Well,

sometimes we find an add-on that "makes your sim" worth everything :-)

 

I have found 1, actually 2 - The QPAC A320 and Peter's A321.

 

I can't really express the sensation of having finally met two airliners so well modelled in each and every respect.
Yes they both miss the fancy 3d cockpit views, but will be upgraded.

Yes they do not fully implement the various flight laws of an Airbus, their FMGS / FMGC are far from being complete,
but what they model they do it with a quality that I really can't find in any other airliner add-on, although the
SSG 747-8i is getting near and I also look forward for it!

 

There is also Peter's A380, another Masterpiece when it comes to FBW modelling, but it is even more limited in
systems modelling, and IMO need an upgrade, which I will gladly pay for!

 

Although the QPAC and Peter's versions are very similar, and based on the same plugins to implement the Airbus FBW,
the models are different in the way they were implemented.

 

I'd say I miss the popup MCDU in the QPAC version, and I miss the popup FPD, ND and pedestal in Peter's A321 :-)

The QPAC has additional features as I have already mentioned at another post such as:

 

- Station auto-tuning enroute;
- the chance to set P / B / D  waypoints;
- the chance to "jump" to the next waypoint ( or Max 100NM between current and next position ) if your in Cruise mode, with
precise calculation of fuel consumption
- the chance to define some functionalities through a separate MCDU menu,
such as the start mode you want for the aircraft

etc...

 

They're both BY FAR my preferred X-Plane 10 aircraft !

 

Some shots from an LPPT - ELLX flight here: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/432146-qpac-a320-basic-version/#entry2905469

 

Stepping to next waypoint, or Max 100NM from current POS:

 

 

Would you recommend getting them both? Which one would you choose if you had to? It sounds like the QPAC has a slight edge over Peters version? 

 

Also, do you know if one can get the coming versions by just paying the difference or do we have to buy the PRO version for full price later as well?

Like stated in another post, the true enthusiastic needs both! And don't ask about the fanatics! ;-)

I will ask about the upgrade policy for the QPAC.

 

Peter's A320/21 will get a very good 3d cockpit anytime soon, with additional features added to the cockpit. That's an advantage.

 

If I had to choose one, I would go fo the QPAC, because I really find the Premium version very promising.

 

The functionalities of the QPAC are already more, in it's Base version, than those of Peter's. I particularly like the popup FPD and ND / ECAM and the "jump to nect waypoint", among others...

I'll wait for the 3d cockpit first, as I use track IR.

Yep, I am really not an exigent guy when it comes to graphics :-/

 

A good / functional 2D panel will be more than good for me.  I love the PMDG 777, but I would probably use it in 2D if it came with a 2D panel :-)

 

For GA, or even a simulated glider, then I opt for the 3D panel / cockpit :-)

 

Being a long time user of ELITE helps too :-)

I will ask about the upgrade policy for the QPAC.

 

Peter's A320/21 will get a very good 3d cockpit anytime soon, with additional features added to the cockpit. That's an advantage.

 

If I had to choose one, I would go fo the QPAC, because I really find the Premium version very promising.

 

The functionalities of the QPAC are already more, in it's Base version, than those of Peter's. I particularly like the popup FPD and ND / ECAM and the "jump to nect waypoint", among others...

 

I went ahead and picked up QPAC A320 (man, I really need to stop buying aircraft..). Not having a 3D-cockpit was a bit unfamiliar at first. However the 2D panel is of good quality and I'm slowly getting used to it.

 

For some reason, though, I couldn't set V-speeds and cruise altitude on the INIT page. I entered the FL and it just vanishes. Am I missing something? 

The V-speeds have to be manually entered / calculated. I use a table I have for the real A320, or FSBuild.

 

The Cruise Alt should not be problematic? Can you give some shots?

 

I will only be able to take a few myself tomorrow :-/  I will post it here - an example of flight prep in the QPAC, which is pretty much the same in Peter's version...

The V-speeds have to be manually entered / calculated. I use a table I have for the real A320, or FSBuild.

 

The Cruise Alt should not be problematic? Can you give some shots?

 

I will only be able to take a few myself tomorrow :-/  I will post it here - an example of flight prep in the QPAC, which is pretty much the same in Peter's version...

 

I have no pics ATM, but Its really odd. I enter a desired CRZ on the INIT-page and for a split second the FL and temperature flashes but then disappears. 

The V-speeds have to be manually entered / calculated. I use a table I have for the real A320, or FSBuild.

 

The Cruise Alt should not be problematic? Can you give some shots?

 

I will only be able to take a few myself tomorrow :-/  I will post it here - an example of flight prep in the QPAC, which is pretty much the same in Peter's version...

jcomm,

Do you have .cfg and .PRF files for the QPAC for FSBUILD you could share? If not, which AC config are you using in FSBUILD? Thanks....

I'm using the default A320-231 w/ V2500-A1

Hi Jcomm,

 

How do these models compare to the JARDesign A320? I know that one would have more systems implemented but are these ones nicer to fly particularly if flying manually during takeoff and landing? I've always felt that the A320 NEO seems a bit 'off' when hand-flying.

 

Also, in their current state do they include managed CLD and DES modes? Or do you have to work out T/D yourself and use OP DES mode?

Michael, let's just say I have uninstalled the NEO...  I appreciate the graphics, the nice animations of cargo, fuel, pushback etc... I even appreciate the more detailled FMGC/MCDU, but, I don't really find the way it flies / simulates the Airbus FBW anyway near what Peter's A321/21 and the QPAC A320 offer.

I went ahead and picked up QPAC A320 (man, I really need to stop buying aircraft..). Not having a 3D-cockpit was a bit unfamiliar at first. However the 2D panel is of good quality and I'm slowly getting used to it.

 

 

 

For some reason, though, I couldn't set V-speeds and cruise altitude on the INIT page. I entered the FL and it just vanishes. Am I missing something?

 

 

Swe, here are some pics... Are you getting that weird behaviour when you follow these steps?

 

FMGC Init Page:

 

Getting a Route:

 

Setting the Cruise FL ( 370 in this case):

 

All set:

 

Inst Panel Brief:

 

 

MCDU Takeoff Page ( speeds and Flex Temp manually entered ):

 

Taking Off ( initial climb ):

 

:-):

Can the popups be displayed in other monitors? What other popups are available? Can you popup the MCDU and overhead? Is this the free version?