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Prepar3d ATC alternatives?

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What do you guys use as an ATC replacement? I've used default ATC on FSX and P3D forever now, and I'm ready to try something better. I've looked at VoxATC, Radar Contact, and PRO-ATC/x but I don't know what ATC replacement is best for P3D? What do you guys like the best?

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I would recommend Vox ATC as it is the most advanced to date and it supports Prepar3d platform.You should search the forum instead of creating repetitive topics.It's not that hard to think for yourself it all depends what do you want it for VFR or IFR flights.But if you're a beginner and you mostly use GA airplanes for flying then Vox is best suited for you.

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Vox Atc hands down, I ve used all 3 that you mention. Pro Atc is not a finished product, and the supposed update is now over a year in coming, so stay away for now. RC is good, but lacks a few features like sid/star assignment and is no longer in development. I really like vox atc, it s P3d compatible, and has lots of features, and works great with ai, including my traffic 3d.

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You should search the forum instead of creating repetitive topics.It's not that hard to think for yourself it all depends what do you want it for VFR or IFR flights.

 

That was quite rude. I do know how to search the forum, and think for myself, and I did both. I did not find a recent post that answered my specific question. I am also more of a newby than most of the people on this forum, so I thought I would ask since there are people with more flight sim experience than me here. 

 

I really appreciate the answer, however, and I am going to try Vox.

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I highly recommend PilotEdge.  http://www.pilotedge.net

 

It's a paid service with live controllers using real world procedures and frequencies.  They offer a free trial period.

 

I've been a subscriber to their service for about 2 years now, and can't say enough good things about it!

 

   Gavin

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Don't buy Pro-ATC/X, it's definitely not worth 50€ at it's current state. Beside that, a working in future versions of P3D isn't guaranteed and the developer is not directly communicating with customers.

 

Sebi

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PFE has just been updated to v.2.15 and works with P3d

 

I'm not familiar with this one. 

 

Would it be a good choice for someone like me who mostly flies small GA?

 

How is it better than the default ATC (in regards to use with small GA)?

 

Do you have a link to any review of v.2.15 or to the software?

 

Thanks!

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@Arwen: The advantage with PFE is that you have more voices and is better if you fly in Europe because of the many accents it has.

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You should search the forum instead of creating repetitive topics.It's not that hard to think for yourself

 

Can't you just help someone without trying to be insulting?  How about, "Welcome to AVSIM, let me show you some great features of AVSIM that may help you answer some of your questions." By the way, the search function doesn't always give you comprehensive results. There have been many times I have used it, been disappointed, then happen across a thread that never came up in my search. It blows my mind why people have to be so rude to folks who just are asking for help. That's what these forums are for. Plus, his question is a legitimate one being these programs are not inexpensive. 

 

To the OP: RC4 is a good, solid ATC add-on. It's somewhat outdated as some of the real world terminology has changed over the past few years (e.g. in the US, the instruction to  "line up and wait" has replaced "taxi into position and hold," which is still used in RC4), but I think it handles fights solidly overall.  The developer also has discontinued development of a new version for personal reasons but support here at AVSIM is still active. You can also get an enhanced voice package by Meatwater in the library (which you can access from the front page of AVSIM). Lastly, RC4 gives you the choice of integrating real world recordings of ATC in the background if you want that sort of thing. I just listen to my airport of interest on LiveATC, which I have going in the background. Welcome to AVSIM and enjoy P3D! It's a great sim.

 

Todd

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@Arwen: The advantage with PFE is that you have more voices and is better if you fly in Europe because of the many accents it has.

 

Hi Alex - so just to confirm, PFE can be used like the default ATC (e.g. without requiring setup of a flightplan each time)? If that's the case, that's the simple solution I've been hunting for...

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@ twarell: I'm sorry I didn't mean to be rude..It's just that I see so many topics like 'where is your 777 now?' that have nothing to do with support and distract us from people like m0kn0r that really need our help.So I apologize again because I thought he was one of those 'kids' that have nothing to do with their lives and dream about how great their NGX is.

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Does VoxATC *require* the use of voice commands, or does it have a menu option? I know that sounds silly, given that voice recognition is its main selling point, but my family will probably think I'm weird talking to my PC all the time :). I have searched for this, but couldn't find an answer.

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Does VoxATC *require* the use of voice commands, or does it have a menu option? I know that sounds silly, given that voice recognition is its main selling point, but my family will probably think I'm weird talking to my PC all the time :). I have searched for this, but couldn't find an answer.

Not necessary.You also have the option of giving comms to the co-pilot from the very beginning and let him get the clearance and the taxi instructions all the way to the end of the flight.So you don't have to speak all the time there is some flexibility:)

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Thanks - good to know.

 

I'll probably try VoxATC, as it seems to be the only regularly updated ATC addon, and I'm tired of the default ATC's zig-zag instructions and total lack of awareness of SIDs/STARs.

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I've used VOXATC for several years now and have found it to be the one addon I wouldn't do without.  It has a new feature called "Expert Mode" that is handy for actual communications training.  In "regular" mode" VOX puts words on the screen which you speak back to the ATC "controller."  The readback must be exactly what the on-screen prompt says or you get a "say again" response from ATC.  In expert mode VOXATC doesn't give you the on-screen prompts to read back. You have to write  down the ATC instructions on paper, then give a readback that is correct.  If not correct, you get a "say again" from ATC.  Very handy learning tool if you want to reinforce training for your license, go into VATSIM or IVAO in FSX, or try Pilot Edge, which is as close to real as you can get.  

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The readback must be exactly what the on-screen prompt says or you get a "say again" response from ATC

 

Really? Last time I tried the demo I could cough without uttering a single word and after the second cough would inform me the readback was correct or something similar.

Has it changed then in the last 12 months or so?

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Both pilot edge and Vox. I like pilot edge for its complex south california space, tower en route experience and the added unpredictable factor in how flight can unfold. I'm relatively new to Vox but quite pleased with the product up to now.

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VOX traffic is so bad. Want to fly with 20 747s flying around you? Get VOX ATC.

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I'm not familiar with this one. 

 

Would it be a good choice for someone like me who mostly flies small GA?

 

How is it better than the default ATC (in regards to use with small GA)?

 

Do you have a link to any review of v.2.15 or to the software?

 

Thanks!

If you want to see PFE in action go here:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94xXG5EC6d0

 

This the Super VC10 in FS9. You'll hear PFE kick in after the pre-flight checks.

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Thanks for sharing that video, PFE looks intriguing, but the VC10 isn't a small GA aircraft, so it didn't answer most of my above questions.

 

I have installed some Orbx scenery, and some of it actually enhances the default ATC a bit, but it adds more AI chatter ... all of which is great, but it doesn't actually change the core ATC at all (or not much).

 

My biggest issue with the ATC is that when I'm flying a small GA and have filed an IFR flight plan that includes a mountainous area, the ATC often instructs me to fly higher than my aircraft is capable of. For instance, A2A's C172 has a ceiling of about 14,000 feet, yet I might be instructed to climb to 17,000 feet (over and over again, since my aircraft cannot reach that elevation).

 

I have yet to find any addon ATC that factors in my aircraft's maximum ceiling.

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I highly recommend PilotEdge.  http://www.pilotedge.net

 

It's a paid service with live controllers using real world procedures and frequencies.  They offer a free trial period.

 

I've been a subscriber to their service for about 2 years now, and can't say enough good things about it!

 

   Gavin

 

I will second this.  It took me a bit to get it working on P3D but Keith posted new instructions and once I did that I was able to use it.  I like the practice element and as it translates to real flying so if that's what you're looking for then check out their free trial. If you want to fly over the world instead of in a particular airspace then it wouldn't be the best option for you.

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PilotEdge now has native support for P3D in the installer.

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