHITS is a more advanced system. Also, if someone is building an experimental aircraft where you have more freedom in selection of avionics - Blue Mountain Avionics package certainly represents the best solution for the money.Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg

Chelton's SV/HITSFunny isn't it: that's actually beginning to look like an early 3D flight sim!http://www.cheltonflightsystems.com/symbology.htmBest, Martijn

>get a dictionary instead and look up the difference between>"to need" and "to want".Thanks for that helpful comment :-roll

>Funny isn't it: that's actually beginning to look like an>early 3D flight sim!Indeed - it does !. And according to NASA and other reserach centers SV/HITS offers best situational awarness for pilots. I hope Garmin/others will wake up one day and offer it on say G1000.Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg

"Funny isn't it: that's actually beginning to look like an early 3D flight sim!"Yeah, and the EFIS doesn't fade out due to weather ;)Actually, I'm gonna look into whether or not this is a public company. Looks like good tech.Andrew

>While some think that G1000 is the best available cockpit for>a GA aircraft I changed my mind when I looked at other>options. For example I think that Chelton's SVHITS is a more>advanced system. Also, if someone is building an experimental>aircraft where you have more freedom in selection of avionics>- Blue Mountain Avionics package certainly represents the best>solution for the money.>After the oppertunity of playing with the Garmin 1000 system in a new Cessna 182 Skylane, I also checked out Chelton's system........... although I havn't personally seen one. But I've seen many other systems, especially in homebuilts that are about the same size screen as Chelton's, and I really prefer the larger screen area of the Garmin.The Garmin screens are large enough to allow multiple screens such as the GPS from the right hand screen to be placed in a smaller format on the pilots main screen, while easily allowing all the other information.L.Adamson

I guess there are more than the screen to make the G1000 an interesting avionics: it is not a PFD, or a MFD, but a fully integrated suite of avionics. That means to my limited understanding that not only it is a PFD for example, but the solution also includes an air data computer, a GPS, necessary connectivity to any sensor in the aircraft for fuel, vaccum etc...Sure the Chelton is innovative in the display department, but I guess the G1000 is mroe innovative in the retrofit department...Hope this helps!

"get a dictionary instead and look up the difference between "to need" and "to want".???Don't need a dictionary to know the definition of an @SS H@L3. We got it right here.:)

BTW if you've ever seen them demo at a trade show they use FS to drive their unit. They project the FS view on a big screen in front of a mock cockpit while their display keeps track.

Jeroen is well known for this kind of helpful comment..get used to it.Eric

I went to a seminar on the G1000 a few days ago at Oshkosh that was presented by Cessna. A great panel-but amoung a few other things that I found interesting was that Cessna encourages and recommends using the autopilot almost from takeoff to landing. They said 5 out of 6 hours of training at Cessna will be on autopilot. (A few very good questions were asked-such as the vsi doesn't start indicating until <>150 fpm-a question was asked about holding straight and level manually if one doesn't get small indications until 150 fpm either direction is indicated- I don't think they answered that one. There were also questions about using terrain awareness being provided by the gps altitude-which I believe on this unit is now not waas enabled and therefore could be off several 100 ft.)I found myself thinking what a great innovation in safety this system is-but also thinking sadly that GA flying in the future may be not much different than commercial airliners-the pilot being a primarily a systems manager and doing very little flying. Of course as GA flyers we will have the option of choosing-but I wonder if some of us who learned on steam gauges may find ourselves missing those challenging days at some point...http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

Larry,Somehow the size of the screen doesn't impress me.What I am looking for in avionics suite is the lowest "fear" factor - when I find myself under highest stress and most sweating I am looking for solution that would put me at "ease" so to speak. There is nothing (my opinion, as well as NASA's) out there that delivers this sort of immediate relief from stress as a single glance at your (not too big) Synthetic Vision - Highway in the Sky. I read everything that I could get my hands on about Chelton's suite and I was left speachless. FAA must agree too because Chelton's suite is automatically approved in all aircraft types for immediate installation. No paperwork required. By the way, Bronson's Global Flyer's project (single pilot - flight around the globe with no refueling) picked Chelton SV-HITS for their aircraft.Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg

Yes indeed, yes indeed.