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Captain Sim !! Did they "through the towel"?

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do you mean "throw in the towel"?Possibly, it does happen.Remember that CS is a Russian group and they're not used to having to support their users in the USSR.

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USSR! thats a blast from the past isn't it, the Union of Soviet Socialist Repubublics broke up years ago. As for Captain Sim who are in the Russian Rebublic (although still the bigest country in the world, it is a lot smaller than CCCP) their website is still going, with the support forum supossidly under construction.

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Of course the website is still there. After all it's the gateway to selling their products. (Funny how the credit card processing system ALWAYS works and is NEVER down). The point is that anyone who has bought/is buying their products is left to their own devices, since there's no support anymore. Captain Sim's fora were a great font of knowledge and tips from users (CS rarely bothered to "drop in"). All gone now. "Under construction" - under construction, my butt. I think that simmers need to start penalizing and punishing (by not spending their cash) these miserable fly-by-night outfits. ricardo

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Hello All, I remember, long ago, when CS was having lots of problems with it's codes and keys, they said when they decided to go out of business, they would supply the FS community with the keys to unlock their products so no one would be stuck with software they could not use . . . let us all hope that CS is still around and just regrouping to rise and create again . . . as none of us have seen those 'magic' codes yet.It's funny, but you would think that a simple little e mail or post to the web sites who promote their products would be easy enough.Best to all,Clayhttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...ers/Dopke01.jpgClayton T. Dopke (Clay)Major, USAF (retired)"Drac"

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that is still to be decided. There's strong indications that a massive deception operation to make the west believe the USSR had collapsed was being planned starting with Stalin himself...It all went too nicely, almost like it was choreographed carefully, and it still is.If the Russians are so strapped for cash to maintain their armed forces, then why are they deploying several types of new ICBMs in programs costing tens of billions of Euro?And how come the only equipment ever seen in derelict state is the old junk that was ripe for scrapping in 1990?

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Almost exactly two years ago I wrote about Captain Sim:* * * * * * * * *"(...) I've been following the CaptainSim hullabaloo with an eagle's eye, also partaking every now and then. The CS crowd publicly called many of their existing customers "betrayers", they publicly denied their future customers the right to comment on the CS customer treatment, they publicly called me (a potential future customer) a "racist", and in general did just about everything they could to alienate past, present and future clients as soundly and thoroughly as possible (...)"* * * * * * * * *Reading this thread has strengthened my opinion that one does well to give CaptainSim a wide berth. Their idea of customer relations ("Betrayer! Racist!") stank two years ago, and apparently it still stinks. I vividly remember the veiled treat they made: "We are Soviet ex-military, and we don't like customers who are betrayers". Well guys, if anybody walks up to me, identifies himself as soviet ex-military, and calls me a betrayer, I'll either whip out whatever useful means of defense I happen to have on me, or I run like hell. Probably both. Last year the Canadian government deported one of the CaptainSim crew back to his native country, east of where once the Iron Curtain hang. Good bloody riddance, and since the Canucks are not exactly of the obsessively deporting kind, they probably had a darn good reason to get rid of this particular "Soviet ex-military".Be well!Jaap Verduijn.

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Amazing how a thread on CS can degrade into something completely irrelavent and off topic. :(As a former CS beta tester, I found their communication severely lacking and their trust and support of the beta teams was dismal to say the least. If they transfer this very same lack of trust and support to the purchaser they have given themselves a very short rope on which to hang themselves.Cheers,JohnBoeing 727/737 & Lockheed C-130/L-100 Mechanichttp://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/ng_driver.jpg

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Oh boy... here we go again. Keep it nice boys. This thread could get shut down in a heartbeat otherwise.

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>do you mean "throw in the towel"?Hi Jeroen,Ofcourse I ment "Throw in the towel" :-) Sometimes I get kind of carried away,...sotospeak. :-lolTake care, Staffan AhlbergSweden/Stockholm/ESSAPMDG MD-11 Team - Beta testerhttp://www.scandicair.com/images/dc9_banner.jpg"I will come and cut your lawn for a high quality DC8-63 system"[/color]My specs are:Dell Dimension 4600 P4/3.0 Ghz1024 Mb DDR333 Dual channel memory (2x256,1x512)128 Mb ATI Radeon 9800 ProOmega 2590DirectX 9.0cW XP Home with SP1E171FPb Flat panel monitor 17"240Gb (2x120) 7200rpm HD

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>that is still to be decided. There's strong indications that>a massive deception operation to make the west believe the>USSR had collapsed was being planned starting with Stalin>himself...>>It all went too nicely, almost like it was choreographed>carefully, and it still is.>If the Russians are so strapped for cash to maintain their>armed forces, then why are they deploying several types of new>ICBMs in programs costing tens of billions of Euro?>And how come the only equipment ever seen in derelict state is>the old junk that was ripe for scrapping in 1990?>>ROFL, thanks for that, I had not laughed so hard for quite some time.

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Guest Ridge_Runner_5

Just Flight does :) Martin Wright and the team was showing it at the Conference...

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Guest Len

I just emailed them two weeks ago requesting a new key because I was reinstalling their 727 on my new system. Came back promptly with a new key. If they don't want a support forum that's their business. Most other software developers and publishers outside of the FS9 addon business don't so why should they? There's no inherent right to have a support forum. Don't buy their products if you don't like the lack of support forum. As long as they respond like they did with my request I have no problem with them.

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Trust "jwenting" :-roll to say something like that. If people would notice anything about it they would know that Captain Sim is based in Canada not Russia (main office is in Ontario) so to start bashing my mothering country is quite offensive, and it doesn't take alot of balls to say it on a forum, but say that to a Russian face to face and I doubt you would feel the same opinion ;)Fseevo Samava Luchsheva! (Best Wishes) http://www.x-plane.org/users/ilyushin/flagsjoined.jpgPROUD RUSSIAN CANADIAN!

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Well for the forum thing, why not just open up an unofficial one at one of the popular websites? There is even a flag for the Captain Sim forum here at Avsim that is currently unused.No-one ever said that the developers had to provide a forum. In fact, as Captain Sim hardly ever provided support in their forum - it was left mainly to the customers - why can't someone just start an unofficial forum?Of course, the reason why developers have their own support forum will then become clear - developers have no editing rights in someone elses forum.It is precisely this `fragility` of this almost invisible `company` that stops me being a Captain Sim customer again. When was the last time they attended a major sim or software show?Allcott

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All I know is I've never had a problem with Captainsim as a vendor of products I've bought nor in support of products. Plus, when I've done skins etc, they've voluntarily asked me to beta test products such as their Yak3, 707 and F-104. Seems like a good group to me. However, Im assuming some others have had problems etc. So I will wait and see.Im hoping these excellent developers return in full form!!!Tom, please let this thread run a little. People are passionate about CS because their quality is great...but their situation is precarious apparently. Some latitude here is good to get the full story.RegardsEric

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>but say that to a Russian face to face and I doubt you>would feel the same opinion ;)I would. I could say face to face to any Russian that their beloved Putin is a new czar, they could have saved themselves a lot of grief and blood by not lunching the 1917 Revolution and kept the czar they already had ;-) I thought jwenting's post was actually quite funny. Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2

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Guest Pabra

I hope they're working on the "legendary dc9". A perfect one vc wise is still missing in my hangar. I bought the 727 via justflight on cd; none of that activation stuff. Work like a charm..

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Hi,On the avsim.ru site (a not very active site) via an automatic Russian-English translator :Captain Sim invitesDate: 09.11.2004 18:48International company Captain Sim with branches in Canada, Moscow and Kiev is engaged in development, publishing house and support of computer games (Flight Simulators) since 1999. We invite to constant well paid work at our new Kiev office of talented and skilled experts on posts:THE SENIOR PROGRAMMER, TEKSTURSHCHIK-MODELIST.THE SENIOR PROGRAMMERRequirements:* Excellent knowledge With ++, XML* Knowledge of technical English languageIt is desirable:* Aviation formation* Skills web programming* Experience of participation in projects on manufacture of computer games* Acquaintance with MSFSThe resume send to the address: hr@captainsim.com_____________________________________________________________________TEKSTURSHCHIK-MODELISTRequirements:* Knowledge 2D and 3D editors (Photoshop, 3Dmax or Gmax - it it is necessary)* Presence of abilities and the experience, allowing to create photorealistic structures and exact models.It is desirable:* Aviation formation* Experience of participation in projects on manufacture of computer games* Acquaintance with MSFSThe test task will be given to candidates.The resume send to the address: hr@captainsim.com------------------------------------------------------Are they expanding or replacing?hm

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Guest pez_man

Well, Kiev that's the Ukraine isn't it... Guess calling an Ukrainian Russian is about as popular as calling a Norwegian Swedish! ;-)BTW, that Russian conspiracy is a funny idea! Has anyone seen the hilarious Simpsons episode where they present that theory? Lenin suddenly rises from his tomb, Must...destroy...capitalism! Grrr..http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/104593.jpg(Well, this was a clever contribution to the thread wasn't it?!)rgrds fredrik

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What is the bottom line on that 707 they are now selling. It sure looks sweet, but I have not really heard much about it on the forum. Is it a go or a no go in terms of a purchase in most of your minds? What are the negatives about it?RH

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