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I bought RC 4.3 a long time ago but just now started to use it since MS FSX ATC stinks.

 

But I am having some issues that I haven't found answers to yet although they may be burried in the 200+ page manual.

 

1. How do I disable MS's ATC? While I am using RC, MS's ATC runs and I hear those voices on top of RC's voices. Detuning the COM radios doesn't help as they automaticly get switched back during a flight.

 

2. Voice levels - the tower's vocies are lower in volume than the pilot's voice. Is there a volume control for each?

 

3. Lag time  - I am running FSX on a pretty fast system but there seems to be a lag from when I select a number option in RC and when it responds (seconds). Can I fix this? Also, the text in the RC box is RED yet the examples show GREEN. Does that make a difference?

 

4. Is there a way to request IFR clearance once I am already in flight or do I have to start using RC while still on the ground?

 

5. Is RC still being updated? My ver is ver old and is 4.3. Is there anything newer?

 

THanks for your help. If there is an FAQ on this, please point me there.

 

JC

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1.  Just dont use nor ever open the ATC window and it should stay quiet.

3.  Happens for me as well, AFAIK it's normal.

4.  Dunno, never tried starting RC in flight.

5.  Sort of:  JD says he is working on a RC5 but that has been so for years, I suspect it could be called vaporware at this point.

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I bought RC 4.3 a long time ago but just now started to use it since MS FSX ATC stinks.

 

But I am having some issues that I haven't found answers to yet although they may be burried in the 200+ page manual.

 

1. How do I disable MS's ATC? While I am using RC, MS's ATC runs and I hear those voices on top of RC's voices. Detuning the COM radios doesn't help as they automaticly get switched back during a flight.

 

Disable the voice in the FSX sound options. RC doesn't rely on it. (The missions do, though!) And disable the option to open the ATC window automatically with every transmission.

 

2. Voice levels - the tower's vocies are lower in volume than the pilot's voice. Is there a volume control for each?

 

Nope. You'll have to lower all the other voices and sounds "around" RC. (FSX default sounds and other "voice" addons like copilots, crews and so on.)

 

3. Lag time  - I am running FSX on a pretty fast system but there seems to be a lag from when I select a number option in RC and when it responds (seconds). Can I fix this? Also, the text in the RC box is RED yet the examples show GREEN. Does that make a difference?

 

Nothing to worry about. Voices should respond rather quickly; most of the time it's the reply options window that lags when switching text.

 

4. Is there a way to request IFR clearance once I am already in flight or do I have to start using RC while still on the ground?

 

Depends on your chosen airport and the controller options. On an uncontrolled field you simply request your weather briefing and after that choose the option 'clearance in the air'. IIRC, you can configure any airfield per flight whether you want it to be tower-controlled or uncontrolled.

 

5. Is RC still being updated? My ver is ver old and is 4.3. Is there anything newer?

 

RC4.3xxxx is still current - unfortunately.

 

THanks for your help. If there is an FAQ on this, please point me there.

 

Try the search function for your pdf manual. You should find some more details pretty quickly that way.

 

JC

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Thank you both for your quick replies. When I get home tonight I will try these.

 

I also found something called Meatwater Voice Pack2 which I plan to try tonight. Sounds very interesting!

 

JC

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Hi.

 

The Meatwater voicepacks are invaluable. They speed up all the speech and add a slight scratchiness to the voices, making the sequence of communication sound much more lifelike. I suspect you'll find that when the files were being created they were all normalised to about the same level so the volume difference between one voice actor and anothershould be pretty well eliminated.

 

If you found the upgrade in the library here, be aware that there are 10 or so downloads in total; they replace all the Radar Contact sound files.

 

Concerning the lag, I think it is inevitable. I guess it's caused by a FS-to-FSUIPC-to-RC-to-FSUIPC-to-FS cycle (assuming FSX uses FSUIPC-- I'm still on FS9...) but my knowledge of such things is hazy at best.

 

If you are using Adobe Reader for the RC manual you can search for specific text by using Ctrl+F although searching for 'IFR' will pull up a lot of references. If you are departing an uncontrolled airport I think RC will give you the option of obtaining clearance through FSS before taxiing or in the air when you contact a controller. If the airport is controlled, I don't imagine you'd be permitted to start your engines until you'd obtained clearance. Either way, you'd have to have RC running from the start.

 

If you are in VFR flight and hit bad weather... I don't know. Since it's possible to create an IFR plan 'on the fly' with FS own ATC I suppose RC could also allow it. I now have a good excuse for an evening of simming...

 

Regards,

Dave

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Thanks for the info on Meatwater. Can't wait to try but I play to backup the original files just in case.

 

Regarding asking for clearance once in the air, there is a reason why I asked. With the limited time I have used RC4, it seems like when at a large airport like JFK you have to start at the gate and go thru all the taxiways and end up at the proper runway. Often I don't have time for all that. Sometimes I just want to start at the runway and take off and not take a tour of the airport.  :lol:

 

JC

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Often I don't have time for all that. Sometimes I just want to start at the runway and take off and not take a tour of the airport

 

Fair comment. In that case position yourself around 50-100 yards from the departure runway before contacting Clearance and Tower. Half-way from your starting position to the threshold you will be switched to Tower and should beat most of the taxiing traffic.

 

Of course you should have weather loaded and know which runway is to be used for departures before you position your aircraft and start RC.

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I would just caution you that the Meatwater voices, while more realistic, are NOT complete. Some of the voices are missing. Unfortunately, the ones that were missing

were the ones I wanted to use.

I reverted to the originals 2/3 years ago.

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I would just caution you that the Meatwater voices, while more realistic, are NOT complete. Some of the voices are missing. Unfortunately, the ones that were missing

were the ones I wanted to use.

I reverted to the originals 2/3 years ago.

 

What ones are missing? I am in New York state and of course would like to hear American sounding voices. I have a slight hearing lost and American voices are easier for me to understand too.  :mellow:

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BTW anybody a link to the Meatwater voices that does not force 10 separate downloads like the AVSIM library does, IE one file?

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BTW anybody a link to the Meatwater voices that does not force 10 separate downloads like the AVSIM library does, IE one file?

 

I suspect the size of a single combined file would be too large.

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Fair comment. In that case position yourself around 50-100 yards from the departure runway before contacting Clearance and Tower. Half-way from your starting position to the threshold you will be switched to Tower and should beat most of the taxiing traffic.

 

Of course you should have weather loaded and know which runway is to be used for departures before you position your aircraft and start RC.

 

 

As another suggestion:

 

Position yourself on the runway of your choice and pre-select this runway from the RC controller menu. Connect RC and just run through those 3 clearances (IFR, taxi, T/O).

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As far as I remember, the voices that are there are American. I wanted UK ones and they were not there.

I stress this was 2/3 years ago, so I may be wrong.

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The current version is RC4.3 build 3845.

 

If I start at an uncontrolled airport I have RC "telephone" the FSS (or FIS) to get the clearance. Once you get the clearance you have ten minutes to take-off and get enroute and then activate your clearance.

 

If there is no tower frequency then an airport is not controlled.

 

If you are enroute already then there is no way to request a clearance in the air AFAIK. In other words, if you are flying under VFR rules and suddenly the weather turns sour or you wish to descend or climb through a cloud layer, there is no way to file, receive clearance, and activate a plan. RC needs to be running prior to take-off.

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As another suggestion:

 

Position yourself on the runway of your choice and pre-select this runway from the RC controller menu. Connect RC and just run through those 3 clearances (IFR, taxi, T/O).

 

I really wouldn't recommend that. RC will shout at you if you line up before Tower gives you permission. What's the point of buying advanced ATC software and then ignoring most of the departure procedures?

 

You can save a lot of time taxiing by parking close to the take-off threshold. That's the limit to saving time without breaking any ATC rules.

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The TS was talking about his limited time and FSX usually doesn't place you at a holding point (except for some addon airports): For FSX it's either at the ramp or on the runway. Ramp means additional taxi time.

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I really wouldn't recommend that. RC will shout at you if you line up before Tower gives you permission. What's the point of buying advanced ATC software and then ignoring most of the departure procedures?

 

You can save a lot of time taxiing by parking close to the take-off threshold. That's the limit to saving time without breaking any ATC rules.

In addition to what Ray stated you really would not want landing ai coming up on approach very near landing. On the ground you lose approach protection or at the least they would be doing unrealistic go-arounds.

 

RC is monitoring ai on final and will not instruct to line up unless they are far enough away. Except on you landing and while enroute RC leaves ai alone.

 

I also suggest to reduce your waiting in the take-off queue to line up on the runway shorter, investigate the freeware ai smooth in the FSX utilities section. It works on FS9 s well. Turn off the ATC message for display and audio in its options. Adjust the ai spacing on final to suit your taste. This allows departing aircraft (including you) to squeeze in between arrivals by placing ai into holding patterns. FS when you load a flight starts ai scheduled within a certain time window rushing to take-off playing catchup. If you are ready to go before the queue is reduced you will wait some time in the conga line so ai smooth's landing separation can help there.

 

aismooth_v120.zip was the last released version for both sims and contains documention.

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As far as I remember, the voices that are there are American. I wanted UK ones and they were not there.

I stress this was 2/3 years ago, so I may be wrong.

 

Good morning.

 

There is a mixture of voices in the Meatwater pack- American, British, Italian and South African I think- but I recall noticing that one was missing. It doesn't make any difference anyway as you can retain the original sound files for that voice.

 

RC doesn't allocate files by region but the RC window has a facility for assigning specific voice actors to particular roles.

 

Best regards,

D

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The TS was talking about his limited time and FSX usually doesn't place you at a holding point (except for some addon airports): For FSX it's either at the ramp or on the runway. Ramp means additional taxi time.

 

If he has a chart showing the airport layout he can position his aircraft at a gate close to the holding point. Taxiing time would be minimised. Ron gives other reasons why starting RC with the aircraft lined up on a runway is inadvisable.

 

If he has a registered version of FSUIPC he can also use Traffic Zapper to remove any aircraft in front of his aircraft as he approaches the holding point.

 

And if time is that limited choose a shorter route and accelerate to max x4 during cruise rather than bypass critical ATC procedures at the start of the flight.

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Ron/Ray,

 

how could I disagree?

 

If I had contributed to the development, testing and/or support of RC I'd be very proud of the product myself (I'm even proud I bought it!). Cutting corners in RC must look like a waste of talent and knowledge.

 

I don't consider my suggestion superior to any other approach. It's just another way to save the TS some time he can use for flying instead.

 

I'd leave the final decision up to the TS.

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Good discussion Oliver and hopefully JC will consider the pros and cons before his next flight.

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And if time is that limited choose a shorter route and accelerate to max x4 during cruise rather than bypass critical ATC procedures at the start of the flight.

 

jd did state 2x is max. Consider the response time at 2x of a jetliner as RC prepares to monitor a waypoint crossing, even in cruise, and the resources in performance consumed by FS itself plus any add-on apps.

 

I find a lot of time is invested in preflight prep of the aircraft if it is complex (PMDG 737NG). When time is limited, as you say do a shorter route (my shortest for the 737 is around 300 nm or slightly less). I also have routes of about 150 nm for freeware CRJ200s I've modified emulating what is now Delta Connection sub-contractors out of KMSP. A typical 300 is KMSP to KMDW now run by Southwest.

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