April 16, 201313 yr Author =D I will surely let you all know what the problem is. And hopefully all your advice will help someone with this problem.Thank you allP.SSupport came back to me, they say maybe have to get me a USB card....
April 19, 201313 yr Author Hi eveyone. Well I got me a new yoke, and the same problem. I think power problem or usb problem.What I saw is that one of the yoke hub failed to install correctly, which might be a power problem. . =D
April 19, 201313 yr Moderator Hi Johann, In that case it must be a problem with the PC. It is clearly faulty as you tried the yoke in several USB ports and none worked properly. Hopefully the store wil exchange it for another model. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 19, 201313 yr I personally believe it's one of these issues:1. A Saitek/Windows 7 driver issue or conflict.2. A Windows 7 setting.The fact that Saitek has issued this statement about your yoke going to sleep indicates a Windows 7/Saitek issue somewhere.You said other USB devices don't fall asleep. If I was in your position before doing anything, to eliminate hardware I'd do this:1. Make a image of your current Windows 7 HDD.2. Install Windows XP and then FS2004 and test your Saitek under windows XP. Your mother board supports XP.If you have no more issues under XP, you know your hardware is ok. That said, your BIOS (considered "hardware") could still be a issue under WIndows 7. I understand that installing Windows XP might not be an option for you. You can download free boot CD;s like knoppix or Ultimate Boot CD for Windows, or FalconFour's Ultimate Bootable CD but I suspect for this issue, they will be of little benefit. RJ
April 20, 201313 yr Try this to eliminate faulty hardware.1. Download Knoppix (which is an iso image) from here.2. Burn ISO to CD.3. Boot Knoppix. During boot, from the options list, select: 11. Graphical Programs, then "Startlxde - Full X Session" 4. In Knoppix click window menu (lower left icon, where the start button is in Windows 7 or XP)5. Click "System tools" then "System profiler and benchmark".6. On the left window pane locate "USB Devices" and click.7. Hopefully your yoke should shows up.8. On the Right window pane click and highlight your Saitek yoke. It should show the USB version, Speed and Max current etc.9. Let sit for 10-30 minutes. It refreshes every 5 seconds or so.10. If after 30 minutes your Saitek yoke is still there, you're USB ports are not dropping power and are working fine. To shut down Knoppix, click window menu (lower left icon, where the start button is in Windows 7 or XP) and click on "logout" RJ
April 20, 201313 yr Is there not anyone else near him with a Saitek yoke? Try another yoke on the same system and see what happens. In all of this now onto its 6th topic page I am not sure that anything has been eliminated. A lot of tests, but perhaps not in a method to eliminate components. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
April 20, 201313 yr Moderator Is there not anyone else near him with a Saitek yoke? Try another yoke on the same system and see what happens. In all of this now onto its 6th topic page I am not sure that anything has been eliminated. A lot of tests, but perhaps not in a method to eliminate components. He's tried a different yoke as mentioned here. http://forum.avsim.net/topic/404605-saitek-pro-flight-yoke-no-responds-after-10-or-20-min/page-5#entry2647654 I see no reason why Johann should have to go to such extreme lengths to prove a problem exists. We have eliminated the USB power saving issue. Whatever it is it's beyond our help now and he should request a replacement PC. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 20, 201313 yr Author <p>Thank you everyone. Im going to keep the yoke. Strangly the yoke did work in the begining for long time. Then stupidly I restarted the pc and then bang stoped working. Ill add a usb card in future and that might help stoped the problem. To be honest I thinking on staying on windows 7. Im affraid I will it wont work on xp as well. Im just bit lost why it does work on my laptop win 7 and not on the pc. Maybe the power hub I bought is not working as it should..<br /> If this is a windwos 7 problem saitek must remove the tag on their box saying it is compatible for win 7..<br /> thank's for the replies. and let you know if I get it fixed and hopefully help some1 with the same problem</p>
April 20, 201313 yr "Maybe the power hub I bought is not working as it should" -------- If your pc's usb ports are not working your powered hub would not work so that's not the problem its your motherboard or a software problem I hope you have updated your bios and made sure all the right switches are on in your bios Rich Sennett
April 20, 201313 yr Hope you find your problem soon.. Being grounded is not fun. Maybe you should simulate airliner pilots, and just use the autopilot and not hand fly.. :lol: Good luck RJ
April 20, 201313 yr Author Hope you find your problem soon.. Being grounded is not fun. Maybe you should simulate airliner pilots, and just use the autopilot and not hand fly.. :lol: Good luck RJ HaHAHAHAHAHA. gonna be stuck like the b787 for 4 month till problem solved. . LOL
May 23, 201313 yr Author Hi Everyone. I’ve got bad news. I Got it fixed =(The problem seems to be from my usb drivers crashing with saitek yoke driver or my driver was just corrupted. As a lot of you told me to update I did. But last week I learned that gigabyte does not upgrade my usbs drivers anymore. So then I bought A PCI usb 2.0.SO for anyone who faces this problem do the following. Make sure that you switch off the usb power safe in Win 7, and that the Windows are at high performance and does not go to sleep insert usb into every usb port, as you might have put ten it into a damage usb port check if your usb drivers is up to date go into your bio of your mb and see if all your seems to you to be correct Check if the yoke works on other pc in the house. Sometimes USB support in you bios causes this problem so make sure that that is disabled The Saitek yoke use a lot of power. Try using a power usb hub as, as a lack of power cause this problem Buy a pci usb card 2.0 or 3.0. take it to a pc clinic Thank you all for your support, I hope this helps some1 with the same problem P.s I do not take any respossibilitys if your pc break or crash id trying the methords
May 23, 201313 yr Moderator This is great news after such a long discussion. Glad you got it sorted out. :smile: Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
May 23, 201313 yr Author This is great news after such a long discussion. Glad you got it sorted out. :smile: Thanks. Thank you for everything. =D Now finaly can enjoy sim and buy me pedals. =D
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