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Hello community,

I would like to ask of I bought a product of PMDG, such as the 777 can I share it with my freinds? As in installing it to another computer with the same product key?

 

Thanks

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an I share it with my freinds?

 

Nope.  It's licensed to you, and you alone.

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Hello community,

I would like to ask of I bought a product of PMDG, such as the 777 can I share it with my freinds? As in installing it to another computer with the same product key?

 

Thanks

That sir, is a big no no.......

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- Tell your insurance company that you "share" your car with your friends.

 

- Tell your landlord that you "share" your apartment with your friends.

 

- Tell your girlfriend that she has to "share" you with your other girlfriends.

 

You're really asking for trouble ...

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Christmas is in 3 months.

I reccon the boxed version might be available by then?

 

Something to wrap in a christmas wrapper and put under someone's christmas tree?

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 - Tell your girlfriend that she has to "share" you with your other girlfriends.

There's always a compomise for that one..... LOL!

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That would be what most people consider "pirating" or "stealing" haha.

 

 


- Tell your insurance company that you "share" your car with your friends.

 

Seeing as how I'm an insurance agent, I enjoyed this.

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- Tell your insurance company that you "share" your car with your friends.

 

- Tell your landlord that you "share" your apartment with your friends.

 

- Tell your girlfriend that she has to "share" you with your other girlfriends.

 

You're really asking for trouble ...

 

   I see no problems with share girlfriends.....lol

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I always had that question..... my family has a vacation home in ecuador, for when i spend longer than 1 week periods i installed a copy of my fsx on the computer there so when i get FSX withdrawals i can use it. Its a much simpler system and i only have it with an old sidestick joystick but it does the trick....

 

anyhow how does the license work in this case? am I not allowed to install my add ons such as the PMDG planes on that computer?

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I always had that question..... my family has a vacation home in ecuador, for when i spend longer than 1 week periods i installed a copy of my fsx on the computer there so when i get FSX withdrawals i can use it. Its a much simpler system and i only have it with an old sidestick joystick but it does the trick....

 

anyhow how does the license work in this case? am I not allowed to install my add ons such as the PMDG planes on that computer?

 

 

There have been some other similar questions asked. As long as you are the one, the only (forever and ever) user, then it won't be against the EULA.

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I had a look at EULA (and actually helping to enforce it in my community), in EULA item eYou may use the Software on a network ONLY IF each individual accessing the Software through the network has a copy licensed to that individual and installed on the machine from which they are accessing the network;

 

And in combination with the item TERMINATION, that means license will be removed from you if you fail to comply with the terms.  Just wondering, how will PMDG track/enforced in particular item e?  I understand there may be trade secret involved, but an answer I am looking for may simply be "there are mechanisms in place to enforce every EULA items"?

 

Cheers,

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Oh, dear God.

 

That and printing your own money is perfectly legal, as I recall.

 

It's not. I'm only kidding. In case that wasn't obvious. ;)

 

I had a look at EULA (and actually helping to enforce it in my community), in EULA item e, You may use the Software on a network ONLY IF each individual accessing the Software through the network has a copy licensed to that individual and installed on the machine from which they are accessing the network;

 

And in combination with the item TERMINATION, that means license will be removed from you if you fail to comply with the terms. Just wondering, how will PMDG track/enforced in particular item e? I understand there may be trade secret involved, but an answer I am looking for may simply be "there are mechanisms in place to enforce every EULA items"?

 

Cheers,

It's called copyright infringement and has both civil and criminal penalties. Security measures usually go far to preventing the majority of it, but infringement is as rampant as people are determined.

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It's called copyright infringement and has both civil and criminal penalties. Security measures usually go far to preventing the majority of it, but infringement is as rampant as people are determined.

 

Of course!  What I meant was if people are sharing a serial code and both happens to just fly at the same time.  If there was no mechanism to "catch them out", how does PMDG (or one) knows they are infringing the copyright?

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Of course! What I meant was if people are sharing a serial code and both happens to just fly at the same time. If there was no mechanism to "catch them out", how does PMDG (or one) knows they are infringing the copyright?

That's where the security comes in. I'm a lawyer, not a software developer, but I understand there are ways to link the registered serial with a particular computer (which is why you run into problems if you upgrade your CPU/motherboard). But there will always be ways around the protection. And it's unfortunate for us because infringement costs (the cost of protection measures and lost revenue) only serve to increase the price the rest of us have to pay for software.

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That's where the security comes in. I'm a lawyer, not a software developer, but I understand there are ways to link the registered serial with a particular computer (which is why you run into problems if you upgrade your CPU/motherboard). But there will always be ways around the protection. And it's unfortunate for us because infringement costs (the cost of protection measures and lost revenue) only serve to increase the price the rest of us have to pay for software.

 

Why I ask these is because in my community, I have heard of people thinking to make a purchase of the product and halve the cost so "they" both get to use the key.  However, I've told that (with referenced quotes) that it is not permitted.  So whether or not they take my advice I have no control of...  I am asking these simply so that I know for sure and I can tell them that the EULA is indeed enforced.

 

While you're here and if you don't mind explaining, this EULA applies to the product holders (or end-users), what happens if the end-user it not within USA and violates the agreement, can they/how do they get prosecuted if found out by the e-media company?

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While you're here and if you don't mind explaining, this EULA applies to the product holders (or end-users), what happens if the end-user it not within USA and violates the agreement, can they/how do they get prosecuted if found out by the e-media company?

 

The EULA is an agreement made on pruchase. If the "customer" violates it PMDG has every right to deactivate the product and deleate the key from their system so that the product will not work anymore without giving the customer their money back.

 

If the customer buys the product from PMDG they can make withever agreement they want (well, PMDG actually has to comply with the laws of their country) because in the end it is the customer who says that he agrees with the terms of pruchase on his own mind.

Ever saw this "I agree with the terms of pruchase" button you have to click before you can buy the product?

I really recommend a look into those terms of pruchase before clicking this checkbox, the question would have been perfectly answered.

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While you're here and if you don't mind explaining, this EULA applies to the product holders (or end-users), what happens if the end-user it not within USA and violates the agreement, can they/how do they get prosecuted if found out by the e-media company?

Look no further than the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) Copyright Treaty. There are other treaties as well. Most countries are party to one or more of these treaties, with WIPO being the most recent and comprehensive.

 

Make no mistake, enforcing agreements internationally is tricky business, but governments recognize that, in a global economy like ours, where information and ideas know no boundaries, rules are essential in protecting technological development.

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Look no further than the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) Copyright Treaty. There are other treaties as well. Most countries are party to one or more of these treaties, with WIPO being the most recent and comprehensive.

 

Make no mistake, enforcing agreements internationally is tricky business, but governments recognize that, in a global economy like ours, where information and ideas know no boundaries, rules are essential in protecting technological development.

 

Exactly what I was after Trevor, thanks for that!  I'll dig into it when I have anymore queries :)

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