Man, after two years or more of VAS exhaustion, and O.O.M's, and CTD's because of it,  I found the max settings that you can make AND still fly for as long as you want without a VAS/O.O.M happening. I have every setting to do with texture rendering at 100 percent, but now, have Global Scenery set to Very Dense, rather than the full-out Extremely Dense.

 

I had another O.O.M about one hour into a flight the other day going with a flight path/plan between KFNT and KMYR.

 

I just got almost into West Virginia, when my O.O.M happened and whoosh, CTD.

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This was much better performance than I had for the longest time because I was running with a wrong syntax error in my  [bufferPools] section. When that was fixed a few days ago, I actually doubled my FSX endurance before O.O.M showed up again.

 

I decided to drop my Global Scenery setting (the one at the top right, sitting above the AUTO-GEN bar) down one notch from Extremely Dense (where I always ran with)...to Very Dense. I fired up FSX, and entered the exact same flight plan, with all the regular bad-boys in the background (Opus,Shade,REX,A.I. Smooth, etc) and flew towards Myrtle Beach, S.C.

 

I landed a few minutes ago, and had smooth sailing all the way.  If anybody has any kind of O.O.M issues and you also ran/run with Global Scenery at full bore, I suggest you take it down that one notch to the left to Very Dense, close FSX, fire it up again, and see if that also finally solved your VAS limit exhaustion, like it did mine.

 

Foot Note:  I did an A/B comparison of what going down one notch took away...and found that it for the most part,  only took away more dense and larger forested areas in square miles. It left all other land forms alone. That being so, I much actually now prefer the more farm field and open look to having the setting at my recently vacated; Extremely Dense. So..a final win/win situation for this simmer.  FSX is running fabulous, it runs until I decide to end the session, and with that being typed, I have just won the jackpot!

 

No more O.O.M issues, and the cost (finally discovered)  was only one notch setting to the left on the Global Scenery Bar.

 

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Ses

Hmmmm never thought that slider can cause so much OOMs. I'm currently running FSX in DX10 mode, so no OOMs fears, but I will test your idea, maybe the memory footprint will be lower, I hope.

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Hmmmm never thought that slider can cause so much OOMs. I'm currently running FSX in DX10 mode, so no OOMs fears, but I will test your idea, maybe the memory footprint will be lower, I hope.

I truly only lowered that one slider out of curiosity and end-of-my game annoyance , and then ran a full two hour flight with no problems. (thank gawd!) Now that I see what that setting renders, I actually prefer the output and look of FSXG. So...as I stated, it was a long road, trying so many things, having read so many threads, and finally having put to bed (at least on my system) something that totally ruined any FSX usage for myself, possibly for you, or that anybody else might have. Give it a try...I'd love to read if that also ended the VAS exhaustion for the reader...

This goes along with the known fix of lowering your LOD_Radius setting to no higher than 6.5 and your Texture_Max_Load setting  to no higher than 2048 (which is still HD).  Lowering settings has always been a fix for OOM's but I have never heard of lowering the Global Scenery slider.  Perhaps it will help others here in this forum who are suffering from OOM's.  Thanks for the info!

 

Best regards,

Jim

Just got an oom fsdt cyvr in the orbx pnw, only have a lod of 4.5, no AI no traffic, boats or ships, and using a texture max load of 1024, going to try your suggestion Ses

Just got an oom fsdt cyvr in the orbx pnw, only have a lod of 4.5, no AI no traffic, boats or ships, and using a texture max load of 1024, going to try your suggestion Ses

I sure hope this is the final fix for you as well, and good luck!

These types of things are sort of meaningless without actual numbers on how it affects VAS. Use Process Explorer, display the virtual size column and then compare the two settings empirically that way. You can see right there exactly how it changes the VAS load.

This goes along with the known fix of lowering your LOD_Radius setting to no higher than 6.5 and your Texture_Max_Load setting  to no higher than 2048 (which is still HD).  Lowering settings has always been a fix for OOM's but I have never heard of lowering the Global Scenery slider.  Perhaps it will help others here in this forum who are suffering from OOM's.  Thanks for the info!

 

Best regards,

Jim

Hi Jim,

 

Before I dropped Global Scenery down one notch, I was running with LOD at 5.5, and TML at the standard 1024.  Even with those, settings I was getting an OOM at about an hour of flight (also running FSXG for whatever that matters). I then dropped that setting down one, and flew 2 hours to flight completion. I have since been flying anywhere I want, and for how long the flight lasts, without a single OOM!!!  FINALLY! FINALLY!  FSX is good to go, again.  I might try this moring bumping up my TML to 2048 and then rerunning REX Extreme to load in that level of cloud set, and see what happens. If I run into another OOM, then I will merely drop back to 1024, and know that again, I will be 'good to go'...

 

Mitch

These types of things are sort of meaningless without actual numbers on how it affects VAS. Use Process Explorer, display the virtual size column and then compare the two settings empirically that way. You can see right there exactly how it changes the VAS load.

I can understand the 'scientific approach, Ryan, but I have never actually done that yet. But not having done that,....dropping down to Very Dense from Extremely Dense has ended my VAS and CDT because of it, problem.  That was the only thing I did, with no other setting or .cfg alterations. I had never done that before, ever, when trying 'this and that' out from other thread suggestions to end the OOM curse.  I just thought yesterday...'hell what the heck'.... Mitch, you haven't ever touched that setting and so, went for it. It worked, (at least for myself, on my setup).

 

Mitch

OMG!  THIS IS THE REAL DEAL....THE REAL O.O.M/V.A.S.  bannisher!

 

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I have flown for hours and hours, anywhere in the FSXG 'world', and with the following add-on's in place and running, not ONE new incident of O.O.M, and/or C.T.D.

 

Use this as a basline for your session. Some might be also using other programs or highly detailed custom planes and their cockpits. Make 'adjustments' and allow for that in YOUR results against my no-O.O.M running environment on my usage:

 

All Textures sliders on the left side of the screen at 100 percent.

On the right side of the screen; Global Scenery at Very Dense (one less setting than 100 percent); Auto-Gen at 100 percent.

 

LOD set to 5.5

 

Background add on's:

Rex Extreme with textures at 2048 HD, Water and everything else you can set the rez textures at the highest setting.  All other textures settings on the left side of the Rex OPTION page clicked as enabled.  Cloud set is HD

 

Running:  OPUS (latest stable build), EZCA, A.I. Smooth, Shade, Pete Dowson's latest gem, G.S.X. (ground services), I have purchased all the UTX LC's and do not run with UTX's lights...some custom settings within the UTX panel for all the UTX regions...for instance, reducing the shoulder width on highways, etc. Nothing major.

 

Using nVidia Inspector with FSX internal locked at 30 FPS, and Vsync (Mode Adaptive) as 1/2 refresh on a 60 Mhz wide screen monitor

 

Plane: Custom G.A. turboprop with detailed and enabled panel

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Use the above info as a sort of baseline for my non O.O.M. FSX running environment and results.  I had tried everything in the past, perhaps even standing on my head and holding my breath Voodoo sort of laughs...but just changing out on GLOBAL SCENERY from Extremely Dense to Very Dense was the ticket off of the O.O.M/CTD roller coaster. No voodoo, no drastic cull-back of any features OTHER than the one mentioned. Actually....FSXG looks even better, in that there is much more variety and 'spaciousness' now, with much less heavily packed in and dense forested square miles, and where in Michigan I like to fly, looks much more real-life, than what I was seeing with Extremely Dense, but never having dropped it down, all-the-while thinking, that I was going to lose out on some eye-candy features. Nope...was not the case....just less 'in-your-face- forest segments.

 

Happy flying...for I sure am now....   FSX (with FSXG) as far as I am concerned IS FS11, and I would have bought FS11 for $79.00 more dollars JUST FOR THE VISUALS I have now.  So...in reality, (even if M.S. would have not increased their asking price for an 'XI' series of the franchise) I was asked to spend another $30.00, and in my mind, was still a fabulous outcome.  FSX-FSXG and no further O.O.M/V.A.S. is a sheer flight simulation winner.  Wow, wow, and er....wow!  I'm on pause in a flight from Fort Lauderdale to Boston's Logan Intl.  Been in the air over 1.5 hours with all that you have read in this post...and no CTD!  Life is good...and now, to go and press 'P' again...and fly on to Boston for some clam chowder at the Old Oyster House followed by fried clams and calamari., (a glass of Sam Adam's Boston Lager as well...(always in real life, anyway...lol)  They need a piano, (told the manager time and again, real life...) for patrons to play, for if they did...I'd be rocking the place...Blues and good ole 50's rock n' roll!     Life is good...and just got a heck of a lot better in my sim world...

 

Cheers!

 

Mitch 

Just got an oom fsdt cyvr in the orbx pnw, only have a lod of 4.5, no AI no traffic, boats or ships, and using a texture max load of 1024, going to try your suggestion Ses

So, I'm curious, how did it go for you on the next exact flight?

 

 

I decided to drop my Global Scenery setting (the one at the top right, sitting above the AUTO-GEN bar) down one notch from Extremely Dense (where I always ran with)...to Very Dense

 

Quite strange, are you meaning your scenery complexity slider? If yes, this is an essential slider for scenery to display jetways (at default airports), and, some objects on addon sceneries will disappear. 

 

I have also found that FTX global has significantly reduced the chances of OOM's to appear, with their new Autogen textures. 

 

But really, the real problem is stuffing too many addons in one area. Just because we have reduced the chance of an OOM with lowing a slider, our brains will automatically want to push FSX a little more, like adding in 4096 textures, or raising autogen. 

 

It's quite tough, but your FPS will be much greater also.

 

 

OMG! THIS IS THE REAL DEAL....THE REAL O.O.M/V.A.S. bannisher!

 

Mitch, while I appreciate your excitement at having solved your problem, I think this statement indicates a misunderstanding of what an OOM is all about and how best to correct it in a general sense for other users

 

I run this setting at full.  I run a boat-load of add-ons.  I don't have OOM's.  Does this mean you're wrong?  Of course not, but you're not right either.

 

OOMs are an indication that you've loaded your system beyond FSX's capabilities and address limitations.  The solution is to somehow limit your load, but how to do that will always depend on individual configurations, add-ons and preferences.  Sorry to say, but there is NO one OOM banisher.  There is only understanding the overall system and adjusting as necessary.  Deciding which setting or add-on you can reduce or live without is always the hard part.

 

Glad you've found yours, but the key is, and always has been, about balance.  And balance means something different to all of us.

 

Scott 

Quite strange, are you meaning your scenery complexity slider? If yes, this is an essential slider for scenery to display jetways (at default airports), and, some objects on addon sceneries will disappear. 

 

I have also found that FTX global has significantly reduced the chances of OOM's to appear, with their new Autogen textures. 

 

But really, the real problem is stuffing too many addons in one area. Just because we have reduced the chance of an OOM with lowing a slider, our brains will automatically want to push FSX a little more, like adding in 4096 textures, or raising autogen. 

 

It's quite tough, but your FPS will be much greater also.

Yes, the top far right, above the Auto-Gen bar.  I dropped that down to Very Dense and didn't find any change to my airports that I frequent. I will keep an eye out though, or maybe crank it back to Extremely Dense and see if I missed anything...but I have to tell ya...the one thing I don't miss, is the O.O.M.'s and the following C.T.D.  That is looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong---------------> GONE, since 'notching' down one!  

Mitch, while I appreciate your excitement at having solved your problem, I think this statement indicates a misunderstanding of what an OOM is all about and how best to correct it in a general sense for other users

 

I run this setting at full.  I run a boat-load of add-ons.  I don't have OOM's.  Does this mean you're wrong?  Of course not, but you're not right either.

 

OOMs are an indication that you've loaded your system beyond FSX's capabilities and address limitations.  The solution is to somehow limit your load, but how to do that will always depend on individual configurations, add-ons and preferences.  Sorry to say, but there is NO one OOM banisher.  There is only understanding the overall system and adjusting as necessary.  Deciding which setting or add-on you can reduce or live without is always the hard part.

 

Glad you've found yours, but the key is, and always has been, about balance.  And balance means something different to all of us.

 

Scott 

Scott, after reading your post (thank you!), I definitely see your point being made.  You know, I have tried the following over the last two years;

 

1. Adjusting all the complexity sliders (except the Global Scenery, never touched that, since I wanted it full out...) in various amounts and see the results. They never prevented my ultimate CTD.

 

2. de-selecting in the Scenery Library (a 'la Word Not Allowed's suggestions), various scenery packages and airports that I didn't anticipate my flight path would encounter. That also did nothing to not drop me to the desktop a half, to three quarters of an hour in the air...

 

3. .cfg here's and there's, as per forum discussion and Net due diligence.  No joy there as well....O.O.M----> 'bye Mitch, nice flying with ya...'...

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Four days ago, or there about's, I decided to drop the Global to Very Dense, and did nothing else.  I have all my scenery boxes checked as on, and primed. I have all left sided sliders on the Scenery Mask Page to full, terrain, etc...at full 100 percent. I have water at the highest setting, I have special effects as on, I have no aircraft shadow on itself, but have upon the ground, and no spectral as that is a known FPS killer. So, with all of that primed and cooking, I just did one slider adjustment...and now, with no matter what custom plane, panel, what have you, I can fly at any altitude, until the cows come home, or I run out of fuel.....in other words, OUTSTANDING!  The only in-my-face difference to what is now being rendered between a setting of Very Dense, as compared to Extremely Dene, has been with viewing FSX-G, that there are not large and dense square miles of block forest as was seen with FSX-G running behind Extremely Dense. I actually now prefer the more varied, and open farm field, etc, that the Very Dense setting renders. So, Scott, as you say, this solution has been a fabulous win/win for myself. I actually now for the first time in years, get to feel confident that all my purchases were not straw-dogs, because FSX would hit the floor anytime out of the 'blue'. I can plan complex flights and procedures, with the pay out at the far numbers and tire squeal.  Excitement?  You have no idea....no...I correct that, I'll bet you most certainly DO!

 

Cheers, and happy flying...as you say, no matter how you get there, .cfg tweak, bar-slider mod, adjustment, putting a motor on a barn door...no matter...the outcome is what is important....no further FSX instability and/or system-ending sessions. No O.O.M.'s  No C.T.D.'s  Bannished! That, and that alone, is the focus...

 

Mitch'er