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I ditched out of the "scene" at P3D v2 initial release.. I couldn't tolerate all the bugs.. I skipped P3D 2.1 and finally installed v2.2..  

 

Couple things.

 

The Windows 8 Jotystick disconnect is STILL not fixed? How is this possible through two point releases? Annoying having to spend my first 15 minutes installing and mapping my hardware to FSUIPC again. 

 

Second.. Am I crazy or is the blurries problem worse than it was with FSX now? I remember with v2 initial release the blurries were rare, and completely able to be controlled.  Spare me the AffinityMask stuff. Been there..  Done it.. Know it like the back of my hand. Same with the Fiber Frame garbage.. The blurries are just a constant. Anyone who remembers me knows I'm sensible and don't slide everything right.. Been around since Prepar3D 1.4 was released and know with each version the settings in P3D are not even close to the same as FSX..  I'm running a Vanilla setup with a couple Carenado props..  No addon scenery or any of that jazz. 

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For me, affinity mask = 15 on an i5-3570K (4 core - no ht) = No blurries.  My only tweak now and I am enjoying the flying.

 

LM says that next version/patch will turn on all cores by default and then I will not need the affinity tweak.

:rolleyes:

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What kind of a GPU you running?  I find a lot of folks here playing with very outdated stuff.

 

Jim

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You can click My PC under my avatar and see.. 

 

Yep.. Tried AF 15, 14, 84, and 85, and Vanilla.. No dice.. Garbage blurry textures taking 9000 years to load...  I refuse to go down redundant tweaking boulevard again. I can't believe in 2014 this stupid engine still doesn't run correctly out of the box.   Will probably just delete it again until someone codes it for people who actually just want to install and fly..   Enough of the Tweaking Simulator..  

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Try XP10 -sometging different

 

I run all three sims with FSX as my primary.

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You can click My PC under my avatar and see.. 

 

Yep.. Tried AF 15, 14, 84, and 85, and Vanilla.. No dice.. Garbage blurry textures taking 9000 years to load...  I refuse to go down redundant tweaking boulevard again. I can't believe in 2014 this stupid engine still doesn't run correctly out of the box.   Will probably just delete it again until someone codes it for people who actually just want to install and fly..   Enough of the Tweaking Simulator..  

 

Put this in the beginning of your virgin p3d.cfg file - your ram is quite low and your not running an ssd - well thats not helping things

 

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=244
[bufferPools]
UsePools=0

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 your ram is quite low

 

What does this even matter? (and 8GB isn't "quite low") You have no idea what you're even talking about. Stop it. It's a terrible 32Bit app that skirts the boundaries of its 4GB VAS limit as it is. Your 16GB of RAM is a complete waste if you bought it exclusively for P3D. And a SSD isn't going to help render textures any faster.   Please don't even start with the hardware blaming.. The simulator is optimized terribly. 

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"The simulator is optimized terribly."

 

I agree with you but nothing we can do about it 

 

"You have no idea what you're even talking about."

 

:LMAO:

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"You have no idea what you're even talking about."

 

:LMAO:

 

You laugh but you're the one telling me a system with 8GB of RAM for a 32Bit app is "quite low".   

 

Anyway.. This dead weight is getting deleted again.. Lockheed Martin yet again fail to deliver..  

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Its a shame you have not given it more time Bill - I know its tweaking again but worth it in P3D as things will get better over time - I felt the same way about fsx would never load it again so I do have an idea where your coming from, I also thought P3D would be turn key but no such luck buy I have it now where it is very enjoyable and never tweaking my cfg file other than what I told you to do and a great NI profile I have

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Not worth my time.. I don't want to be one of those users who just hang around here and having nothing but negative things to say..  Believe me.. I gave it a chance.. I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVED 1.4 and I more than tolerated the initial v2 release for far longer than I should have.  I just can't subject myself to  OCD over the performance of a simulator sitting on a 30 some year old Frankenstein engine.  It's time to Old Yeller this engine and start over.. 

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Not worth my time.. I don't want to be one of those users who just hang around here and having nothing but negative things to say..  Believe me.. I gave it a chance.. I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVED 1.4 and I more than tolerated the initial v2 release for far longer than I should have.  I just can't subject myself to  OCD over the performance of a simulator sitting on a 30 some year old Frankenstein engine.  It's time to Old Yeller this engine and start over.. 

 

Got yah but man most have a ton of money invested in this dinosaur 

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Got yah but man most have a ton of money invested in this dinosaur 

 

Yeah I understand that. I have about a grand in various stuff too but.. Eh.. I let it go once already.. I've already accepted it a write off at this point.. I'll check back at 2.3 but by the looks of what I saw in the previews they are just duct taping more eye candy attachments on to it.  New features are useless if no one can use them efficiently. Just going to further stress the limits of an app that is already on the brink of collapsing on itself. I get future proofing but good lord. They are seriously asking a lot of a 32Bit app. They need to ditch the fake fullscreen because until then there will never be SLI.. SLI can not run in a window and fullscreen in Prepar3D is just a borderless window.  And this thing should have been 64Bit the same time they flipped it to DX11.  It's mind boggling it's still 32Bit.. 

 

Anyway.. Good luck! :)

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Yeah I understand that. I have about a grand in various stuff too but.. Eh.. I let it go once already.. I've already accepted it a write off at this point.. I'll check back at 2.3 but by the looks of what I saw in the previews they are just duct taping more eye candy attachments on to it.  New features are useless if no one can use them efficiently. Just going to further stress the limits of an app that is already on the brink of collapsing on itself. I get future proofing but good lord. They are seriously asking a lot of a 32Bit app. They need to ditch the fake fullscreen because until then there will never be SLI.. SLI can not run in a window and fullscreen in Prepar3D is just a borderless window.  And this thing should have been 64Bit the same time they flipped it to DX11.  It's mind boggling it's still 32Bit.. 

 

Anyway.. Good luck! :)

 

"SLI can not run in a window and fullscreen in Prepar3D is just a borderless window.  "

 

Dam did not know that - not good - as for 2.3 not looking very impressive so far from what I have heard so this is my last ditch effort and hoping for the best but as you say may not be achievable 

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SLI won't benefit P3D much unless they give all the pilots flame-throwing magic broadswords and long hairy beards.

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SLI won't benefit P3D much unless they give all the pilots flame-throwing magic broadswords and long hairy beards.

 

Stevie lol good one brother - hope all is well

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BTW Richard.. My apologies for jumping on you about the RAM thing.. I could have handled that a little less childish. I'm 37 for pete sake... :) Cheers.. Take care.

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BTW Richard.. My apologies for jumping on you about the RAM thing.. I could have handled that a little less childish. I'm 37 for pete sake... :) Cheers.. Take care.

 

No problem - wish I was 37 again - let me tell yah around 35-ish I noticed life goes by real fast beware brother - I have no idea where the last 15 years went -sux 

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I'm good Rich, thank you - same to you too, bro.

 

Bill, I've got a GTX680 class PC and P3Dv2.2 runs quite well with a little bit of adjustment. I've got HT enabled, and I've disabled HDR in the sim.

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I'm good Rich, thank you - same to you too, bro.

 

Bill, I've got a GTX680 class PC and P3Dv2.2 runs quite well with a little bit of adjustment. I've got HT enabled, and I've disabled HDR in the sim.

 

Glad to hear it my friend   :Hug: 

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Weird, in another thread you said that 2.2 is "leaps and bounds" compared to 2.0.

 

I don't know whether SLI will work or not with windowed mode (AMD said they won't provide CrossFire support because of this), but I agree they should ditch the fake fullscreen. G-Sync only works with fullscreen applications as well.

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Weird, in another thread you said that 2.2 is "leaps and bounds" compared to 2.0.

 

I don't know whether SLI will work or not with windowed mode (AMD said they won't provide CrossFire support because of this), but I agree they should ditch the fake fullscreen. G-Sync only works with fullscreen applications as well.

 

Yep.. First impressions digging through the display settings and doing some quick touch and goes with default aircraft. They added a lot of options that weren't in the initial offerings.  Once I really got playing it for a decent duration in 3rd party Carenado planes I started seeing the same old problems arising.. Just worse.   

 

It's fine.. It is what it is at this point..  Already deleted and back to grinding out dungeons in Skyrim. :)

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Yep.. First impressions digging through the display settings and doing some quick touch and goes with default aircraft. They added a lot of options that weren't in the initial offerings.  Once I really got playing it for a decent duration in 3rd party Carenado planes I started seeing the same old problems arising.. Just worse.   

 

It's fine.. It is what it is at this point..  Already deleted and back to grinding out dungeons in Skyrim. :)

 

If your biggest problem is the blurries, then you really should keep an eye on 2.3 because they've said that terrain paging performance will be one of the main improvements.

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If your biggest problem is the blurries, then you really should keep an eye on 2.3 because they've said that terrain paging performance will be one of the main improvements.

 

I will check it out.. Yeah blurries were the only problem. Framerates etc were fine.. Loading times were fine.. My HDD wasn't churning away or anything.. I'm using 377.88 drivers and not the bugged beta drivers. I had great frames on Vanilla AA, great frames w/ NI 4X SGSSAA.. Just the texture rendering was horrendous.  Ya know in hindsight I could have problem turned things down even more but then you start venturing into near photoscenery territory since so much auto-gen is removed. I didn't even touch shadows.. Just left them as default.   I pretty much left everything default except. Mesh / Texture sliders.  This engine is so weird with its scenery tiles and it's so finicky from one system to the next. Always has, probably always will.  You guys who have been here long enough know. Two experienced people with similar machines, similar setups and can have completely different results with how the sim runs.. Dating all the way back to FSX. 

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I will check it out.. Yeah blurries were the only problem. Framerates etc were fine.. Loading times were fine.. My HDD wasn't churning away or anything.. I'm using 377.88 drivers and not the bugged beta drivers. I had great frames on Vanilla AA, great frames w/ NI 4X SGSSAA.. Just the texture rendering was horrendous.  Ya know in hindsight I could have problem turned things down even more but then you start venturing into near photoscenery territory since so much auto-gen is removed. I didn't even touch shadows.. Just left them as default.   I pretty much left everything default except. Mesh / Texture sliders.  This engine is so weird with its scenery tiles and it's so finicky from one system to the next. Always has, probably always will.  You guys who have been here long enough know. Two experienced people with similar machines, similar setups and can have completely different results with how the sim runs.. Dating all the way back to FSX. 

 

You may want to try thes NI settings - perfect image all the time which I could never achieve in fsx

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/429212-aa-workaround-for-nvidia-cards/

 

My little blurb on it

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/444343-outstanding-ni-settings/

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