I'm getting very comfortable with planning and saving Flight Plans in PFPX for the 777...

 

However my confusion now comes from importing and Activating the Imported FP into the 777 FMC and getting the correct wind/TO and Landing numbers.

 

Is there a tutorial somewhere that picks up from the PFPX imported FP to getting all the numbers correctly set into the 777 FMC?

 

Thanks! 

Is there a tutorial somewhere that picks up from the PFPX imported FP to getting all the numbers correctly set into the 777 FMC?

 

The tutorial that came with the 777 is a good start, honestly.  It will clearly explain where you get your numbers for takeoff and landing, and where to enter them (and why).

 

I made a video to match it, here, since people like YouTube over printed material recently:

 

The way you pull in a PFPX flight plan is:

• RTE page
• Type in departure airport in ORIGIN (top left)
• Type in destination airport in DEST (top right)
• Click ROUTE REQUEST on the left (LSK 3L)
• Select the appropriate route

You can also just click ROUTE REQUEST as soon as you go to the RTE page, but adding in the departure and destination airports filters the available routes on the ROUTE REQUEST screen (if you don't enter the departure and destination fields, it will list every route you've ever exported from PFPX).

Great...

 

What about the winds aloft and temperature settings?

 

 

What about the winds aloft

 

Enter the averaged winds aloft for the cruise (not required - where you get this data depends on your weather add-on, or country - you can get it from the Flight Plan feature of Active Sky, or from a site like Aviationweather.gov).

 

 

 

and temperature settings?

 

Enter either the actual or ISA DEV temperature for the top of climb (not required - see above).

PFPX exports directly to the PMDG 777 format the WindAloft ready for the FMC Uplink. It works beautifully, just click on Export and select the PMDG 777 Wx

How about this one (two parts)?

 

http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/73453-pfpx-etops-pmdg777-a-short-guide-p1/

 

http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/73486-pfpx-etops-pmdg777-part-2-flightdeck/

Are any of you using UTOPIA Take Off Analyzer for the T7?

What about ASN and the Flight Plan weather data importing?   Or is this unnecessary with the PFPX PMDG 777 Wx export?

To get wind data in the FMC, I go to LEGS page and then I think it is RTE DATA > REQUEST and if PFPX has exported it correctly, it will pick up the predicted winds and temps.

 

Not sure if this is exactly right but seems to work.

OK so no import from ASN is necessary then?

The procedure I follow is - start ASN and let it download the weather. When ASN is idle I start PFPX and plan the flight. I then export the the plan to the 777 and Flight Simulator X Folder. I do not export any winds/temp aloft to the PMDG WX Folder from PFPX. I then load the plan into ASN which will automactically export it to the PMDG WX Folder. So I am flying with ASN winds/temp forecast for the plan. This will only work if you are going to start the flight within a couple of hours. If you plan your flight in advance (say 12 hrs) you need to export the winds from PFPX since ASN is the current conditions.

 

Michael Cubine

This is my way of thinking. In Real Life, they don't get 100% accuracy with the Wind Forecast, so why should we in our simulators?

 

So I consider PFPX Wind for FLight Planning, and it's the one I uplink to the FMC, and I fly using my Weather Engine Wind Aloft, in my case, OpusFSX. The difference shouldn't be much, but I think this adds a level of realism to the simulation, where the fuel isn't always going to burn exactly like you predicted, and you have to adapt to this situation. Find another FL, Fly Faster, Slower, etc.

 

In Real Life, they don't get 100% accuracy with the Wind Forecast, so why should we in our simulators?

 

What?!?!?  You mean pilots aren't always given perfect data???

 

Sadly, too many people don't realize what you've realized.

 

Too many simmers have this unrealistic expectation of, and obsession with, flying things by numbers and automation.

 

I get the impression from some of them that everything can be programmatically addressed, and there's a numerical justification for everything.  I think it still surprises a lot of them that the wind data from the reporting stations isn't perfect, either, among other things ("someone made me take off with a 3 knot tailwind on VATSIM!!!!" :rolleyes: )

From what I understand when SP 1 comes out I am able to create the flight plan in PFPX and export it to the 777 but not export the winds (Well you can export the winds but if you want them to update you use Active Sky), instead load the flight plan into Active Sky Next which will automatically make a .wx file for that route and put it in the PMDG WX folder. Once in the FMC I can request the route and the winds but Active Sky will automatically update the .wx file so if I request the winds again they should be updated to the latest winds.

Is this correct?

Cheers,

Chris

:31 PM

 

 

From what I understand when SP 1 comes out

 

 

Why don't you wait until SP1 and a maybe a new Tutorial come out. Anything now is just speculation. ASN winds aloft are a snapshot not forecasts like PFPX winds aloft. Kostas, a developer of ASN verified this fact in this thread with post #34http://forum.avsim.net/topic/442471-asn-and-pfpx-winds-aloft/page-2

I know this but ASN's snapshots are more accurate than PFPX's predictions, as well as ASN updates the .wx file so your getting the current weather rather than the prediction