I doubt they'd waste their already limited resources doing that when everybody is already clamoring enough for the 757.

_{Comparing the 2006 LDS 767 to the 2013 PMDG 777 is like comparing a 2006 Ferrari F430 to a 2013 Ferrari F12 Berlinetta.}

Out of curisiosity, how is the performance of the T7 compared to the LDS767?

Out of curisiosity, how is the performance of the T7 compared to the LDS767?

 

Loaded question, or genuine question?  :smile:

 

The difference in performance is exactly what you'd probably expect it to be, between a 2005 textured product and a 2013 textured product.  The LDS767 is more frame rate friendly than the PMDG777.   I can't ever imagine the opposite would apply.    Not just the texturing, but the modelling, the resolution of the displays... they are light years apart.  The 777 uses more sound files than pretty much any product (excepting ATC products) that I've ever seen for FS.  So there is a performance impact there, as you'd imagine.

 

As such, in instances where I'd get 50 FPS (unlocked) in the LDS767, I'd get 30 FPS in the PMDG77 ........ it's a heck of an enjoyable 30 FPS though. :smile:

I don't do politics - it was a genuine question. I didn't expect the answer to be any different, but the thing is, my computer really can't handle those big messy aircraft very well. So there's another reason for me to stick with what I've already got, at least until I get a better computer... Thanks for the answer!

 

 

my computer really can't handle those big messy aircraft very well

 

Well sir, that's the crucial issue.  Run what your pc will handle.

Well sir, that's the crucial issue.  Run what your pc will handle.

 

Indeed. My computer can handle the T7, I'm sure of that, but it would require dumbing down the scenery so much that I won't recognize where at all I would be flying. Contrary to the belief of some, I do want eye candy. So there. LDS767 it is.

 

Indeed. My computer can handle the T7, I'm sure of that, but it would require dumbing down the scenery so much that I won't recognize where at all I would be flying. Contrary to the belief of some, I do want eye candy. So there. LDS767 it is.

If you have to "dumb down" your computer, them your computer can not handle the 777.

 

 

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Indeed. My computer can handle the T7, I'm sure of that, but it would require dumbing down the scenery so much that I won't recognize where at all I would be flying. Contrary to the belief of some, I do want eye candy. So there. LDS767 it is.

 

Not sure what system they are running but the T7 runs light years better for me on the FPS. Its actually flyable from the VC and it did not require the dumbing down of my scenery. I say you should wait till SP1 and reevaluate, While this release was excellent I am pretty sure most of the grumbles people have had about the plane will be silenced once the first Service Pack comes out. 

If you have to "dumb down" your computer, them your computer can not handle the 777.

 

 

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Erm... are you implying that a computer can only actually handle the 777 when scenery is on max? Because by that logic, I'm pretty sure your computer can't handle the 777 too. Or do you have all your settings maxed out without seeing a slideshow? It's strange. I always thought it was the most normal thing in the world that you decrease scenery complexity ("dumb down") in order to get a better experience flying complex aircraft.

 

Not sure what system they are running but the T7 runs light years better for me on the FPS. Its actually flyable from the VC and it did not require the dumbing down of my scenery. I say you should wait till SP1 and reevaluate, While this release was excellent I am pretty sure most of the grumbles people have had about the plane will be silenced once the first Service Pack comes out. 

 

The 777 runs better for you than the LDS767? I find that hard to be believe, honestly. Do you have some figures to go with that statement?

 

Erm... are you implying that a computer can only actually handle the 777 when scenery is on max? Because by that logic, I'm pretty sure your computer can't handle the 777 too. Or do you have all your settings maxed out without seeing a slideshow? It's strange. I always thought it was the most normal thing in the world that you decrease scenery complexity ("dumb down") in order to get a better experience flying complex aircraft.

 

 

The 777 runs better for you than the LDS767? I find that hard to be believe, honestly. Do you have some figures to go with that statement?

 

 

Its actually better on performance... VC is actually navigable compared to the LDS767 because I dont have to worry about random lag spikes while panning around to move buttons. And the "turning sliders down" method in order to increase performance doesn't necessarily work totally with FSX. Turning SOME sliders down actually decreases performance in instances. I kinda learned this a while down the road.

Its actually better on performance... VC is actually navigable compared to the LDS767 because I dont have to worry about random lag spikes while panning around to move buttons. And the "turning sliders down" method in order to increase performance doesn't necessarily work totally with FSX. Turning SOME sliders down actually decreases performance in instances. I kinda learned this a while down the road.

 

Hm, interesting. The LDS767 has always been one of the best performing tubeliners for me.

 

I know about the sliders not always working. I have found that certain sliders do nothing for performance on my setup, and some clearly do. The thing about setting sliders at minimal worsening performance is something I have seldom seen, though. As always, performance and how to setup FSX is highly variable across computers.

 

Lol..I'll play along.

 

1. Price - Level D

2. Graphics - PMDG

3. Systems - PMDG

4. Features - PMDG

5. Flight model - PMDG

6. Value - PMDG by a mile and a half

 

Not that the Level D is bad. The PMDG 777 is just so much better. The best aircraft addon ever created for FSX.

How do you know the flight model is so much better then the level_d flight model? Because it says on the side of the box?

 

Hmmm...good point. I guess because it "feels" more like a large airliner. The 777 and the PMDG 747 are the only 2 addons that have this characteristic for me. I can feel the weight in the flight dynamics.

 

But to be fair, seeing as how neither you nor I can say for sure:

 

Flight Model - ???

 

PMDG 777 still wins handily.

 

 

Just get both!!

 

The best advice. Well played!