hello all

 

im not a native english speaker so i will try to wrote my problem clearly

 

im playing fs since fs98 

 

i know ms is always demanding good pc and needing tune graphical settings in game and also at display adapter section at windows

 

i played fs9 for a long time with 2.0ghz and ati-x700  toshiba laptop and i buy fsx when it comes with deluxe option

 

i install it... ofc im not expecting to play it but i see a little how its becomes... then time past and i buy new pcs ect

 

and now im using Asus G60vx laptop its 2.8ghz core2duo with 4gb ram and Nvidia GTX260M 1Gb, win7-64bit

 

what i see i expect to run fsx with this coputer in mid range graphical setting but i couldnt ? it runs it like my old toshiba does couple of years ago... im getting 10-15fps...sometimes 20? if i dont look at scenery... lol...(limit 30) if i want to run fsx smootly with 25-30fps i need to turn down graphical settings... than i saw its graphical quality is getting worse than fs9?

 

with fs9 im turning on all graphical settings to full + AA  and anisotropic-x16 and its going at 45-60fps (limit 60)

 

im using fsx with dx10 mode wich is my gtx260m supports it and its needs to be better performance with dx10 isnt it?... and also as you all say fsx get benefits from 2 cores ect..

 

so heres the problem; why my fsx needs to run worse graphical settings (much less object ect...) than fs9 to make smooth fps? i mean fs9 actualy drawing more objects autogens ect ... more denser scenery and its getting 45-60fps but fsx is drawing 1/3 that amount  and its making 15-20fps? and funny thing is i need to turn off all the scenery and autogen to get 45-50fps

 

im using fsx sp2 witout expansion pack

and i read the sticker post above this topic.. still i dont know why is that.... so am i doing something wrong? in settings ect? cause i belive its not hardware related at all....

Your CPU is quite slow for fsx , did you try dx9 mode ? , dx 10 can be glitchy ,there is a forum on here about setting dx 10 up , try dx9 first though .

CPU too underpowered.

Very weak system. It's not really sufficient to run FSX. You have to tweak your settings as well, you can't just run FSX without changing the settings at all. Generally tweaking by moving the sliders is not good enough either. You actually need to dive down into the config files and edit them manually.

do i need to use dx10 in order to benefit from core2duo ? or dx9 can do it also?

You can use DX9. It's actually the recommended mode, dx10 was never properly implemented. It was actually just a preview of things to come in the future, had Microsoft not pulled the plug on the project. The developers themselves recommended people not to use the DX10 preview in day-to-day simming.

The second CPU core is used for scenery loading, but the basic rendering performance is still based on a single core.

 

The scenery tiles for FSX are 1024x1024, whereas in FS9 they were 256x256, so that is sixteen times the amount of information, even at similar settings..

yeah its looks like making big difference scenery with extreme dense is not impacting my performance actualy but if i turn on any autogen even with ''sparse'' setting its completly destroys my fps not other settings in game menu making a such diference in fps... i used ''shader_release_v3.2.2'' found in this forum and did some cfg tweaks like adding

 

[DISPLAY] TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80

 

[GRAPHICS] HIGHMEMFIX=1

 

on cfg file 

 i read all that guide... so do i need to revert them to orginal ? for playing dx9 again?

Hi muratoztopcu,

 

A core2duo? you must be going thru hell.. i'm using an old workstation with a Xeon 3430 (can't overclock it) and a quadro 600 and this game still eats my computer all day long... (further reading shows atleast a 3+ Ghz CPU can help greatly, fsx eats cpu, not gpu)

You can try this website for recommendations http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html on setting up your pc , if you are unfamiliar in setting up the FSX via fsx.cfg

or replacing your modified fsx.cfg file with the original fsx.cfg that you have backed up...

 

Goodluck mate,

yeah its looks like making big difference scenery with extreme dense is not impacting my performance actualy but if i turn on any autogen even with ''sparse'' setting its completly destroys my fps not other settings in game menu making a such diference in fps... i used ''shader_release_v3.2.2'' found in this forum and did some cfg tweaks like adding

 

[DISPLAY] TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80

 

[GRAPHICS] HIGHMEMFIX=1

 

on cfg file 

 i read all that guide... so do i need to revert them to orginal ? for playing dx9 again?

Those two can stay for DX9..

You can use DX9. It's actually the recommended mode, dx10 was never properly implemented. It was actually just a preview of things to come in the future, had Microsoft not pulled the plug on the project. The developers themselves recommended people not to use the DX10 preview in day-to-day simming.

While this was true in 2010, DX10 as of now is actually proving to be a very good option. ALMOST *all* problems with DX10 are being fixed, not including all sceneries at night. The only reason why an airport would be incompatiable with DX10 is because it has FS9 native polygons. If an airport has FSX native polygons, the airport will be 100% compatiable with DX10. We just need to get developers OFF the FS9 bandwagon, and on the DX10 bandwagon.

 

With today's competitative scenery market, sceneries are only getting buigger, with a larger memory footprint. The most recent example, FSDT CYVR, had a slightly higher memory footprint, which in term pushed many users to that 4GB memory limit in FSX.

 

DX10 in FSX immidiately saves about 300MB of memory, which can almost always iliminate OOM errors. Not "guarenteeing" anything, but I am afraid with today's FSX scenery technology advancing every year, DX10 might be our only savior for OOM's in the near future.

today i read whole guide again a decide to give a chance to dx10 again and something in guide cfg edit.. i miss before just  fixed my fps problem completly...i just want to thank you who/whos made that guide  now i can open my autogen clouds ect... and they are impactin my fps soo little compared to before in dx10... LFPG extreme dense scenery is 17 to 20 fps and sometimes 25 on partial views... wich is soo nice and playable for me.... other areas wich is i play mostly not compex airports is always 30fps using same in game settings as guide told...

 

i did [bufferPools] same as on guide and

 

FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.2

 

MultiSamplesPerPixel=4

MultiSampleQuality=4

 

one or some of them magically(really) fixed all issue...

 

but what actualy MultiSamplesPerPixel and MultiSampleQuality doing? i know they are about antialiasing settings but wich numbers are correspound to nvdia setting menu?

 

cos there are;

 

*2x

*4x

*8x

*8x CSAA

*16x CSAA

*16xQ CSAA

 

on my 260m-gtx

 

and they are

 

MultiSamplesPerPixel= ?

MultiSampleQuality= ?

 

because somewhere i read perpixel=4x Qality=8 is corespond 8xCsaa ? so its not looks like just wrote the same number? :Z ..

 

and another thing is ;

is there any cool addon/mod for customization ATC chat box? i just couldnt manage it.. im playing at 1366x768 and my screen not enugh for it...it looks needs to be expand to down too much to read what atc saying and said before.... im doing open/close/resize all the time...

 

 

i just want to thank you who/whos made that guide now i can open my autogen clouds

 

That was PaulJ.  He also wrote the AVSIM Software and Hardware Guide pinned at the top of this forum.

 

Best regards,

Jim

hi again last night i completly deleted fsX and re install it with this order FSX Deluxe + SP1 + Acceleration Pack

 

''that was FSX Deluxe + SP1 + SP2'' 

 

what i saw is Acceleration Pack's (without any edit) performance is more higher than SP2(without any edits)  

 

and all that cfg configs i have done after acceleration seems do nothing with performance...

(not like sp2+edits wich was 10-15fps)

 

on my old instllation sp2+ cfg edits done much more performance improvements than Acceleration+edit does...

 

i mean

 

accel > sp2

 

but

 

sp2+edits  > acceleration+edits

 

is there anything special with acceleration pack ? i got confused any clue?

You want to install only FSX Deluxe, run it once and get it set up so that it is running properly.  Now install Acceleration (do NOT install any SP's).  SP1 is included with Acceleration.  SP2 is not installed as it is Acceleration but coded differently.  Installing SP2 will create problems.  Here's a good link on how to uninstall/install FSX - http://support.precisionmanuals.com/KB/a87/how-to-uninstall-and-reinstall-fsx.aspx

 

 

Best regards,

Jim