Guys can you explain to me what make the physics different from any other plane to me it seems like its just flying like any other addon as a matter of fact its actually boring as my other aircraft get bounced around with accufeel or Opus but Q400 seems lifeless, can someone explain this to me is there something I am missing maybe I have not switched something on ?

The Q400 actually feels bouyant. You "feel" like there is air under you. Until now aircraft have rather felt like a horizontal and longitudinal axis being slewed through space. And, I had a very bumpy flight 2 nights ago hoping from Liverpool to East Midlands. Terrific.

Trevor is there a situation I can setup to feel this as Opus can bounce you around depending on the weather but I don't think Q400 can do this am wrong about this ?

I think what your missing is an understanding of how bad most turboprop flight models are.  Here's a good example; feather number 1 and taxi. Another one;  On approach notice the reaction of airspeed and the absence of lag on the torque indicators when changing power lever position.

Rich, I'm puzzled by users who've stated that the Q400 doesn't react to turbulence, etc as that's not my experience. I do see cockpit vibration and movement due to turbulence. I'm using AS2012 and OPUS (which one for weather depends on the cruise altitude); OPUS is always running if only for the camera views with DHM. No special configs or tweaks...it's working for me right out of the boxes.

Good points Zach and Wayne thats good news have to check opus out thought it didn't work as Q400 uses some programming outside of fsx of which I am not sure so never bothered to turn on Opus so no issues ? thank you guys 

thought it didn't work as Q400 uses some programming outside of fsx of which I am not sure so never bothered to turn on Opus so no issues ? thank you guys

Heard that also but something's giving me head movement while in the VC, and the only thing that could in my setup is either OPUS or FSX itself.

HI Rich - the Ol' Blackbird here for just a sec.......to add my .02.  (and if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will come along and spank my hand, and say "NO!")  :lol:

 

Ok - to the point - start Opus - go into Cameras......You must save at least 1 Camera view - I just use the VC.  I call it (or maybe the program called it?) Camera View 1.  Put that in the little space right under where it says Select your Camera View.  I don't use any buttons to activate it - but you can assign a keyboard command or Joystick button.  Mine just starts automatically once the weather is loaded.

 

NEXT - put a check mark in Enable DHM (Dynamic Head Movement).

 

Now, press the little rectangle under that - it says DHM.  This brings you to the settings for DHM.

 

Just move the sliders to the right to increase the illusion of Head Movement.  You will have to experiment with it to find settings that satisfy you. 

 

Also, make sure you click each "title" - like Enable for Taxiing, Turbulent Bumps, etc..  When you are done, click OK.  if you want to be able to automatically look to the right or left when you are turning the aircraft (while you are in 2D View), you would also set up Automatic Head Movement.  I don't care for that, myself, so I do not use it.

 

When you are done, click SAVE ALL Cameras (I think Stephen has it set up now so the program saves automatically when you click OK.  But, better safe than sorry.

 

I think that's all I did.

 

Good luck!!  Maybe if Stephen is around, he will chime in and correct any misinfo by me.

 

All best,

Ray L (Bird)

Guys can you explain to me what make the physics different from any other plane to me it seems like its just flying like any other addon as a matter of fact its actually boring as my other aircraft get bounced around with accufeel or Opus but Q400 seems lifeless, can someone explain this to me is there something I am missing maybe I have not switched something on ?

 

Turbulence doesn't really work on this addon because the fde circumvents fsx and is used outside the sim. The only turbulence that works is an addon that locks to a camera view and bounces your eyepoint, not the actual airplane.

 

But I am confused why you believe it "flies on rails" and is boring, are you even flying in windy conditions, especially takeoff and landing? It's a handful.

Hi, 747.....Hmmmmm.....don't mean to be "picky"......Your words....."The only turbulence that works is an addon that locks to a camera view and bounces your eyepoint, not the actual airplane...."

 

If your head is "moving", is that not in essence "turbulence", or at least the illusion of it - in the VC?  Does this not contribute to the feeling of "buoyancy"?

 

You are correct, of course, that the body of the aircraft does not move - only the Pilot's eyepoint in the VC - I'll concede that.  That being said.....I really can't see the body of the aircraft from my seat in the VC.

 

Just sayin', is all.......I think the illusion of buoyancy is excellent in this aircraft (especially with Opus' DHM enabled.)  My opinion....nothing more.  :lol:

 

All best,

Ray L (Blackbird)

Thank you kind Sirs for all the info good stuff - take care All.  :good:

You're welcome, Rich!

 

Have a great evening........

 

Ray L.

:drinks:

 

 

Turbulence doesn't really work on this addon because the fde circumvents fsx and is used outside the sim.

 

Exactly. Which, to be honest, is something that concerns me as I debate purchase (I WILL get it, I'm just debating my current financial situation).

 

 

 

If your head is "moving", is that not in essence "turbulence", or at least the illusion of it - in the VC? Does this not contribute to the feeling of "buoyancy"?

You are correct, of course, that the body of the aircraft does not move - only the Pilot's eyepoint in the VC - I'll concede that. That being said.....I really can't see the body of the aircraft from my seat in the VC.

 

Turbulence is more than just "bouncing your head around". Turbulence effects the aircraft itself. It effects things like speed, flight path, etc. At this point (from what I've heard and I could be wrong), DHM is the equivilant of flying through perfectly calm air and shaking your (physical) head back and forth.

 

I understand that the external FDE is amazing and feels/looks great. However, it is almost liking flying in slew mode as the "inside FSX" parameters don't fully interact with the "outside FSX" parameters. Like I said, I'm exciting to her out of a spin so don't think I'm here just to bash the plane. I'm not. It's just something that concerns me and I hope that a work-around/solution can be found and implemented in the near future.

 

Does anyone from Majestic have any input/education/clarification on this?

What some seem to misunderstand about Opus DHM and "Bump Aircraft" is it does simulate turbulence according to Live Weather, and the Aircraft does "Bump" in turbulence. I can understand where Ray is coming from, and I am sure Stephen from Opus can explain it better. Opus does not just provide VC eye movement, it also provides aircraft bump and CAT.