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How's the Alabeo C195?

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I can't make any comment about frames. Never, ever look at them. All I can say is that the 195 is as smooth as anything else in my collection. :smile:

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Extremely pleased I bought this one - great model inside and out with amazing textures, great sounds and great frame rates. Have just flown it for the first time from Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island (new addon airport for me from Simaddons) and I was actually getting frame rates in the 40s - 60s both in spot view and in the VC at the airport and up into the 80s over the Canadian wilderness with everything (apart from water effects maxed out), so perhaps you need to look at your FSX platform again Jackson!

 

Yes, it is a bit of a 'slippery' aeroplane to fly but a lot of aircraft of that era were and as I understand this is quite close to reality in terms of the 195. And don't worry Ron, I still haven't managed a three pointer other than as a crunching stall from about 6 feet above the runway but a bit more practice and I am sure I'll get there! This reminds me of my first few real world attempts to land a Beagle Terrier many eons ago!!

 

Bill

Further to my theory about wrong trim wheel animation. Bernt Stolle PMed me and asked me to do some tests on the C195. I did the tests with default loadout and the trim wheel set at default. (in the middle) I then took some screens of 1. The tail wheel coming off the runway. 2. Lifting off and 3. Climbing out. All with no yoke input.

Bernts reply:

From Bernt Stolle:

Hi Ron,

 Thanx for testing :)  If you have only little fuel on board and if you don't pull the wheel back to maintain the climb speed of around 80mph, she will accelerate way above that speed and afterwards she will of course pull up steeply on her own to regain the trimmed speed, so she will naturally become way too slow in that process.

As most simpilots tend to fly with full tanks, neutral trim with the default loadout and full fuel will result in a hands off climb speed of around 75-80mph.

Please note that the 195 isn't know for her pleasant handling characteristics. .e.g stable in pitch but very sensitive at the same time (a typical 'feature' is a plane tends to be tail heavy), lots of adverse yaw, very slippery (hence the weird flaps)

I've tried a high speed run with the worst possible (aft) CG but there was still some nose down trim left.

So I can't really confirm that there's something wrong with trim animation.

BTW, IRL as well, once you get to know the plane and your own preferences, you will adjust the trim for take off to your own liking. Some like to retrim after take off, some don't etc etc.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask :)

 Best regards

 Bernt


From me:

Bernt, I find that very reassuring. To sum up then, using a lot of nose down trim is my way of expressing MY preference in the aircraft's handling? Do you mind if I quote you when I make a post to this effect?

From Bernt:

Correct. Don't forget that IRL you have two problems.

1. The 195 is a taildragger and can stand on its nose, so IRL most pilots will tend to keep the tail low on take off to avoid a prop strike, especially as the POH mentions to keep the tail low.

 2. After unstick you have to pull initially to keep the speed from increasing too much. The more nose down trim on take off, the more pull is needed.

IRL this required pull might be rather heavy, which isn't a nice thing if the pitch axis is very sensitive as overcontrol might result.

 3. On the other hand there are pilots who don't want to push the controls at all, so they keep their planes always trimmed nose heavy to avoid having to push at all.

 4. During high speed flight you need that much nose down trim because I programmed a decrease in trim effectiveness with increasing speed to make it possible to fly the 195 trimmed out level by providing a fine trim control. (and the smaller the travel the finer the trim)

 

 

Do you mind if I quote you when I make a post to this effect?


 No problem at all.

 Best regards

 Bernt


Make what you will of that. All I can say is that it looks like that is the way the beast behaves and as pilots we should come to terms with it!

I wonder if, as simpilots, we tend to want aircraft to behave the way we want them to behave rather than as they DO behave.

Discuss.

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  • 1 month later...

Hi simmers,

I have been trying to follow the startup in the manual and one of the points mention 'Set elevators to the Take-off Position'.  Does this control lock the yoke for take-off or is the yoke just manually moved to control the elevators as we would normally do.  Is there a key or lever for this?  Thanks for any help on this, please!

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Nope, pretty sure they mean normal elevator movement. No special key or lever or movement for it that I've seen.

Bought it and I really enjoy it. Also, I've noticed Alabeo is taking a bit more care lately and put out aircraft without immediately releasing an sp to fix something silly haha.

Thanks fellows

I guess I was looking for a step that really wasn't needed.

Good to go, Thanks.....

  • 4 weeks later...

Just completed my first two flights in this beauty, after falling in love with her after seeing her everywhere in screenshots. Ron, thanks for posting the information about the flight model, I love the suitably retro fly by the seat of your pants feeling you get in the C195.Pretty realistic for me and a refreshing change after the comparative safety of the A2A Cherokee. Now if only I could nail a 3 point landing!

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