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Captain Robert, my soon pictured on the attached is at the controls of the Air New Zealand All-blacks ZK-OKQ so does this qualify him for Beta testing, assuming this is still on your "to do" list!!!

And on a slightly more serious note will licensing allow me to install 777x on more than one PC that I own as he also can't wait to get his hands on your latest masterpiece when it releases?

 

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Haha awesome photo! ANZ crew are the most friendliest I've come across yet - extremely welcoming. I think that shows in this photo..

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Haha awesome photo! ANZ crew are the most friendliest I've come across yet - extremely welcoming. I think that shows in this photo..

 

Yes couldn't agree more - all we asked was for a quick visit after landing at LAX and were in there for a while! Thank you ANZ.

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Yes couldn't agree more - all we asked was for a quick visit after landing at LAX and were in there for a while! Thank you ANZ.

 

An object lesson to other airlines that access to the flight deck should not necssarily have to be a 'we-have-to-follow-the security-rules-to-the-letter'. Nice one,ANZ.

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While I understand your sentiment, you should know that security violations are met with disciplinary action and monetary fines for the airlines and employees involved. What you and I don't think it's a big deal, TSA does and they won't hesitate to lay the smack down.

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While I understand your sentiment, you should know that security violations are met with disciplinary action and monetary fines for the airlines and employees involved. What you and I don't think it's a big deal, TSA does and they won't hesitate to lay the smack down.

Anyone with experience of the TSA at security will know just how welcoming and friendly they are. Maybe they could learn something from ANZ. The rules are to prevent in flightdeck visits. Pre flight or post flight access really isn't the same at all. They should apply the spirit of the law, not the letter of the law.

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That and as far as i can tell the usa is the only country that bared all access during flight here in canada its still allowed, i jump seated on a canadian north flight a few weeks ago.

 

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Kevin, I understand what you are saying and for the most part agree with you. That being said, the events if 9/11/2001 cast a very large shadow in this country. I get to deal with TSA on a daily basis so I know how thing are done. They don't allow much leeway on anything.

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Haha awesome photo! ANZ crew are the most friendliest I've come across yet - extremely welcoming. I think that shows in this photo..

Lufthansa has some very friendly flightcrews too, I was allowed to enter the flightdeck, take pictures and chat with the pilots on each of my flights with them.

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And United are also very friendly, invited my son into the flight deck for a quick visit recently at Las Vegas on boarding - we didn't even have to ask!

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Milwick, i aso agree with you. Just makes so very glad to live up here, i know of a few guys that use their ppl as photo id when checking in at the gate and they usually get to board first and chat with the pilots

 

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The TSA are with no doubt the rudest airport security staff I've ever come across. SHAME ON YOU TSA!! :mad:

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American doesn't mind either,

I've been up to the flight deck numerous times, before and after flight.

Then I worked on the ramp last year for job attachment and we were allowed inside Amerijet's 727, American's 737 and 757, and British's 777. Wonderful experience

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While I understand your sentiment, you should know that security violations are met with disciplinary action and monetary fines for the airlines and employees involved. What you and I don't think it's a big deal, TSA does and they won't hesitate to lay the smack down.

 

If the airplane is sitting at the gate there is no security violation, in fact most American Airlines pilots have no issues with letting kids in and si in the Captain's seat and I see this as a common occurance at O'Hare. Plus if you are lucky enough to be flying a foreign carrier in foreign airspace then TSA/FAA rules do not apply.

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Kevin, I understand what you are saying and for the most part agree with you. That being said, the events if 9/11/2001 cast a very large shadow in this country. I get to deal with TSA on a daily basis so I know how thing are done. They don't allow much leeway on anything.

I fully understand the shadow 9/11 cast but if you continue to live under that shadow 11 years on the terrorists have won. Security is vital, but it needs to be done with intelligence, not blanket prohibitions. I have no problem with locked doors in flight, but there is absolutely no security reason why a pilot should not allow a child access to the cockpit at the gate. After all every person on board has already been screened by the TSA. If they've done they're job properly there is no risk.

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Air France crew are very friendly also. I asked if I could see the flight-deck after our flight from Paris to London back in 2010. At the time it was the A380, as Air France were doing training flights for the crew.

 

Without hesitation they let me into the flight deck to take a few pictures etc...I've been in a quite a few flight-decks of various aircraft in my life, but the A380's flight-deck is just stunning! B)

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Kevin,

I'm not sure that there's any prohibition of cockpit access while at the gate. I don't believe there is. A lot of time it has to do with expediency. In the airline business, on time performance is king.Trust me. Cockpit cres are like anyone else, some of them are really good people and some of them a pure jackasses. TSA? No comment.

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I fully understand the shadow 9/11 cast but if you continue to live under that shadow 11 years on the terrorists have won. Security is vital, but it needs to be done with intelligence, not blanket prohibitions. I have no problem with locked doors in flight, but there is absolutely no security reason why a pilot should not allow a child access to the cockpit at the gate. After all every person on board has already been screened by the TSA. If they've done they're job properly there is no risk.

 

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I'm not sure that there's any prohibition of cockpit access while at the gate. I don't believe there is. A lot of time it has to do with expediency. In the airline business, on time performance is king.Trust me. Cockpit cres are like anyone else, some of them are really good people and some of them a pure jackasses. TSA? No comment.

 

So with all due respect what was the purpose of the original point you were trying to make?

 

While I understand your sentiment, you should know that security violations are met with disciplinary action and monetary fines for the airlines and employees involved. What you and I don't think it's a big deal, TSA does and they won't hesitate to lay the smack down.

 

The OP has posted a picture of a child (in all probability his son) sat on a seat on the flight deck of a commercial aircraft whilst said aircraft was clearly parked at a gate & shut down...it also looks like the flight crew had some fun with a some items of flight crew apparel....probably all at KLAX.

 

I am sure at least one flightdeck crew member was present & I am positive that either the aircraft commander him/herself or at least a member of the flight crew gave consent before entry to the flight deck was granted.

 

Nothing for TSA (or anybody else) to worry about for that matter.

 

Sadly the humour - well at least in the OP there was some - has now been snuffed out...another thread bites the dust.

 

To the OP - I am sure your son had an experience he will remember for a lifetime...must have been great for him!

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There was that a comment was made earlier in the thread about not following security rules to the letter. My point is, for those of us who work in the industry, looking the other way is not an option. One of my co-workers was hit with a violation about a month ago. It cost him a seven day suspension and a $750 fine. That money came out of his pocket.Another violation and it may well cost him his job. Somehow, this conversation turned into something about cockpit access while at the gate. My intention was not to ruin anyone's fun. My guess is that the OP's son will remember that experience for a long time.

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