February 9, 200521 yr HiI recently discovered a Cessna 140 on floats by B. Gladden which has become my favourite aircraft in terms of flight dynamics. On my system (including autorudder and a joystick!) it flies exactly to my taste.What is people's favourite aicraft for flight dynamics?ThanksP
February 9, 200521 yr I have 4 planes that I think are very good. BTW, for me, flight dynamics is the top priority. It may be pretty with all the systems, but if it don't fly properly, I don't like it. In no particular order: PMDG 737, Aero Commander(free), Lockheed Constellation (free), and the Aeroworx B200 King Air. Mike
February 9, 200521 yr Flight Dynamics as in "easy to fly" or FLIGHT DYNAMICS as in accurate to the behaviour of the real aircraft POH?For "easy to fly" - Mitchell Ultrawing (you could land it on a washing-line)For ACCURATE flight dynamics (ie relating to realworld POH)Wings Of Power Avro Lancaster (fantastic!)RealAir SF-260 (very sexy)PMDG 737NG (where's my epaulettes?)RegardsAdamAdam Moorewww.simreview.co.ukWin XP - ARIA 3200PCPrescott 3.20 GHz - 2GB RAMAsus ATi Radeon X800 Pro TD 256MB19" CRT 1600x1200 @ 100hzAudiophile 24/96 Audio
February 9, 200521 yr There are too many to mention, but the Dreamfleet Archer has always been one of my favorite planes to fly. ------------------------- Craig from KBUF
February 9, 200521 yr Miltons Aerocommander series have some awesome flight dynamics which are nicely "tuned" for hand-flying, couldnt tell if they were 100% realistic or not, but they are good enough for me.Also the F1 ATR is pretty good to.Dan.
February 9, 200521 yr There is tons of mention on the forum regarding "flight dynamics" and I often wonder if we are all talking about the same thing. To me it means that the aircraft flies as close to the numbers (POH) as possible. As for ease of hand flying, a lot of times that relates to how well the aircraft can be trimmed in FS. Some of them seem to be very easy and others react with wild swings with just a small input from the trim adjust. Mark CYYZ
February 9, 200521 yr Flight Dynamics is a tricky description as it means different things to different people.For me it means "realism" how all that code ends up giving an acccurate impression and flavour of flying the real thing.But its more than just the numbers its how all the aspects of the way the aircraft is presented all combine and harmonise with each other.How the panel is displayed, how accesable the operating systems are ?One great test is to hand fly an IFR procedure. Departure, Cruise approach and Ils. can you handfly to IFR tolerances and operate all the sytems and nav at the same time?My choices are PMDG 737, Aeroworx B200 and of course the Spitfire for aeros ;-)Peter
February 9, 200521 yr RealAir SF260, because this is my favorite type of aircraft (as in sliding canopies), as well as having flown one. The Dreamfleet ArcherII, that duplicates the real one so wellAnd the RealAir Spitfire for being so intensly "fun"! I really like to kick a lot of rudder!L.Adamson
February 9, 200521 yr My favorite is the Flight 1 ATR. A close second is the PMDG737 ( maybe it's almost a tie :) ) The last is the FZDIZGNS Constellation. Don't really enjoy flying anything else.
February 9, 200521 yr That's a good point about needing a definition; so I'll give mine :-) By good flight dynamics I expect the plane to be close to the numbers, not exact. This is mainly because the way FS does the modeling will not let it get as close as, say, x-plane, does. But if it's within 5-10% I'm ok. More importantly, for me is how it actually handles. The first thing I do with a new plane is repeat the usual PPL lesson manuvers: steep turns; stalls: clean, dirty, power on/off; slow flight configuration. If its a multi engine I always pull a throttle back and see what happens. By this point I have a fairly good feel, and then I do a hand flying IFR approach. Doing all of these usually reveals any funky behavior fairly quickly. Mike
February 9, 200521 yr The quality of flight dynamics is how well a synthetic plane emulates a real plane. Perhaps the only people who can provide a valid opinion are pilots who have flown the plane or aeronautical engineers who design them. I am always very dubious when I see a response to the offered question that says it "flies well for me" or something along those lines. I respect the opinions of only very few people in the simming community. You heard from one of them - Larry Adamson. Another approach is to only use aircraft from designers who have, in the past, demonstrated that they know how to create flight as close as is possible in FS2004. Here, amongst several, Rob Young comes to mind. He offers, through RealAir a free Cessna 172. I do not have the foggiest how a Cessna 172 should perform beyond some numbers in a POH. I do have full confidence that the RealAir 172 is the best possible emulation of this particular aircraft for FS2004. Rob has received strong appluase for his work in flight dynamic emulation. There are a few others that have equal respect. Remember that a tube of toothpaste flies well in FS2004 if you attach the proper cfg and air files to it. X-Plane, mentioned above, flies based upon the actual emulation of the physical model. Unfortunately, while the flight dynamics are very good, from qualified designers, the outside world is so poor that the illusion of flight is seriously harmed.Dick Boley @KLBE regards, Dick near Pittsburgh, USA
February 9, 200521 yr Hands down, Australian Simulation's Piper Warrior. It performs right on the numbers, and has a fantastic VC with smooth gauges.http://www.aussim.com.au/piper/default.htm
February 9, 200521 yr Simulator flight modelling has improved tremendously over the last few years. For the first time ever, it's possible to get a great simulation of almost any type of aircraft you want (with some exceptions... I think current seaplane and helicopter flight modelling leaves a lot of room for improvement).With all that's available, it's difficult to choose, but my current favorites - the planes that keep me wide-eyed in amazement - are:RealAir's Spitfire, Scout, Decathlon, and SF-260MAAM's B-25 and R4DDreamfleet's B727Bill Lyons' Travel Air and Tiger MothIt's a great time to be flight-simming. I remember enjoying the experience of flying a stick-framed C182 on a Macintosh SE with a 7 inch black and white screen and keyboard flight controls. Believe it or not... it really did help me with my real world flight training, but as far as flight modelling went, suffice to say that there was no point in attempting a flare. So starting up MAAM's B-25, rotating to takeoff attitude early in the ground roll and then waiting as it accelerates to liftoff speed is almost a religious experience for me. To say nothing of cruising over 38m mesh with FScene textures, through an Active Sky weatherscape, and sideslipping into a crosswind landing at an airport filled with AI traffic. It just blows my mind!Ken
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