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A2A Cessna 182 and P3D v2.5, wow!

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I never imagined how amazingly beautiful and well crafted this plane is when I really started using it with P3D v2.5. I do mostly tubeliners and have slowly started to get back into GA flying, you know, low and slow vfr sight seeing. This aircraft made me want to fly GA even more now. I'm looking into purchasing the GTN 750 for this from Flight1. Does anyone have this setup with this plane and could tell me if it's worth the $65?

 

I'm looking to improve my experience further.

 

Simply hands down the best GA plane for P3D I've flown! 

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Yes the C182 is a beautiful plane, I would pick the Chereoke over it though.

Yes the Flight1 750 would be worth it as you can integrate it into many planes.

A2A Simulations are going to release there own version of a built in GPS on an upcoming free update. I'll try and find the news link.

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I'm an avid fan of the GTN units from Flight1. (I'm an avid fan of the A2A aircraft as well, but that needs no explanation.. ^_^ )

 

They are definitely worth the cost, in my opinion.  There's been no other add-on that's changed my simming so dramatically. If you have a separate touch screen (or are willing to invest in one) they are even better.  Since I typically use them as 2D popups on a separate screen, I have them installed in almost everything I fly.  In the few aircraft where you can install them into the VC (182, T. Duke from RealAir), I usually have two installed; one 750 to have in the VC, one as a popup.

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If you have a separate touch screen (or are willing to invest in one) they are even better

Hello Jimmy,

Would you mean like an IPad or Samsung Tablet?? 

 

 

 


In the few aircraft where you can install them into the VC (182, T. Duke from RealAir), I usually have two installed; one 750 to have in the VC, one as a popup.

Do you have to buy 2 in that case?  Or can you just double them up? 

 

Here's the link for the update,   

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=46234


 

 


A2A Simulations are going to release there own version of a built in GPS on an upcoming free update. I'll try and find the news link.

Ok i think i got that &@($*-ways lol,    silly poppet  :ph34r:

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Do you have to buy 2 in that case?  Or can you just double them up? 

 

 

 

 

 

The GTN popup is a standard feature - no cost involved.

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Hello Jimmy,
Would you mean like an IPad or Samsung Tablet??

 

I use a 23" touchscreen, on a monitor arm / bracket that allows me to reposition it: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX54296

 

 

 


Do you have to buy 2 in that case? Or can you just double them up?

 

You can install two units, i.e. two GTN 750's side by side.  The only drawback is that there's no crossfill of flight plans.  Typically, I use one for the flight plan, the other to view charts or terrain or the vertical calculator.

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Poppet wow, that's awesom, but aren't those screenshots using the third party GTN 750/650 from Flight1?

 

I thought this could already be done? At least in the A2A 182. I see options for this in the plane's configuration utility. 

 

Not sure what that update is suppose to do? Sort of confused. Do you mean that the new update will include those new gps gauges or will it just allow us to incorporate thirdy party ones into the virtual cockpit?

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If you like moving maps and magenta lines, get the GTN750, if you are an old school pilot prefering something less intrusive so you can focus on your primary flight instruments, consider the GTN650.  I have both 750 and 650, I feel the 650 fits the typical GA cockpit a little better.  The 750 is ideal for high performance aircraft like the Turbine Duke.  Yes the 650 requires another click or two go get the info you need, but at typical 172/Cherokee and 182 speeds, there is plenty of time for this.

 

Putting a GTN750 in a 50year old airplane like the Cherokee would be like putting a modern automobile GPS, backup camera, bluetooth interface in a 1960s car.  A huge TV screen kind of spoils the 60s look, not to mention the real life cost of the avionics being close to or equal the real life value of the airplane.  A 'smaller' screen like the 650 blends in a little better, and at 110kts, you have plenty of time to figure out where you are without huge moving map.

 

Another thing in favor of the 650 is future compatibility.  Being the smaller unit, it is an easier fix for developers to fit with minimal panel redesign, as well as being available for more possibilities.  Single or Tandem seat aircraft with fighter style cockpits likely won't have panel space for a 750.  Think of the potential RealAir Scoutv2,  A2A Civil versions of upcomming AT-6 and T-33...much more likely be 650 compatible.

 

Cheers

TJ

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Looking at A2A's site, seems the Cherokee is only available for FSX, how do you guys get it working in P3D?

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The GTN popup is a standard feature - no cost involved.

Thank you Bert,  sounds good  

 

 

 


I use a 23" touchscreen, on a monitor arm / bracket that allows me to reposition it: http://www.memoryexp...roducts/MX54296

Thank you Jimmy,  that's very cool.  I have a small enough space so a retractable arm would be perfect 

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If you like moving maps and magenta lines, get the GTN750, if you are an old school pilot prefering something less intrusive so you can focus on your primary flight instruments, consider the GTN650. I have both 750 and 650, I feel the 650 fits the typical GA cockpit a little better. The 750 is ideal for high performance aircraft like the Turbine Duke. Yes the 650 requires another click or two go get the info you need, but at typical 172/Cherokee and 182 speeds, there is plenty of time for this.

 

Or get both. ^_^   I agree that the 650 has a less obtrusive look in the VC, but I'm simply partial to the 750 because I actually use it as a real touchscreen in it's 2D guise.  Used in this manner, I can say that the 750 is a bit easier to use.  I mentioned using 2 x 750's, so as to have one visible (non-blacked out) in the VC, while using one a popup on a second (touchscreen) monitor; it would be just as viable to do that with a 1 x 750, 1 x 650 install, where the 650 is the one visible in the VC and the 750 on the second screen.

 

I've seen real world photos of 750's in the 182, so it's believable enough for that aircraft I would think.  The Cherokee might be a stretch though!

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Looking at A2A's site, seems the Cherokee is only available for FSX, how do you guys get it working in P3D?

Aaron the Cherekoo is available to P3D without the Migration tool 


 

 


Not sure what that update is suppose to do? Sort of confused. Do you mean that the new update will include those new gps gauges or will it just allow us to incorporate thirdy party ones into the virtual cockpit?

 

To be completely honest with you Aaron,  i'm confused too.   Maybe someone with actual real know how will put me out of my embarrassing misery  :blush:

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Currently the 182 lets you either have 750 OR 650 as Com1/Nav1.  The patch will allow you to have 750 AND 650 together (Com1/Nav1 AND Com2/Nav2 with GTN), as well as bringing GTN capability to the 172 and Cherokee.

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Thank you TJ,    :rolleyes:

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pilotj thanks, thats awesome! Will there be crossfill support if you have a combination of 2 of the gps units like with realityxp?

 

Also will this update that adds GTN 650/750 integration into the VC be a seperate download or will it be like a service pack for each plane?

 

Damn looks like I'll be spending $130 to buy the 650 and the 750 now. This is getting to be a very expensive hobby. :(

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F1 doesn't support crossfill yet, however flight plans are very easy to create in the GTN.   I use Skyvector to build my flight plan, then load up FS, pick a plane with GTN like 182 or Turbine Duke, then enter the flight plan manually.  Usually I just either the departure proceedure, and the first leg or two, then enter the rest of the flight plan while enroute.  Since GTN lets enter your route with airways, this makes flight plan loading easy.  If you have dual GTN, it only takes a few mins to do the same for the second GTN. 

 

You don't HAVE to have dual GTNs, the 182 operates fine with a single unit.  There may be even an option for dual GTN650 too as they would not take up too much panel space.  Dual 750 probably too much space for the 182 panel.  So my advice is pick a GTN, get that one, then get the other later if you really want or need it.  If it weren't for the Turbine Duke, I probably wouldn't have kept the GTN750 and suck with the GTN650.  

 

A2A has an autoupdate system, when the update is ready, it will be posted on their forum, you download it, run it, and it will update all your currently installed A2A planes.  Then you use the 182 Config utility for example, and select the aircraft panel options like GTN, RXP..etc.  

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