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DX10 fixer does create issues I never had before

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Hello,

 

I guess the title is clear. I am getting issues I never had before, like hang ups, drops of framerate (10 vs 30).

 

Oke this is my system:
MSI 67-mainboard
Core i7-2600, @ 4.2 ghz, hyperthreading switched off
16GB memory DDR 1333
SSD
Nvidia GTX 580
Monitor 1920*1200

I guess not to bad.
FSX is set to a framerate of 30fps.

FSX consist of
SP2
Several Carenado planes
Several sceneries (ORBX, Switzerland Pro)
Other sceneries from Germany, Austria and the Netherlands.
I am using Rex Essentials +.

Under DX9 the FPS where between 27-30 and regular and over areas with NL2000 it could drop to 15. Or even worse.
Fullscreen or windowed does not really make a difference.

When I select Dx10, the framerate drops to 25, windowed and 21 Fullscreen.

If I run the DX fixer too, the FPS drops windowed to 19 and fullscreen to 15.

 

When I am underway for an hour + give or take it 15-30 minutes, I suddenly see that little wheel that you see in Windows 7.
It looks like a black and white bitmap, and all drops to 8 fps. Everything is slugish.

I thought to be smart and used unlimited FPS.
Well that works pretty good. After 15 minutes I do a take off and suddenly a complete standstill of the sim, for minutes. One time I waited for over an hour and then it flies another 15 minutes till the next stop. But it keeps nice to the 44fps.

 

I even tried to throw away the fsx.config. That did not help at all.
 

I tried this: http://www.simforums.com/forums/drivers-nv-inspector-fsxcfg-complete-guide_topic36586.html

And you guess it, no solution.

 

Maybe someone is able to give me some tips, to solve my issues?
I am guessing that I have problems elsewhere, but I do not know where.

 

Greetings,

 

robb

 

 

Robb,

You seem to have a system almost the same as mine.

Try the attached Nvidia Inspector and import it.

Also attatched is my FSX cfg, pick the bones out of it.

 

The JE_DX10.txt must be renamed JE_DX10.NIP before importing

 

Edit: Read post #7 from PJ. I forgot to tell you that bit of important info

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/423023-pmdg737ngx-instument-panel-issue/

System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A,  Intel i9-14900KF,  Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU

 

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That did not help at all.
Yet I do not know which bones you meant.
I picked out the highmem fix. But it stays around 20fps in windowed mode and 15 in full screen.
As soon as Rex is started, it jumps down to half of it, and I get that loading circle, after I add the GPS and undock it.

 

Her is my FSX.config.

[GRAPHICS]
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693458432
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693458432
D3D10=1
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024
NUM_LIGHTS=8
AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
AC_SELF_SHADOW=1
EFFECTS_QUALITY=2
GROUND_SHADOWS=0
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
IMAGE_QUALITY=0
See_Self=1
Text_Scroll=1
MultiSamplesPerPixel=4
MultiSampleQuality=8
HIGHMEMFIX=1
[SOUND]
AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000
PrimaryDevice={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
VoiceDevice={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
SOUND=0
SOUND_QUALITY=2
SOUND_LOD=0
UISound=1
AmbientUI=1
[Display]
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64
InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0
InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0
InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255
InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True
InfoPauseEnable=True
InfoSlewEnable=True
InfoStallEnable=True
InfoOverspeedEnable=True
BLOOM_EFFECTS=1
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=40
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30
WideViewAspect=False
[Main]
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
ProcSpeed=17524
PerfBucket=7
Location=-8,-8,1928,1178,\\.\DISPLAY1
Maximized=2
HideMenuNormal=0
HideMenuFullscreen=1
[PANELS]
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
DEFAULT_VIEW=0
QUICKTIPS=1
PANEL_OPACITY=100
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0
[Weather]
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com
WeatherServerPort=80
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=0
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=3
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.0]
Mode=1920x1200x32
AntiAlias=1
[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard
JOYSTICKS=1
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4
[TextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4
[SlewTextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
[SlewTextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
[SlewTextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
[Trusted]
C:\Program Files (x86)\GoFlight\GFDevFSX.exe.ceqwbhltilltiwaunoauzleuozokkkhzoqetchib=1
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FlyLogic\SeasonFileSwitcherV2\SeasonFileSwitcherV2.exe.czooehibzunukqtzewuhoucllihlkultahukuhhu=1
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FlyLogic\SeasonFileSwitcher.exe.okckioczaoruberhkqizbaiwqtlutrwbrcutenun=1
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\ORBX\FTX_NZ\FTX_NZNI_05_SCENERY\scenery\ObjectFlow_NZNI.dll.lckquokiroizhiihiqruhlahlbhqqhiaubcibozk=1
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\VistaMare\ViMaCoreX.dll.abzknbncotucoqrnztwotkwzizobtztlchtkrzzn=1
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Aerosoft\Flight Recorder\AS-FlightRecorder.dll.nnlibziocohrekiheakkiwowkllhbzuoqzlcllib=1
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.ehihuuuzhbuizuolrtqoiiuttnbwbeerrrqneuac=1
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\GCCB1.GAU.nctohbubhwqoorukbaklukuibckewakhbqrhutrk=2
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\WX_Gauge.DLL.btihiowkriziuoizkcqhwzwteuhqkwzwztnieawt=2
[DynamicHeadMovement]
LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000
LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
MaxHeadAngle=5.000000
MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
[VirtualCopilot]
VirtualCopilotActive=1
[USERINTERFACE]
ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1
SelectAircraftManufacturer=Carenado
SelectAircraftPublisher=All
SelectAircraftType=All
PageID=1
OpenATCOnCreate=0
SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0
PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0
PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1
SITUATION=FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM
Map_Orientation=2
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.1]
Mode=1920x1080x32
[ATC]
ShowATCText=1
COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B
COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00
COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840
AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1
UsePilotVoice=1
PilotVoice=0
[PointOfInterestSystem]
CycleSetting=0
[SCENERY]
LENSFLARE=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=4
[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=20
GADensity=20
FreewayDensity=20
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=25
LeisureBoatsDensity=24
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=3
[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=4.500000
MESH_COMPLEXITY=75
MESH_RESOLUTION=20
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=25
AUTOGEN_DENSITY=3
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_EFFECTS=7
[AContain]
ShowLabels=1
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
[INTERNATIONAL]
ASLAT=2
ASLON=0
MEASURE=0
[REALISM]
PFactor=0.000000
Torque=0.000000
GyroEffect=0.000000
CrashTolerance=0.000000
General=0.000000
UnlimitedFuel=True
TrueAirspeed=False
AutoCoord=True
RealMixture=False
StressDamage=False
GEffect=False
ManualLights=False
GyroDrift=False
CrashWithDyn=False
CrashDetection=False
AutoTrim=False
[SIM]
SYSCLOCK=1
[STARTUP]
DEMO=0
SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1
STARTUP_DEMO=
LoadWindow=1
[FACILITIES]
COUNTRY=
STATE=
CITY=
GTL_BUTTON=1232
[Misc]
Com_Rate=7
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.0.0]
Mode=1920x1200x32
AntiAlias=1
Anisotropic=1
[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.0.1]
Mode=1280x720x32
[MULTIPLAYER]
condAccoutPassword=0

 

 


That did not help at all.

As you seem to lack manners, like a simple "Thank you, but that did not work" I suggest going to the Rex forum. Don't forget to say please.

System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A,  Intel i9-14900KF,  Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU

 

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O sorry.
I had posted that, just before I went to bed.
Had been working for 14 hours, did do some quick testing and thought, just before turning to bed, that I post my results. And that was around 2 in the morning.

So THANK YOU, for your effort so far. And my excuses, for not telling in the first place.

Despite, using REX or not, I loose about 10fps, while using DX10.
I also get those drops to 8fps, if I use the tool.

So in short. the tool does not work. Eventhough the fs2004 planes do not look white anymore.
I go back to DX9, and write off the 30 euro.

And on a later date, when I have more time, I do a complete reinstall of FSX, and see then, if it works.

 

Rob

Try to disable vsync completely. Including 1/2" refresh rate in NI.

The major issue in your cfg, Robb - is your traffic.

 

[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=20
GADensity=20
FreewayDensity=20
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=25
LeisureBoatsDensity=24
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=3

 

Here is a list of cfg setting for you to set into the config, so that you can get an idea of how much better the sim can run by lowering everything just a little.....

 

Thanks for "Tipping your hat" to Julian, Robb. We're all volunteers here, and though we may not go looking for kudos and thanks - a rude response will often result in a rude answer! We appreciate your honesty, and sympathize with anyone who has to work a 14-hour day!

 

I hope this (your "insane" traffic! ) - when pulled back will fix the issue. It should.

 

All the best,

 

pj


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So THANK YOU, for your effort so far. And my excuses, for not telling in the first place.

Thanks Robb. As PJ posted, adjust your settings and let us know. Don't give up on Dx10, it is well worth tinkering with FSX to get the best results.

System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A,  Intel i9-14900KF,  Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU

 

Take everything into account, including clouds and water. I had to fiddle with my settings. Fly over water and over land and see when you have water or clouds in you POV and your frames drop. I used to gate DX10 for its irregularities, but now it runs as smooth as butter and on pretty high settings too.

Konstantin Kharlamov

Supporter of: PMDG, FlyTampa, FsDreamTeam, FlightBeam, FSFX.

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Will look into it this evening (not every day 14 hours...).
And ofcourse, I will tell the results here.
I admit, I had not thought of the traffic as an issue, as the slider looks pretty much on the low side in the config of FSX itself.
Guessing putting it to half of what it is?

Thanks for the tips.

 

Rob

Put all traffic to 0 will be a good start, and then slowly raise the numbers up

Konstantin Kharlamov

Supporter of: PMDG, FlyTampa, FsDreamTeam, FlightBeam, FSFX.

747_400_F1472553553.png

Rob - please - read the doc I included for you in post #7. There's no point in doing one thing when you have many issues. That's just guessing again. 

 

pj


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@Stevejp
You are correct. But not all. I thought only name, distance etc.
@ the rest
I did read that document #7. And adjusted most items. Not all.
I halved the traffic.
That resulted in no traffic at all.
FPS where in windowed mode still around 21-25 fps. Full frame was suddenly 29-30fps.
So I have been flying around, pretty close to the ground, for over 1,5 hours. And happy that I was?

Suddenly I wanted to know where I was hanging around. Fired up Plan-G. FPS in windowed mode dropped 1 fps.
Time for REX.  Euh, what a problem. Somewhere between 8 and 17 fps. Still good flyable in Windowed mode.
When I switched to Full screen, it went up to 30fps again. And it crashed after 30 seconds..

So in general, I am happy. If only Rex would work properly?

 

What did I not change?
BLOOM_EFFECTS=1 (in document value 0)

 

TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=40 (in document it was 80. I thought 40 must be better then 80 anyway).

Not added: FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.1 because not knowing what it does do.

Did not add DisablePreload=1.Not sure if I should take it out, as I have SSD?

LENSFLARE=1 in documet the value is 0.
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=4 In documentatie 3. I doubted about what the effect would be.

LOD_RADIUS=4.500000 In document 3.5
WATER_EFFECTS=7 In document 3. There is no water where I live, except a few rivers. Changed it now to 4.

MESH_COMPLEXITY=75 Lower value then in Document.
MESH_RESOLUTION=20 Lower value then in Document.
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=25 Lower value then in Document.

ShipsAndFerriesDensity=2 In document a bit lower
LeisureBoatsDensity=2 In document a bit lower

AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=3 In document 1.


Considering all things that I did not change means the others allready made me happy.
Not sure if I should continue with the few above.
And when Rex is not available, there is no issue, but it is, when it is actived.
Is that something for the Rex forum?

Thanks for your help sofar.

 

Rob

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Hello again,

 

I took out bloom, and changed more items like mentioned in the document.
Now I could fly with Rex + overdrive in fullscreen, around 26-30 fps.

Sometimes the fps dropped to 7, and occasional to 1, but it recovered allways back to 26-30.
Most trouble I had, while following the river Rhine and Mosel in Germany. Pretty much winding around.

So far I am happy. One thing I would like to see a solution for.
In DX9, and full screen, I could open a GPS and place that on my second monitor.
Now in DX10 it seems to function too, but after a couple of minutes it disappeares, or I get that loading mousepointer. No issues in windowed mode, but the framerate is lower (around 16). Which is also the oposite of DX9.

Thanks again.

 

RobB
 

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