Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Sportsfan23

Experience with this scenery?

Recommended Posts

I have FTX Global but I just found something by a company called Mega scenery called photo scenery. It looks pretty awesome and it appears to get rid of all auto gen stuff though which I am not sure is good or bad?

 

Does anybody have any experience with this scenery and if you do which was better the photo scenery or the scenery with the autogen? Are they compatible with FTX Global?

 

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Help AVSIM continue to serve you!
Please donate today!

Search the forum here and you will find hundreds of discussions on this.

 

BTW, there really is no one is better than the other, it just depends on which you like more or suites your needs. Price can also be a concern depending on if you want to spend hundreds of dollars to cover the US in photoreal or just want a global texture replacement set.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Search the forum here and you will find hundreds of discussions on this.

 

BTW, there really is no one is better than the other, it just depends on which you like more or suites your needs. Price can also be a concern depending on if you want to spend hundreds of dollars to cover the US in photoreal or just want a global texture replacement set.

 

Yea I didn't think to search for it. What happens in the fall and winter though? Does the photo real scenery change or is it always just green all the time?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Photoscenery looks good at high altitude, not so good on the ground. It needs to be paired with good mesh and autogen, otherwise it can look flat. And often only one season is presented. My favorite photoscenery is of Hawaii, either MegaScenery payware or there is some excellent freeware by Ironhand for some islands.

 

http://en.shop.aerosoft.com/eshop.php?action=article_detail&s_supplier_aid=12047&position=54694711&anzahl_treffer=267

 

http://www.lockonfiles.com/files/category/28-fsx-scenery-packs/

 

Cheers,

 

Noel.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well I have FS global 2010 but I wasn't planning on installing it on my new computer. That was one of my concerns about it would be everything would look super flat while on the ground and there would be no trees or anything.

 

Are there any autogen buildings at airports and stuff or surrounding areas or is it just the photo scenery?

 

Does the photo scenery reflect season change at all?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There is a forum here at AVSIM dedicated to photoreal scenery call 'The Photoreal Scenery Support Forum', which has a lot of good threads with screenshots so you can judge for yourself if you prefer it.  I would download some freeware photo scenery and try it out for yourself as to weather you like your scenery "flat" or not.  You can add lot's of 3rd party enhancements to photoscenery so it will not look flat.  Some photo scenery include all the 3D goodies... like certain airports or city scenery.  Some, like MSEv2 only include the photo ground texture. 

 

Seasons will not change unless the developer has included seasons (MSEv2 does not).  There will be no autogen but there will be library type buildings visible such as airports.  I would grab some freeware stuff from Bluesky for Las Vegas, Nevada, USA and then you can see how it mixes with the custom casinos, hotels and airport. 

 

Some simmers prefer photoscenery and even prefer it without 3D buildings and vegetation.  Others can't stand it and choose to go another route.  Some, like me do a mix... photoscenery where I can get it.  Add my own 3D stuff.  Then use what else is out there for other areas. 

 

Hope that helps,

 

Clutch

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is an automatic message.

 

This topic has been moved from "MS FSX Forum" to "The Photoreal Scenery Support Forum". This move has been done for a number of possible reasons.

  • The most likely reason is that the post was off topic.
  • The topic could also have contained images or a video that were not appropriate to the original forum it was posted in.
  • The images might not have been "illustrative" or "explanatory" in nature.
  • The topic could have been moved because we deemed it to be more appropriately placed elsewhere.
Please ensure that your posts are "on topic" and contain illustrative images or videos as appropriate. Do not post videos or images just for entertainment purposes anywhere but in the screen shot or video forums. See our image posting rules here.

 

Members who continue to post off topic posts can be denied entry to specific forums in order to reduce and remove the practice. Your cooperation is appreciated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have FTX Global but I just found something by a company called Mega scenery called photo scenery. It looks pretty awesome and it appears to get rid of all auto gen stuff though which I am not sure is good or bad?

 

Does anybody have any experience with this scenery and if you do which was better the photo scenery or the scenery with the autogen? Are they compatible with FTX Global?

 

 

FTX Global is just a replacement set of textures like the kind that are default with the autogen placed differently, but still the same generic tiles. photoscenery is a satellite image placed on the ground so you can fly over the real thing.

 

With photoreal, the pros are that you see the real thing from the air, it saves on performance if it doesn't have autogen like most don't, you can add your own objects and autogen to any photoreal tiles though for a complete experience. The cons are very large files sizes depending on the resolution (default FSX is 1 meter/per pixel), flat if no autogen, no seasons or night lighting if the author doesn't add it and last, but not least, many times airports don't line up with photoreal since the data that MS used is off, but an easy fix with ADE.

 

I prefer photoscenery with autogen myself!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thid shot should give you an idea how it works.  This is Megascenery Washington at Orcas Island airport.  I also have ORBX Pacific Northwest demo installed.  The 3d buildings, cars, planes you see are all placed there by ORBX.  THere is also moving traffic along the roads placed by ORBX.  So anything 3d objects deliberately placed by ORBX will show on top of the photoscenery.  That means HAND PLACED objects.  Autogen objects are not handplaced and will not show up.

 

This looks pretty good IMHO with the ORBS objects.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There is a forum here at AVSIM dedicated to photoreal scenery call 'The Photoreal Scenery Support Forum', which has a lot of good threads with screenshots so you can judge for yourself if you prefer it.  I would download some freeware photo scenery and try it out for yourself as to weather you like your scenery "flat" or not.  You can add lot's of 3rd party enhancements to photoscenery so it will not look flat.  Some photo scenery include all the 3D goodies... like certain airports or city scenery.  Some, like MSEv2 only include the photo ground texture. 

 

Seasons will not change unless the developer has included seasons (MSEv2 does not).  There will be no autogen but there will be library type buildings visible such as airports.  I would grab some freeware stuff from Bluesky for Las Vegas, Nevada, USA and then you can see how it mixes with the custom casinos, hotels and airport. 

 

Some simmers prefer photoscenery and even prefer it without 3D buildings and vegetation.  Others can't stand it and choose to go another route.  Some, like me do a mix... photoscenery where I can get it.  Add my own 3D stuff.  Then use what else is out there for other areas. 

 

Hope that helps,

 

Clutch

 

I will look into that and try it out. I like the autogen buildings and stuff but I thought maybe there was a way to add autogen on top of the photo scenery to like combine both worlds if that makes sense.

Yea that picture looks good. If only the photo scenery could be 3d haha.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe try the $5 MegaSceneryEarth Hawaii package. That will give you a good idea of what you can expect for a nominal outlay.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

After looking at more videos online it seems like there are quite a few buildings that are 3D. I just saw a video of mega scenery Las Vegas and it seemed like a majority of the bigger buildings were all 3d and looked great.

 

Is that the case with most major cities? Or am I correct in assuming that those buildings aren't autogen and therefore would show up that way anyway?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And now I just came across a bunch of cities from Aerosoft or something like that. I think that is what I was looking for. Sure it's not the whole state but it appears to have tons of 3d buildings and structures around the cities which is really what I was looking for.

 

Now can I just install those and use them with FTX Global and payware airports or do I need to re-order the scenery in the scenery library or something? Or does trying to use those programs together cause issues?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

With MSE at least, some default 3D buildings will appear on top of the scenery. These are the buildings and objects that were "hand-placed" by Microsoft and are not part of the autogen system, and show through any photoreal scenery product.

 

Aerosoft cities are a good product. These also work fine with MSE products.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And now I just came across a bunch of cities from Aerosoft or something like that. I think that is what I was looking for. Sure it's not the whole state but it appears to have tons of 3d buildings and structures around the cities which is really what I was looking for.

 

Now can I just install those and use them with FTX Global and payware airports or do I need to re-order the scenery in the scenery library or something? Or does trying to use those programs together cause issues?

 

To see what would show through with a photoreal product like MSE, turn off your Autogen slider.  Any objects you see then would be seen with MSE installed. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

fscottee ... Any chance you could expand a little on what the combo of photo and Orbx is about. I have most of Bluesky's California and i also have FTXG ... is combining these an option and if so what is involved in setting it up? ...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

All I did is install ORBX PNW demo as normal, then install any photosecenery you like.  It doesn't matter where the photoscenery is in the order it will always take precedence over the land textures.  You get all the ORBX airports, and any handplaced 3d objects including trees (normally around airports or cities), stationary traffic, all moving traffic along roadways, etc..  There is no autogen that will come through, that means no tress outside of cities or airports, no autgen buildings, etc... 

 

In addition, any of their payware and freeware airports will show on top of photoscenery also.  I'm very tempted to start purchasing some of their awesome add-on airports for the PNW but I'm not sure if I have to purchase PNW or not??

 

 

ORBX overrides the default FSX objects and airports, but that's OK cause they suck anyway.   At this point I'm kinda waiting to see what ORBX does next before buying another photoscenery product. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for that info ... will be very interested to see how the two elements look together ..... re whether you can install Orbx airports free standing my hunch would be that you need the region installed ... 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And now I just came across a bunch of cities from Aerosoft or something like that. I think that is what I was looking for. Sure it's not the whole state but it appears to have tons of 3d buildings and structures around the cities which is really what I was looking for.

 

Now can I just install those and use them with FTX Global and payware airports or do I need to re-order the scenery in the scenery library or something? Or does trying to use those programs together cause issues?

 

You can install them together, BUT you will have visual issues with the boundaries between the photoreal and FTXGlobal when you transition from generic (FTXG) to photoreal. Also with the Aerosoft city sceneries, they have no night textures or seasons, so if you fly anytime other than summer/daytime, you will have visual issues. Also with the Aerosoft cities, many users have framerate issues since the buildings are very dense (the more 3D objects on your screen, the more it affects performance)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not a fan of photo scenery myself, I find it gives everything a flat and blurry look, great if your flying IFR at FL120 plus but everything looks bland after.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 Ho Hum .... just installed FTXG and hoped to see Orbx trees, houses etc. on top of my California photoscenery but no such luck ... any suggestions appreciated ....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

FTX Global only generates autogen, thus you won't see houses or trees.   You'll have to install an ORBX region or stick to default handplaced FSX objects.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not a fan of photo scenery myself, I find it gives everything a flat and blurry look, great if your flying IFR at FL120 plus but everything looks bland after.

 

Not really true. On a properly configured system with a good video card, photoscenery of sufficient resolution, no matter who makes it, can look as sharp at 1200ft as it does at 12,000 ft. It does look flat yes because it takes away autogen in most cases, but blurry at anything below FL120 is simply not true (see numerous screenshots by many here taken at well below that mark).

FTX Global only generates autogen, thus you won't see houses or trees.   You'll have to install an ORBX region or stick to default handplaced FSX objects.

 

FTX Global is actually a texture replacement package for FSX, and each texture tile has an associated autogen placement file for that tile, so it should indeed show houses and trees, unless some other package for the same area is disabling the autogen it adds.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

FTX Global will not show on top of photoscenery like MSE.  Only the FTX Regions have handplaced objects.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You can install them together, BUT you will have visual issues with the boundaries between the photoreal and FTXGlobal when you transition from generic (FTXG) to photoreal. Also with the Aerosoft city sceneries, they have no night textures or seasons, so if you fly anytime other than summer/daytime, you will have visual issues. Also with the Aerosoft cities, many users have framerate issues since the buildings are very dense (the more 3D objects on your screen, the more it affects performance)

 

Ah then there goes that idea. Thank you for that information.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites