Hey at least P3D2 seems to listen the first time when you finally get around to un-assigning everything you don't want assigned.

 

UNLIKE SOME OTHER SIMULATORS I KNOW

 

:lol:

Your last sentence summed up most of the "problem reports" that've been posted here and all over the World Wide Wasteland over the past few days!

 

For example, my habit has always been to place my throttles, prop and mixture controls full "off" when shutting down.

 

As a result, I never experienced the "zooming down the runway" that began this thread!

 

 

I'm glad that the user reporting the initial problem found out the cause of his error, and as he describes it, it was localized.  When I decide it's time to get P3Dv2, this is good news, because it's one less thing that I'll have to worry about.  I find your post about the World Wide Wasteland somewhat disdainful, however.   I use a lot of your own products, Bill, and while I like them a lot, I have yet to find one that didn't have aspects about it that I didn't feel could be improved, and one of which I stopped using altogether because it had demonstrable bugs, which, at the time, were shrugged off as "misguided user" when in fact they were not, by the company you were working for at the time.  So I'm not so inclined to write off the end user, or an attempt to defend the end-user, as simply "Dumb".    Sometimes the end user is wrong, and sometimes he isn't. 

 

Q_Flyer's assertion that one basically has little credibility commenting on P3D because one hasn't bought the product yet, btw, I find ludicrous, partly due to it's similarity with FSX, but especially since he himself also reported and "confirmed" the error that I subsequently reffered to as sloppy.

I find your post about the World Wide Wasteland somewhat disdainful, however.

So, you're one of those who believe everything posted on the Internet? (joke!)

 

Quite frankly there's a lot of absolute nonsense on the web, which is why I referred to it jokingly as the "World Wide Wasteland," which is nothing more than play on the initials "www."

 

You seem to take a lot of what other's write rather personally...

 

Of course products I've worked on have some bugs, anyone who claims that their code or products is "bug free" is either delusional or a bold-faced liar. Further, nothing I or anyone else produces will ever satisfy everyone. It's the nature of things. I do endeavor to fix those things I can fix whenever they are brought to my attention though.

Ok, I agree with most of that.  My point of view was that had this error been real, (and it looked like it was because enough people were reporting it, that it is hard to believe it was simply bad control mappings localized to the o.p's machine), I thought it would have been sloppy for it to have slipped through, and I've seen the situation before in FSX, so I know exactly what it means when a newly loaded plane is spooled up and surges into the gate.  Turns out this time, it was in fact "user error" on the people reporting it.

 

I'll admit that I'm a little sensitive to that term, and maybe because you happened to be the guy saying it, because I saw that refrain used too many times from the company that begins with an E (not necessarily spoken by you personally), or a too-frequent resort to RTFM, when we knew we had read it a dozen times, and we were doing things like they should be done. 

 

I guess you, me, and le Q can stop handing out retaliatory "dumb" ratings to each other now? :lol:

I find it amazing how defensive some folks are of this sim. Clearly for many of us there have been some real issues, issues not caused by us being idiots. I have flown every civil aviation sim since FS2, and I do think I can honestly make that claim. This release has been no different from any other. There are plenty of issues that need to be resolved. I frequently see flying houses, and I have the throttle bug. However,  I am confidant that most problems will be solved! But to categorize those of us with problems as members of the "World Wide Wasteland" seems typical of the attitude of many people who are desperate for P3D to be the ultimate, perfect sim. It isn't yet, and questioning the intelligence of those who say so isn't getting us anywhere.

So you're saying that it is real afterall, and not simply caused by having multiple controller axes marked to one throttle axis or by carelessly leaving ones throttles open????

 

Gheesh, I better get out of this thread before the sparks start flying! :lol:  Happy Holidays everybody!

I did in fact have two axes assigned to the throttle, but that was the default condition. And I am not talking about just that. there are plenty of issues, as there always are. Don't just assume that people who are having an issue are dumber than you. Feel free to leave if you like!

I did in fact have two axes assigned to the throttle, but that was the default condition. And I am not talking about just that. there are plenty of issues, as there always are. Don't just assume that people who are having an issue are dumber than you. Feel free to leave if you like!

 

Well, don't attack me, I was the one who was originally convinced that the error was indeed real based on the reports of others, but subsequently came of the view that it was user error because of the O.P's last post, which is again apparently not the full story     It sounds like P3D simply has a bad default state (and yes, I think somebody should have caught that prior to release, but I'm glad to hear the issue is understood now.  I believe we would call that a legacy FSX issue, since I'm pretty sure the same annoying thing happens in FSX)

 

I'm leaving the thread because I was called dumb for my view that it seems that P3D has some issues which really should have been caught prior to release, and this is not a popular view, so I'm not sure why you are attributing these assertions that you are a dope for experiencing them to me, since my own unpopular view appears to be exactly what you are arguing 

 

Gettin' it from all sides tonight!

I'm sorry, my mistake in calling you out. We actually agree 100%. My own stupidity (in this case :-P) was to blame for that.

But to categorize those of us with problems as members of the "World Wide Wasteland" seems typical of the attitude of many people who are desperate for P3D to be the ultimate, perfect sim. It isn't yet, and questioning the intelligence of those who say so isn't getting us anywhere.

If I had said anything remotely like that, I would have moderated myself!

 

Clearly, what I actually did say -and what was intended to be meant- was misunderstood.

Now, now, now children. If you don't stop fighting, there will be NO ice cream. :biggrin:

I have V2 and even after setting up a new default with the throttle set to 0 it still starts out throttle up!

It's a known bug and it's fixed in 2.05 :

http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=4373

 

I have V2 and even after setting up a new default with the throttle set to 0 it still starts out throttle up!

Holy necropost!