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Voice recognition problem v2

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Still some speech recognition problems, after the methodes seen on the manual and those you guys gave me. FS2Crew has more than a hard time to recognise when I say "Climb" or "Before" and my main and biggest recognition problem is when I say "On". I need major Help ! :excl: :mad:

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Hi Brandon,

 

Assuming there's nothing wrong with your microphone, you should easily be getting over 90 percent accuracy.

 

We have Japanese people who don't speak English as a first language getting good results.

 

1. Run the Microsoft Voice Training again.

 

2. Use this method:

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/372413-the-new-way-to-train-the-speech-recognizer-for-specific-words-like-auto/

 

3. Check your microphone... maybe it's got a problem.  Sometimes users use those mics built into their laptops...  not good... you'll want to use a headset... you'll want to keep the mic away from your speakers.

 

4. Try speaking with an American style accent.

 

 

Cheers,

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While parked at the gate, just practice saying the various phrases you're having trouble with until you see in the Green Bar.

 

You don't even need to fly to practice. 

 

Also note that "Climb" or "Before" is not accept accepted by itself.

 

You'd have to say the phrase as single phrase as described in the tutorial:

 

"Flaps Zero, I A S 1 85, Climb Checklist to the Line".

 

You'd need to say the whole phrase.  Not just "climb".

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While parked at the gate, just practice saying the various phrases you're having trouble with until you see in the Green Bar.

 

You don't even need to fly to practice. 

 

Also note that "Climb" or "Before" is not accept accepted by itself.

 

You'd have to say the phrase as single phrase as described in the tutorial:

 

"Flaps Zero, I A S 1 85, Climb Checklist to the Line".

 

You'd need to say the whole phrase.  Not just "climb".

Bryan I Would never say climb and before without saying the full sentence. I said "before takeoff checklist" and it did not recognized that. Had to say "before takeoff checklist to the line". and after the takeoff checklist there are 2 things that pops up " <Takeoff Proc>" which when I call for that nothing happens but I thinks that's normal if I remember correctly and "climb" that also appears in the little box which when I also call for that it doesn't respond.

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Bryan I Would never say climb and before without saying the full sentence. I said "before takeoff checklist" and it did not recognized that. Had to say "before takeoff checklist to the line". and after the takeoff checklist there are 2 things that pops up " " which when I call for that nothing happens but I thinks that's normal if I remember correctly and "climb" that also appears in the little box which when I also call for that it doesn't respond.

 

Hi Brandon,

 

You're misunderstanding the system, but don't worry, once you understand the system it's easy as pie.

 

What you see written in the FS2Crew Main panel, like 'Climb' or 'Takeoff Proc', those are FS2Crew Modes only.  You don't say them.

 

Please read the tutorial again.

 

What you need to say is written in Red text (when it comes to checklists and commands).

 

http://www.support.fs2crew.com/help/manuals/#pageid=flows4

 

 

Cheers,

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I'm sorry to bring up the bad news but the only thing that My fs2crew understands when I say "On" for like Fasten Seatbelts sign "On" is "Arm". It can clearly understand "one" but not "on" And I've tried all methods

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"ON" can be very difficult to get the speechrecogniation to recognise, very often it will be taken as "ARM". In the NGX it's possible to use "SET" which is much more easy for the speechrecognition to handle, as an alternative. Perhaps something to be considered for the DASH.

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I'm English and I can never get it to recognise 'on' either, was the same in the NGX. I tried it in an American accent (or what I thought was an American accent!) Every time it recognises it as arm! I just use skip most of the time now but I will keep trying too!

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Hi Bryan! I had similar issue with the ON/ARM recognition with NGX and I could not fix it on my end until a patch issued from your side. Now the ON stub is back on the Q400. I was unable to complete the checklists having ON as an answer, and the whole experience gets a bit broken. 

 

On the same note I would like to make a suggestion:

Sometimes there are checklist responses not being recognized, no matter how hard we try. Could you implement the NEXT ITEM (or just NEXT) command option (available with the NGX) so we can skip to the next checklist item? This way if we get stuck somewhere on the checklist we can continue without wasting too much precious time (especially when VATSIM UK ATC are waiting ^_^ ). Thanks!

 

[EDIT] I just noticed couple of posts above you mention the SKIP command. I guess that's the same what I was looking for. Should have looked in the manual more carefully...

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Hi Martin,

 

Yes, you can use "skip", and on works fine with my accent.

 

As for "on", it's written in the speech grammar file exactly like this:

 

<p>on</p>

 

Maybe I could also include a variation like this:

 

<p>hone<p>


Please send me a support ticket if "on" is not detected by your accent.

 

I want you to test "hone".... see if that works better with some of your accents.

 

Cheers,

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I had problems with "ON" and "ARM" and fixed them by training Windows Speech Recognition with those specific words.

 

One of the ways you can do this is to use the Windows speech dictation function in a word processor and then say "correct" every time it misunderstands the word/phrase, it soon learns the difference.

 

There are other word/phrase specific training methods detailed elsewhere in the FS2Crew forums.

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I had problems with "ON" and "ARM" and fixed them by training Windows Speech Recognition with those specific words.
 
One of the ways you can do this is to use the Windows speech dictation function in a word processor and then say "correct" every time it misunderstands the word/phrase, it soon learns the difference.
 
There are other word/phrase specific training methods detailed elsewhere in the FS2Crew forums.

 

 

That's what I've been telling people to do for ages with these types of situations.

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Bryan, perhaps you should outline in the manual how to train Windows speech recognition with specific words (if you've not already done so, I only skimmed the manual this time as I've used other FS2Crew products for some time and the Q400 edition is working very nicely for me) or a forum sticky?

 

Folks might not read it initially but at least you can refer them to or copy-paste from a specific page in the manual or sticky post.

 

Edit: For the benefit of others, here is a link to Bryan's post about how to add specific words to the voice recognition dictionary

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/372413-the-new-way-to-train-the-speech-recognizer-for-specific-words-like-auto/?p=2353645

 

There is also an alternative technique using the "correct that" function when dictating in to word processors, which I detailed briefly in my previous post and Bryan outlined in the FS2Crew Voice Control manual FAQ (I hope you won't mind me copy and pasting that here, Bryan):

Speech recognition is having problems detecting certain words. Can I train the speech recognition system for "specific" words? Solution:
1. Yes, you can use the dictation facility in Windows.

2. First, start 'Windows Speech Recognition' (this is not the FS2Crew Speech Recognition system, but rather the speech recognition system that comes with Windows).

3. Open a text document.

4. Next, dictate a list of words you are having trouble with.

5. Every time the speech recognizer makes a mistake, use the "CORRECT THAT" voice command. This effectively train the speech recognition engine to recognize how you pronounce these words. You may need to dictate and correct the same words multiple times until the recognition rate improves

Using either of the above techniques should avoid the need to impersonate an American.

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Bryan, perhaps you should outline in the manual how to train Windows speech recognition with specific words (if you've not already done so, I only skimmed the manual this time as I've used other FS2Crew products for some time and the Q400 edition is working very nicely for me) or a forum sticky?

 

Folks might not read it initially but at least you can refer them to or copy-paste from a specific page in the manual or sticky post.

 

Edit: For the benefit of others, here is a link to Bryan's post about how to add specific words to the voice recognition dictionary

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/372413-the-new-way-to-train-the-speech-recognizer-for-specific-words-like-auto/?p=2353645

 

There is also an alternative technique using the "correct that" function when dictating in to word processors, which I detailed briefly in my previous post and Bryan outlined in the FS2Crew Voice Control manual FAQ (I hope you won't mind me copy and pasting that here, Bryan):

Using either of the above techniques should avoid the need to impersonate an American.

I've done that loads of times and I'm farely smart to knowhow to google and look for information on how to make my accent sound better but it clearly and will never work, all it's hearing it's "arm" instead of "on" so I'm going to try and test the "hone" thing and see if it works, I'm also going to try and send a ticket so that I could have more support. Please next time keep in mind that some of us have tried everything, and I mean everything before posting what not sort of feedback.

 

Cheers mates. Will give you feedback on the "hone" thing Bryan.

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I also have problems with differentiating between arm and on (I am English).

 

I have used the "add to dictionary technique" which seemed to work successfully when tested in notepad, but still have problems when used in the sim.

 

Could it be that the processor is so busy with FSX that it struggles to allocate sufficient resource to the word recognition? (I admit that I am not an expert in this, but I see that my FSX CPU is bouncing off 100%, is it possible to allocate the speech recognition task to another CPU?)

 

Could changing arm to armed be another option? The D on the end may help the recognition aspect? 

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I doubt that.

 

I'll add "Armed" as an option in V1.3.

 

Cheers,

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Thanks Byan for 'the on/arm stuff' for V1.3... I'll give a try with the word processor technique and 'correct that' this weekend... so far impossible to recognize on with FS2crew.

 

I hope when I say hone the FO won't push the horn button...

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Thanks Byan for 'the on/arm stuff' for V1.3... I'll give a try with the word processor technique and 'correct that' this weekend... so far impossible to recognize on with FS2crew.

 

I hope when I say hone the FO won't push the horn button...

 

In 1.3, you can used "Armed" ... note the 'd'.... and "hone".... I tried said 'on' with a fake British accent and it detected fine as "hone".

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