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I'm getting CS-777 and FlyTampa-Dubai

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The Boeing 777-300 is one of my favorite a/c. I love the way it looks and flies- powerful! And, I also have an admiration for Dubai- for it's beauty! So, I am thinking of getting these 2 products today.

 

Question: I understand CS-777 may not be the best a/c we've seen, but since I would like to fly this a/c I am thinking of getting it. (Don't know when PMDG will release theirs). So, for those of you who love the 777, could you tell us what's wrong with CS-777? (Or what's important, that does not work?)

 

Thanks,

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I found the CS777 is so, so, SO frustrating. Auto throttle ALWAYS just blasted waaaaay through anything set.

 

LNAV would SOMETIMES work.

 

VNAV would NEVER work.

 

These are just my experiences with it. I understand that a few didn't have the same issues.

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bought cs-777-200 and 300 for around 80 Euros 2 weeks ago.

 

No landing gear, and no systems working, basically cant use it.

 

I would not advice it unless you can demo it first, else the least of your issues will be waste of money, but waste of time.

 

CS display the reputation of a company that will not give a dan about customers till they have no more customers.

 

Cs-777 is Definatly not a buy, unless you can demo for free

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VNAV.

 

Have to settle for FLCH for now until they get it sorted. As for the landing gear issues, only a few people have had problems. Personally, I haven't had this problem since the EARLY version(s) of the CS 777.

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bought cs-777-200 and 300 for around 80 Euros 2 weeks ago.

80 Euro?!

 

For this garbage? OMG! :O

 

Heard it isn't very good...So glad I stuck to my instincts!

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VNAV will soon be fixed in an update, but:

 

Systems/displays/FMC are not yet completed.

 

CS might turn away from finishing the product.

 

This product will never live up to the 60 Euro-standards.

 

There's an interesting thread here on avsim.com over in the FSX/General forum.

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my thoughts offered

 

I have CS777 and overall great a few minor software fixes required. I like PMDG as well as a beautiful product. I like iFLY again different aspects

 

FlyTampa is the best period.

 

I will probably buy the PMDG 777 when it arrives but I think it could be another year.

 

so enjoy the CS777

 

I do like CS767 and the CS757

 

I even have LevelD767

 

it is sort of an evolution !

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Here we go again with the CS-777.

 

I take off manually and when the flaps are raised I re-enter the cruise altitude in the CDU.

Now I can climb, cruise and descent with VNAV.

 

The Localizer and ILS are being captured perfectly and I land spot on.

 

I also have done many flights with the CS 757 and 767 and never had issues like some describe.

 

Since 2,5 years I have the same installation of Windows and FSX.

My system is stable like a rock.

 

Especially CS needs a stable system.

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With CS products, the people who don't really know the systems never seem to have problems. Instead of buying CS just get the Posky 777 and add one of the freeware panels or the ISG gauges.

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Several posts and very little help. I would like transparent feedback- not rants such as "Oh this is not a PMDG." "The nose doesn't look like PMDG, etc,,etc,"

 

-- What I need is sound feedback.. What is wrong with the landing gear? :angry:

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80 Euro?!

 

For this garbage? OMG! :O

 

Heard it isn't very good...So glad I stuck to my instincts!

80 Euro?!

 

For this garbage? OMG! :O

 

Heard it isn't very good...So glad I stuck to my instincts!

 

Could you please explain why you consider this to be "a Garbage?" Please elaborate. Tell us what is wrong with this a/c? I can tell that you- just as myself and many more--, are eagerly waiting for the PMDG. But, please try to keep your mind away from PMDG for a moment, and focus on the CS-777 and provide a sound feedback.

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-- What I need is sound feedback.. What is wrong with the landing gear? :angry:

 

Landing gear works fine for me (on my system at least). It's just the VNAV is the main problem.

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Could you please explain why you consider this to be "a Garbage?" Please elaborate. Tell us what is wrong with this a/c? I can tell that you- just as myself and many more--, are eagerly waiting for the PMDG. But, please try to keep your mind away from PMDG for a moment, and focus on the CS-777 and provide a sound feedback.

I didn't mean "Garbage" as in "Garbage", just Garbage as in Garbage...

 

I'm not a fan of CS haven't been since I wasted allot of money on the "un-flyable" 767 & 757. They are good for visuals, but not for in-depth system's etc...From what I have read and also seen I am calling this "Garbage" as I would with a few other products that CS have released because...It just doesn't feature what is advertised.

 

Ok, it has a good looking model, and the usual CS style service doors/maintenance doors etc...the cabin has doors that open and close, but it doesn't feature what should be in the aircraft "Systems". Its faulty and has been since release. A year ago?

 

I don't want this turning into some argument that will never resolve, I'm just expressing how I feel about the CS 777 and I don't want my opinion to conflict with others opinions and cause Avsim style WW3.

 

Maybe we are spoilt with having PMDG developing such great visuals as well as "true to life systems" and that has shown us just how BASIC (CS) etc are...No offence to CS...Just saying...

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-- What I need is sound feedback.. What is wrong with the landing gear? :angry:

 

The landing gear on CS aircraft is disabled if the product isn't properly unlocked, so people that have trouble with the registration scheme are often complaining about the lack of landing gear.

 

It's a problem, but one that is usually easily solvable if you sit and patiently work through the problem (usually it's something simple, in this case with the 777 it's usually that the 0.9 or earlier version was NOT uninstalled before installing the 1.0 version, as the installation notes for 1.0 are clear you must do)

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there is nothing wrong with the landing gear missing issue

 

you must turn off all anti-virus on the download

 

you must have admin control of all files

 

and you must have a real license key

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You're the man! Share the pain (I meant PLANE, really I did!).

 

Now where did I put that "Horse to Water" graphic? lol

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Several posts and very little help. I would like transparent feedback- not rants such as "Oh this is not a PMDG." "The nose doesn't look like PMDG, etc,,etc,"

 

-- What I need is sound feedback.. What is wrong with the landing gear? :angry:

I've owned the CS777 since the release of the base model. I have only seen the landing gear disappear once and that was in a very early version. It is related to the anti-piracy system that CS uses. Be sure to uninstall each version completely before installing the new one. Also, there is a Manual Offline Activation that some people use. Obviously if your version is pirated then you should expect to find the gear missing.

 

I would consider the current CS777 to be 1.0 Beta. There is a long list of minor issues and one or two major ones such as the VNAV. CS has a list of bugs on their site so you can see what they know about and what they are working on. You can program the LNAV, set up different loads with the ACE, fly long hauls and instrument approaches. I recommend climbing and descending on FLCH and cruising with A/T until VNAV is fixed in the next release.

 

If you want to wait for PMDG as some have suggested here, then by all means do so. They tend to have very complete aircraft at release. But you'll have to learn to wait patiently as others are doing. For now CS is the only native FSX 777 available.

 

Ben

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Several posts and very little help. I would like transparent feedback- not rants such as "Oh this is not a PMDG." "The nose doesn't look like PMDG, etc,,etc,"

 

-- What I need is sound feedback.. What is wrong with the landing gear? :angry:

 

The L/G is an activation issue. Tricky with CS, but you can get it working.

 

The real issues are:

- CS 777 is being advertised as nearly finished (except for the WX radar and the terrain radar) - fact is, it's much more incomplete in v1.0

- VNAV isn't working yet. You can get the CS 777 to climb with VNAV engaged but it wouldn't adhere to speed restrictions: It would climb at max crz speed even under 10k

- EICAS messages are not completed yet.

- ECL isn't completed yet (closed loop items not implemented for L/G, flaps, spoilers etc.)

- ND isn't completed yet (TCAS missing, lots of ARP and STA missing)

- PFD isn't completed: speed marks missing, barber pole wrong, bug in LOC indication

- CDU/FMS isn't completed: ALTN page not functional, bugs in T/D, in adding arrivals to the last flight plan leg

 

That's what I found out myself. For sure this list can be continued ...

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The Boeing 777-300 is one of my favorite a/c. I love the way it looks and flies- powerful! And, I also have an admiration for Dubai- for it's beauty! So, I am thinking of getting these 2 products today.

 

Question: I understand CS-777 may not be the best a/c we've seen, but since I would like to fly this a/c I am thinking of getting it. (Don't know when PMDG will release theirs). So, for those of you who love the 777, could you tell us what's wrong with CS-777? (Or what's important, that does not work?)

 

Thanks,

 

CS-777: Please learn from other's mistakes... Hold your breath and wait.

BK

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And if you can't hold your breath:

 

Go back to FS9.1. There's a complete and free-of-major-bugs 777 around (don't forget about those 2 SP's after their v1.0 DVD RTM - they fix some minor and medium-sized issues and add the TCAS RAs to the RTM state).

 

Never mind the graphics, never mind the missing widescreen support. At least it's rather complete, systems are quite well modelled, FMC has same abilities.

 

And have a look at v1.0 on the DVD, before installing the SP's: It's amazingly complete, regarding a v1.0 was brought to the market. A few big issues in the flight model and the automated flight, but no show-stopper.

 

I wish, today's v1.0's, no matter who's the developer, would be so good ...

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-- CS 777: Well, as much as I love the Boeing 777-300 (not the 200 or smaller), and as much as I would like to support CS, I must agree that after completing my research, I will NOT purchase CS 777...It has too many negatives. If, I were to want a "toy" or a "semi-useless" 777, I can easily go with the Posky 777-- FOR FREE! So, I'll wait for Randy's 777..Don't think I'll regret it.

 

-- FlyTampa Dubai: Uhhhh, ask me again. Definitely my second best airport (after Hong Kong's KAITAk ....Lovely...Worth every dollar and more!

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What about this one?:

 

http://www.aerosim.c..._e/fs_fsx_e.htm

I had forgotten about the FSX-native Aerosim 777. However, I don't believe that people waiting for the level of detail in the PMDG and CS are going to go for Aerosim, as it seems to be a "lite" version of the 777. Also it only includes the -200 in the PW variant. My reason for getting the 777 is the -200LR version with the GE engines. So I'm not even going to consider the Aerosim for my own purposes.

 

Ben

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