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PFPX and WIND DATA

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Since we can connect PFPX directly to active Sky, it would be a really nice feature from them to add the export weather from PFPX directly to the WX folder using the weather format from Active Sky. and to be updated also accordingly during the flight if changes occur

Remy Sarkis

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You can use Active Sky .wx file on the relative path for winds aloft. This is a feature already implemented in the early stageof development.

Riccardo

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You can use Active Sky .wx file on the relative path for winds aloft. This is a feature already implemented in the early stageof development.

this is exactely what i am doing but my question is the following: in order to load the active sky weather data into the PMDG777 FMC you should process the flight plan then copy the route with the wind info and name the file same as the route with a .wx extention and then place it in the WX folder [PMDG]. so all of this has to be done manually. it would be a really nice feature from pfpx to export automatically and periodically the weather to the related folder so the winds on the pmdg fmc are updated

Remy Sarkis

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Guys - from my understanding, this manual WX import thing was put out there for those who wanted it early.  The hope is that those programmers in the community with weather functions would eventually adopt the format.

 

If you're hoping other programmers would pick up the concept, it would probably be a better use of your time to post it over in their forums or support systems.

Kyle Rodgers

A bit OT, but related:

 

I just came back from the FSGRW forums, Bernd will add both wind data export for PMDG T7 and a weather file for those who wants to use FSGRW as source for PFPX.

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If you're hoping other programmers would pick up the concept, it would probably be a better use of your time to post it over in their forums or support systems.

 

I'll save these guys some clicks and mention that in said fora, the topic has been breached and official word from PFPX is that they are working on it...  (ellipses were used there as well). 

Elijah Hoyt
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I'll save these guys some clicks and mention that in said fora, the topic has been breached and official word from PFPX is that they are working on it...  (ellipses were used there as well). 

thank you for the info. great news. i already opened with them a support ticket regarding this issue, but still didnt get a reply from their side. so excellent if they are doing so, it would be awesome.

any news if she WX would also update with wind change?

Remy Sarkis

BAW1031

UAE1525

 

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any news if she WX would also update with wind change?

 

I have no idea. To be frank I don't know if the real airplane does this either, but if it does it's probably through a data link to the dispatch office or something of the like. For that to happen, PFPX would have to be on all the time and regularly updating the .wx file, and I don't know if that would work. It's an idea though!

Elijah Hoyt
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this is exactely what i am doing but my question is the following: in order to load the active sky weather data into the PMDG777 FMC you should process the flight plan then copy the route with the wind info and name the file same as the route with a .wx extention and then place it in the WX folder [PMDG]. so all of this has to be done manually. it would be a really nice feature from pfpx to export automatically and periodically the weather to the related folder so the winds on the pmdg fmc are updated

Remy, sorry for late reply.

 

Sincerely I didn't understand what you want to do with fmc, do you refer to winds aloft forecast along the route? Why do you have to rename the file .wx and put it in ASE folder?

 

Can you explain me step by step what you want to do and what do you refer to?

Riccardo

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I for myself prefer to set up the wind data manually out of my OFP. So I ever know and remember the points where strong changes will occur on my way. And I have an overview about the complete situation. I don't like too much automatism in programming the FMC. All what you did manually is better to remember and you are the man who is flying the bird. Be always ahead of your bird. To programm the FMC ( also the Route ) keeps you more ahead instead of let do the computers all the stuff.

 

Yesterday I was on the flight from St. Maarten back to Cologne. I was always about three four minutes late compared to my schedule. But I knew that pver the british islands the wind will turn into a strong tail wind with more than 100 kts from the beginning of my flight at TNCM. So at the end I was straight on time....May be if I put the wind stuff into the FMC automatically, I do not check so exactly how the situation is on the flight...

 

Just MHO..

 

Best

 

Steff

 

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Steffen Rabenau, Berlin, Germany / stevens-va.de

Surely, to reflect the real world properly, we require forecast winds from PFPX, and actual en route winds from a weather engine such as AS2012 or Active Sky Next?

 

I look forward, as Steffen says, to situations where, for all our planning, the actual wx encountered is somewhat different.

Cheers, Richard

Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.2 GHz, 16 GB memory, 1 TB SSD, GTX 1080 Ti, 28" 4K display

Win10-64, P3Dv5, PMDG 748 & 777, Milviz KA350i, ASP3D, vPilot, Navigraph, PFPX, ChasePlane, Orbx 

... and you can now use FS Global Real Weather too for FMS WIND REQ :)

 

The newest update, 1.07, has an option to save weather as XXXXYYYY.wx file for T7.

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Remy, sorry for late reply.

 

Sincerely I didn't understand what you want to do with fmc, do you refer to winds aloft forecast along the route? Why do you have to rename the file .wx and put it in ASE folder?

 

Can you explain me step by step what you want to do and what do you refer to?

Hi Ricardo,

 

no worries mate for the late reply :) hehe.

 

 

what I am actually doing is the following:

I do have Active Sky 2012. and PFPX

in the option of PFPX you can link the weather to Active Sky 2012 in order to reflect the wind speed, direction and OAT. this would help in the calculation of fuel burn ...

so once I plan the flight and in order not to enter manually the wind aloft in the fmc for each waypoint , there is a way to export the flight plan to FSX format and then import it into active sky then process it and once done you copy the wind data to a text file and you change the extention to .wx (same naming convention as the flight plan) and you place it in the WX folder of the pmdg 777. that way you can import the wind data of your route in a single click.

but in long haul flights the winds are not the same so the update will not take place and you will have erroneous values. 

 

what I am trying to say it that since PFPX has a direct link to Active Sky weather it would be a nice feature while exporting the pmdg777 Flight plan that PFPX also export the winds to the WX folder and update them on a regular basis could be a time trigger or wind change trigger (plenty of ways to do so ) and reflect the changes in the fmc.

 

hope that I made myself Clear :)

Remy Sarkis

BAW1031

UAE1525

 

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Remy,

As I understand it, PFPX is purely a tool designed for a dispatcher's use (i.e. on the ground), not as an en-route winds updater. Actual winds encountered should come from a weather engine, such as AS2012.

Cheers, Richard

Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.2 GHz, 16 GB memory, 1 TB SSD, GTX 1080 Ti, 28" 4K display

Win10-64, P3Dv5, PMDG 748 & 777, Milviz KA350i, ASP3D, vPilot, Navigraph, PFPX, ChasePlane, Orbx 

Hi Ricardo,

 

no worries mate for the late reply :) hehe.

 

 

what I am actually doing is the following:

I do have Active Sky 2012. and PFPX

in the option of PFPX you can link the weather to Active Sky 2012 in order to reflect the wind speed, direction and OAT. this would help in the calculation of fuel burn ...

so once I plan the flight and in order not to enter manually the wind aloft in the fmc for each waypoint , there is a way to export the flight plan to FSX format and then import it into active sky then process it and once done you copy the wind data to a text file and you change the extention to .wx (same naming convention as the flight plan) and you place it in the WX folder of the pmdg 777. that way you can import the wind data of your route in a single click.

but in long haul flights the winds are not the same so the update will not take place and you will have erroneous values. 

 

what I am trying to say it that since PFPX has a direct link to Active Sky weather it would be a nice feature while exporting the pmdg777 Flight plan that PFPX also export the winds to the WX folder and update them on a regular basis could be a time trigger or wind change trigger (plenty of ways to do so ) and reflect the changes in the fmc.

 

hope that I made myself Clear :)

 

Perfectly clear Remy, I've understood weel but was not sure, this is the same "problem" I got with MD11 long haul, last I took from EHAM-SAEZ I've this problem and know what you mean regarding winds aloft data. Especially for long haul.

 

But only PMDG 777 has this feature to import .wx file? not NGX/MD11 correct?

 

If you want I can contact PFPX's author and ask specifically to insert "your desidered" function.

Riccardo

OS: Windows 10-64 bit, CPU: i7-7700K @4.20 GHz, GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 8GB GDDR5, RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 32GB 3000MHz, MB: MSI Z270

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