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I have a thread going in the main fsx forum but wanted to ask in here as well. I want to get a MCP to use with my PMDG NGX and the upcoming 777. Not to keen on GoFlight. I am looking at CPFlight or the one at Jetmax (www.jetmax.ca). CPFlight has the MCP737PRO & MCP737EL. I want the one that is easiest to interface with the pmdg software. Anyone using any of the three I mentioned? Would love to know your thoughts.

 

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Answered your post over in the FSX forum.

 

I'm secretly hoping that once the initial 777 release flurry calms down, FSLabs will expand on their CPFlight drivers to interface with the 777 (as they can now with the 747).

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Answered your post over in the FSX forum.

 

I'm secretly hoping that once the initial 777 release flurry calms down, FSLabs will expand on their CPFlight drivers to interface with the 777 (as they can now with the 747).

 

See that is the issue. We must spend on someone else to hopefully come out with a driver for the 777. If they choose not to, then what? We are looking at an expensive desk ornament when flying the 777. I sure wish there was a simple USB plug and play that could be configured through fsuipc.

 

All waiting to see if anyone is using the Jetmax MCP. The CPflight looks real good, just hate being dependant on another development house for a driver.

 

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Have you considered VRInsight's Boeing MCP? It's got the autopilot, EFIS, COMMS, NAV radios and a few user programmable buttons.  

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Have you considered VRInsight's Boeing MCP? It's got the autopilot, EFIS, COMMS, NAV radios and a few user programmable buttons.

 

I have not. Do you currently use it? If so how does it interface with fsx? Does the PMDG NGX work well with it?

 

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Get the CP Flight MCP, the workmanship and quality is superb. You can also link up panels (EFIS, COM, NAV, etc) easily with one connection. It is plug and play, and Paolo has good e-mail support if you have any issues. 

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Most VRinsight gear works brilliantly with the PMDG 737NGX, and the hardware works even better and with more features via LINDA to the NGX and many other aircraft too. LINDA is a truly indispensable tool for some VRinsight hardware owners and for conventional HID joystick type devices too. The Airbus panel from VRinsight isn't supported via LINDA though so readers should keep that in mind, although FSUIPC does support it natively, like most other VRi hardware.

 

A list of compatible aircraft can be found at the link below, its a long link but it is safe I can assure you.

 

http://vrinsight.com/public_html/download.php?dnfile=Compatibility+add-on+%28JUNE%2C+2013%29.pdf&file=/home/hosting_users/vrinsight/www/webapp/../public_html/upload_dir/board/69539907151b51d373320a.pdf

 

A word of warning though, no hardware of this type from any manufacturer will ever be totally plug and play and forget, some basic knowledge of editing of files in notepad may be needed at times, but it is really basic stuff and their are lots of people out there with VRi hardware that can help if you need it.

 

The VRinsight forum can be found at the link below. I run the community forum for VRinisght on voluntary basis, I am not an employee of VRi's, I am just a customer with contacts within the company, so I can help get customers in contact with the right people whenever they need further assistance and they aren't able to get in contact with VRi directly themselves.

 

http://vrinsight.com/phpBB3_en/index.php

 

VRi hardware probably supports more aircraft than all the other vendors put together, that is also worth keeping in mind too.

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well for the NGX the goflight is the best choise the driver they made are so nice and easy and the best combination whit the plug in goflight came whit last year you can set rotation of the buttons to what you like.. in my experince the NGX and goflight is the best ever made to work togeter and gives you the best rotation sensetivity thas often a thing i was annoyd by rotate to much and it dident move that much here it´s as sensetive as the real plane.. if you se videos of pilots using the rotation buttons you often see the the hardware out thet seems to be slow and not able to be compaired.. and i realy hope the 777 would be done aswell the same way as goflight as it works like a dream so happy to use it togeter.. no other planes work so nice as whit the plugin for the ngx... credit both to developer of it to goflight as well as PMDG for giving us a better option to use hardware...       

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but in general it´s very importan to make up your mind if you want a mcp for only those 2 planes or others as well.. the problem by getting some of the ones that get closest to look like the real ones are more expensive and requires often a driver to inter fear whit FSX or FS9 it can be good or bad... i tryeid both and could only say get something windows can see and comunicate whit.. the reason for that is i had some elite stuff and it cant run whit out a driver windows cant directly se it and that can be a problem.. i could make this conversation long but i would... so in general i think the best choise if you want it to work to other planes is to get the goflight or vrinsight the last havent been my cop of tea but much happend since i got 1 of the first vrinsight devises. linda and all that and thats usefull at some projects so far goflight isent supported by linda as far as i know, a bit sad as i think not only goflight mcp could have a nice use of it but other devises aswell...

 

So you have to make the decission if you only want it for ngx and 777  and i can only tell for my experince of vrinsight and goflight... the other 2 companys i can´t but ask the companys if the ngx and 777 would work... i whish i could coment on the other 2 companys but i can´t but i know jetmax would do all they can to give you clear awenser if you ask them i self had some quit nice and detailed conversations whit the guy behind it.. 

 

Best regards Lars N.

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1. cp flight is plug and play

2. MCP PRO and EFIS PRO are as close to the real thing as you can get. 

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Most VRinsight gear works brilliantly with the PMDG 737NGX, and the hardware works even better and with more features via LINDA to the NGX and many other aircraft too. LINDA is a truly indispensable tool for some VRinsight hardware owners and for conventional HID joystick type devices too. The Airbus panel from VRinsight isn't supported via LINDA though so readers should keep that in mind, although FSUIPC does support it natively, like most other VRi hardware.

 

A list of compatible aircraft can be found at the link below, its a long link but it is safe I can assure you.

 

http://vrinsight.com/public_html/download.php?dnfile=Compatibility+add-on+%28JUNE%2C+2013%29.pdf&file=/home/hosting_users/vrinsight/www/webapp/../public_html/upload_dir/board/69539907151b51d373320a.pdf

 

A word of warning though, no hardware of this type from any manufacturer will ever be totally plug and play and forget, some basic knowledge of editing of files in notepad may be needed at times, but it is really basic stuff and their are lots of people out there with VRi hardware that can help if you need it.

 

The VRinsight forum can be found at the link below. I run the community forum for VRinisght on voluntary basis, I am not an employee of VRi's, I am just a customer with contacts within the company, so I can help get customers in contact with the right people whenever they need further assistance and they aren't able to get in contact with VRi directly themselves.

 

http://vrinsight.com/phpBB3_en/index.php

 

VRi hardware probably supports more aircraft than all the other vendors put together, that is also worth keeping in mind too.

 

Andy, thank you for taking the time to reply. You (and Lars.. thanks as well) have me leaning to getting the VRi one. Can I beg of you a few more questions.

 

1. What is LINDA? Is it easy to work with? Never heard of it before.

 

2. I am planning on having a Precision Flight Controls yoke and rudder which is USB connected and calibrated via fsuipc. Also planning on a JetMax 737 throttle quadrant which is also USB. Just want to make sure they would pay nice with VRi hardware?

 

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Information about LINDA can be found right here at AVSIM, its support forum is linked to below, everything you want to know can be found out there.
 
http://forum.avsim.net/forum/424-linda/

 

Here is a sentence I grabbed from another post I made on the subject just a few hours ago.

 

LINDA is basically an idiots front end to FSUIPC to make it much easier to program the VRi hardware panel through FSUIPC without having to go anywhere near FSUIPC once its setup. Plus LINDA makes it easy for the "smart arses" (a complement) to share their hard work (making aircraft compatible) with the likes of you and me :) Not that I'm saying that you are an... I'll shut up now :lol:

 

 

 

 

VRinsight hardware should work fine with the hardware you mentioned. As far as I know in the 3 and a half years or more that I have run the forum for them there has never been a piece of FS related hardware that wouldn't work along side VRi hardware. One exception is the Triple Head 2 Go, VRinsight do not support that device when used with any of their devices that have a monitor built into them, so that would be products like the CDU2, JetPit, ProPit, etc and this is mentioned in their documentation and in stores. Their is no such problem with Nvidia Surround or whatever ATi's, sorry AMD's equivalent is called these days.

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One thing I forgot to say Eric is that even though LINDA itself is free, you will require a registered version of FSUIPC if you haven't got it already, without it LINDA will not work.

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One thing I forgot to say Eric is that even though LINDA itself is free, you will require a registered version of FSUIPC if you haven't got it already, without it LINDA will not work.

 

I have a registered version so no worries there. One thing, on the VRi site for the Boeing MCP it says it is compatible with the PMDG 737NG but no mention of the NGX. Just want to confirm if works with the NGX? Based on what your saying it should work with it and the 777 because it's all mapped through fsuipc this not needing the SDK?

 

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I never said support for the 777 would be automatic nor did I say that for the NGX either, native support for VRi hardware in FSUIPC has absolutely nothing to do with aircraft support from any developer, the same is true for all FS hardware manufacturers. I have no idea why you got that impression from what I have said.

 

The MCP2 Boeing panel does have drivers included with it that will allow it to work with the PMDG NGX, or you can use LINDA instead if you wish which will help you do a similar thing through FSUIPC. At no point did I say this was all automatic though just because FSUIPC can see the hardware when its (FSUIPC) setup correctly.

 

The 777 will still needs its own SDK though, unfortunately its not going to miraculously work just because its it loosely based on the same code as the NGX.

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No, I was not trying to infer that you said that. Meant was it seems the VRi stuff with LINDA would get me more return on investment than say the MCP737PRO from CPFlight.

 

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Ah sorry, I completely misunderstood what you were saying. Yes for sure you will get the best bang per buck with the VRi stuff and LINDA also takes it to another level.

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Hi,

 

Interesting post.

But I read something which is troubling me:

I have Triple Head 2 go: does it mean VrInsight hardware/drivers cannot be used ?

I did'nt get (understood) that part.

 

But tnx for taking time to explain.

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Hi,

 

OpenCockpits new MCP v3 is a good MCP and is fully supported with OCP4NGX freeware. PMDG's new B777 will be supported also.

 

rgs

 

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I have the goflight mcp and efis. Download the software from goflight and it's plug n play. Works flawlessly with ngx, very happy with it.

 

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I have the CPFlight MCP together with an EFIS unit. I have no experience whatsover of VRInsight but I do have 7 Goflight modules and used to have an Goflight MCP. All I can say is that the quality of the CPFlight MCP way exceeds the Goflight Modules. Of course it's also much more expensive, so you get what you pay for.

 

If you are looking for the most bang for the buck, the VRInsight does seem to take the top spot.

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Thanks guys for all the replys. I have actually decided to go with the JetMax MCP EFIS combo

 

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What was your reason for going jetmax please?

 

 

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Hi,

 

Interesting post.

But I read something which is troubling me:

I have Triple Head 2 go: does it mean VrInsight hardware/drivers cannot be used ?

I did'nt get (understood) that part.

 

But tnx for taking time to explain.

 

If you only want to use an MCP panel or something like that then there are no issues with using VRi hardware with TH2GO, only VRi devices with intergrated monitors/displays are not supported, so we are talking about devices such as;

 

CDU2

GPS5

Propit

Jetpit

µ-Propit

µ-Jetpit, there may be others but I cant remember them just now.

 

None of those devices are officially supported to work with a TH2GO, but they will work with Nvidia Surround and the equivalent system from AMD/ATI. You may be able to get them to work with a TH2GO but VRi will not offer you any support in doing this as its a very hit and miss affair, so its fairer to the customers to say up front that it is just not supported, like their stance on fullscreen use of the above devices in FSX is not officially supported either. Some people manage to get fullscreen mode to work but many don't and even the ones that do get it to work can't get it to work every time with every aircraft.

@@B777ER Eric you do realise you are locking yourself in to a very limited set of aircraft with that choice don't you? I thought you said you wanted to use as many different aircraft as possible with your hardware?

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