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Delidding gone wrong..

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It's all over the web Rob.

 

Ok thanks Dazz... I don't remember mine getting nearly that hot. My non-delid ivy @ 4.8 max is 88°C on 10xLinpack... but that with a/c cooling... I did not do any lesser GHz testing on just room temp.

 

And based on Idontcare's work and what he posted at anandtech, I do not believe the tim is responsible for the higher temps.

 

De-lid and you can push your chip another 200-300MHz with much lower temps as well.

 

Been there done that @ 4.8 / 4.9 max 78°C 10xLinpack (iirc room temp) 1.350v

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but you did test the chip in your mobo before beginning the delidding exercise, right?

 

Like an idiot, I didn't test it first. It occured to me to do so, but with the success rate I have had with all my computer builds (going back to the early 80's), hacking and modding of other devices I figured it would work out of the box. Bit me in the shorts as they say.

 

Ok thanks Dazz... I don't remember mine getting nearly that hot. My non-delid ivy @ 4.8 max is 88°C on 10xLinpack... but that with a/c cooling... I did not do any lesser GHz testing on just room temp.

 

And based on Idontcare's work and what he posted at anandtech, I do not believe the tim is responsible for the higher temps.

 

 

 

Been there done that @ 4.8 / 4.9 max 78°C 10xLinpack (iirc room temp) 1.350v

 

1.35V is the lowest I've seen for those clocks. I need 1.5V for 4.9 and my temps are virtually identical. That should be all the evidence you need that de-lidding works. If not, go bump your chip up to 1.5V and let me know how many seconds it takes to hit 105.

I need 1.5V for 4.9 and my temps are virtually identical.

 

De-lid vs. another one non de-lid... volts say 1.368 (and 1.248v on the 2nd)... dunno why as I set 1.350v in bios (what I got from ASUS AI Suite).

 

I don't see the purpose in volting to 1.5v unless just to see how quick to ramp up to (much) higher temps. Plenty happy to take your word for it. :)

 

 

 

 

 

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Like an idiot, I didn't test it first. It occured to me to do so, but with the success rate I have had with all my computer builds (going back to the early 80's), hacking and modding of other devices I figured it would work out of the box. Bit me in the shorts as they say.

Oh dear! It is quite possible that the chip was duff to begin with and the delidding made no difference at all. That was an expensive lesson, to be sure.

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I just educated myself on deliding and all I have to say is you guys are crazy.

I overclocked my i7 950 to 4 GHz with a noctua cooler and in my head that was semi dangerous due to the risk of frying the chip.

 

Peeling off parts of the CPU just for a few degrees less of heat?

Crazy.

 

 

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I just educated myself on deliding and all I have to say is you guys are crazy.

I overclocked my i7 950 to 4 GHz with a noctua cooler and in my head that was semi dangerous due to the risk of frying the chip.

 

Peeling off parts of the CPU just for a few degrees less of heat?

Crazy.

 

 

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20C temp drop while OCing to 5.0Ghz with HT OFF sure is crazy. Crazy not to do it.

 

@Ozzie, what were you saying about your delidding experience? LOL

 

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20C temp drop while OCing to 5.0Ghz with HT OFF sure is crazy. Crazy not to do it.

 

@Ozzie, what were you saying about your delidding experience? LOL

 

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If the CPU uses TIM for the IHS then it's less crazy. But if ppl are peeling off a soldered IHS, yeah that's crazy.

High chance of killing the chip. Just not worth the risk.

 

 

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If the CPU uses TIM for the IHS then it's less crazy. But if ppl are peeling off a soldered IHS, yeah that's crazy.

High chance of killing the chip. Just not worth the risk.

 

 

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Who said they were peeling off a soldered IHS?

 

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Who said they were peeling off a soldered IHS?

 

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I said "if" people are.

 

 

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I said "if" people are.

 

 

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Oh ok, I was like what?? It's never been even brought up about delidding a soldered IHS.

 

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No one is de-lidding soldered IHS', you'd have to heat the chip up in a frying pan with oil to pop the lid off.

 

Ozzie: you've got some primo chips there man, all 4 chips I've personally de-lidded and overclocked need volts well in excess of 1.4 for anything even approaching those speeds. One thing I notice though is 10 degrees C lower temps on your de-lidded chip even using 1.35V vs. 1.25V, reinforcing my point all the more.

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No one is de-lidding soldered IHS', you'd have to heat the chip up in a frying pan with oil to pop the lid off.

 

Make sure you use Olive or Canola oil... I would also throw in some french fries and a few hot wings...

 

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Ozzie: you've got some primo chips there man, all 4 chips I've personally de-lidded and overclocked need volts well in excess of 1.4 for anything even approaching those speeds.

 

This is why I was asking you before... not to put you on the spot... it just did not make sense to me with what I have experienced.

 

I did one 10x run @ 4.9 (pic does not have cpu-z, just temps - only the filename refers to the 4.9) and temps almost identical to the 2nd pic (same bios settings iirc) - 78/88/87/82 - But this is where I felt I was pushing the chip a bit too hard.

 

 

@Ozzie, what were you saying about your delidding experience? LOL

 

It went fine!... just fine! :t0104:

 

 

Make sure you use Olive or Canola oil... I would also throw in some french fries and a few hot wings...

 

I prefer a propane torch... heat the IHS until a dark cherry red and it pops right off. Then replace with just a snip of Oatey plumbing solder (again heating until a dark cherry red) and you're back in business.

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