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Has anyone tried Drzewiecki grass?

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A 4096 detail1 is just asking for OOMs..  Default is 128x128, FTX Aero detail1's only push it to 1024x1024.. I can't see the benefit of 4096 detail1 except to take screenshots with.. 

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Totally agree with Bill (Styckx)...... 4096 grass?! ....... this obsession with high resolution is bonkers.   There is no need whatsoever to have 4096 grass.    When OOMs are the biggest problem (threat) that FSX has, why on earth make all grass in the sim 4096.....

 

I love Drzwiecki's sceneries, but this idea is just baaaaad!   :lol:

 

EDIT:       I posted above, believing this product to be payware, but fair enough it is freeware so at least people lose nothing in trying it.           but..... good luck with that!

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I might have tried some Drzewiecki grass back in the 70's when I lived in California. My memory of those days is somewhat (ahem ) "fuzzy" :)

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Regardless if its 4096, if you run 1024 or 2048 texture res, wont the grass texture simply display at that lower res, thus negating any performance penalties?

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I agree with Bill and Dave... / Marc, sure, you can have as many 4096 textures as you like but they will only be displayed at whatever your TextureMaxLoad is set at in the FSX cfg. However, if you run your TML higher than 1024 to take advantage of things like HD clouds in REX or some of the newer HD airports then that's when the additional 4096 grass textures will be an unnecessary load on your rig.

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Regardless if its 4096, if you run 1024 or 2048 texture res, wont the grass texture simply display at that lower res, thus negating any performance penalties?

 

Yeah I'd say that's right Marc, but as well as negating the performance penalty, you'd also be negating the HD of the grass.... making the whole exercise a bit pointless!   :smile:

 

Could be worth a try though maybe     - perhaps even limited to 1024, their grass texture will look better.

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Actually just because your TML is 2048, FSX still has to deal with the 4096 texture regardless. Nothing changes the fact it's still a 4096 texture. :biggrin:  You will get hit with the extra overhead weather FSX displays it as 2048 or 4096.. 

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edit

 

I cant imagine them releasing this if It didnt do absolutely anything at all except place an extra load on the system. 

 

They auto back up your files in the installer so its free and reversible. Not one to knock back good grass I will give it shot

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Higher res means more real.  Certainly don't understand the obsession with less detail... 

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I see no problem with having it as an option. If you don't want to use it, you don't have to. Perhaps there are some that don't often fly around memory-intensive scenery/areas who wouldn't mind having high resolution grass.

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I'm willing to try any kind of freeware, but I wish this didn't have an installer. If it's just a few textures I don't see why this couldn't be dispersed in file form. That's one reason I like avsim library freeware, they usually require manual installation so you know exactly what files are going where and can back them up if need be. It's always a question of "did the developer leave me a back-track method?" when using installers and sometimes they simply don't. In the case of textures, the installer would need to create backups. There's probably an uninstall option here with the grass, but I'm not certain, and I really don't feel like repairing the entire installation to replace a handful of grass textures that may or may not cause performance issues (i'm leaning toward 'may' right now).  

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Ethan you can always direct the installer away from FS to a folder on your desktop and install it there and then inspect the contents. there is a manual path below if you want  it that way and yes the back up file is where it should be on my system

 

 

Uninstall:

To restore to the original grass texture, simply navigate to

FS\Scenery\World\Texture\OriginalGrass and copy the

detail1.bmp file to FS\Scenery\World\Texture folder ("FS" is

your main FSX or Prepar3D folder).

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Thanks Zoran, no downside to trying it then. I also remembered I have a clone of my virgin FSX install on another drive in case all else fails. Will fly out of a default grass strip later tonight and give it a shot.

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Edit: I just realized that we can edit the detail1 texture in Photoshop once we know where it is. If I have performance issues on my PC I may downsize the texture to 1024px. Thought I'd mention it as an option for people that want good grass, but don't want something too potent. hehe (sorry, couldn't resist) (also sorry for creating a second post, I thought I was editing my first one, speaking of potent grass)

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this type of grass will bring your computer down, of course mileage may vary with different systems.  My advise, here is my code KISS, means???? Keept It Simple and  straight, no need for it..

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I don't know. I installed it yesterday, and completely forgot it was there although I have my res set to 2048. I've installed HD moon textures also, and noticed no performance penalties. If your computer is already struggling, it would probably be wise to stick with default.

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