This is all academic. Clearly there are people who are willing to pay 50 of whatever currency for a few leather sofas, window shades, coffee table with a laptop and a teak bed with a pillow (and by the way I don't think they are that well made). I am of course laughing my socks off but what the heck - our FS community is truly diversified - one's man trash is another man's treasure so I am not surprised at all.Michael J.

Daniel I've already agreed with you a few post back that this package should be offered as an upgrade to existing customers of the 737NG. I also went a step further in saying Ariane should take into account the 'Dollar' versus the 'Euro'. If they sell this product cheaper in the US they will in tern bring aboard many more loyal and returning customers. I really believe this product will do that for them..."I don't own the plane and can't test for myself, but friends who have it say it's nothing revolutionary, and that it's even a bit clunkier than competing companies' efforts in some respects."Sounds like your friends either didn't read the manual or never got the plane off the ground to begin with...

Michael if you don't own this product you are in no position to talk, one way or the other... :-boom

It's nice to have the viewpoint of someone who ACTUALLY OWNS the plane rather than the speculative rantings of those who don't and just have an agenda.

It is the first plane that actually gives the "feel" of flying, as opposed to the "effect" of flying...and that's all I'm going to say.

<"I don't own the plane and can't test for myself, but friends who have it say it's nothing revolutionary, and that it's even a bit clunkier than competing companies' efforts in some respects."Sounds like your friends either didn't read the manual or never got the plane off the ground to begin with...>Come on, Dillon - that's ridiculous!Some people who have bought the product state that, from their actual experiences of it, they find it 'lacking' in some ways compared to other companies renditions. How the #### does that imply they didn't read the manual or actually 'fly' the plane?????Sounds to me like you've 'lost the plot' on this.....

>OK, i read enough to bring me in. I have been quiet for a>while ;)>>Staffan, let me ask you something. I put a bunch of effort>painting the BBJ model of Ariane, the first version without>panel. Will the textures i got fit with the new one or did the>elements change?>>Second question, as a loyal Ariane customer. I purchased the>whole 737 Classic series, i purchased several others and i>got, due to helping Ariane with some textures stuff and FDE>stuff certain gifts. I got the 737-900 VCe. DO you see any way>that i can upgrade my BBJ to this BBJ VCe to an affordable>price. I getting a child in october and i just spend a four>digits amount in child stuff.>>Honestly, 50 pounds for me right now totally nonaffordable>>Cheers>MartinHi Martin,I really don

>And Staffan, Dreamfleet is bug-free? Didn't they do the>systems for the F1 ATR? :)>>Daniel P.They did. But as I said "as bugfree". Meaning that the closest one to compare with is Dreamfleet. But you are right, the ATR suffered from some bugs. ;-)http://www.scandicair.com/images/Banner_ariane_4.jpg

I would just to like to add my 2 pence.If you can afford it and want it buy it.If you can afford it and dont like the price then dont buy it.Put the

So let me get this right... This one addon is $87 U.S.? Wow!Dave---------------------------------------------------System Specs:Athlon64 3500+ ClawHammerECS NForce4 A-939 Mobo (1ghz FSB)2 Gigs OCZ Performance PC3200 Ram (Dual Channel)ATI Radeon X800Pro PCI-E 256MB (Omega 5.6 drivers @ 550/540)SoundBlaster Live 24bitSaitek Cyborg EvoWinXP SP1

>So let me get this right... This one addon is $87 U.S.? >Wow!>>Dave>--------------------------------------------------->System Specs:>Athlon64 3500+ ClawHammer>ECS NForce4 A-939 Mobo (1ghz FSB)>2 Gigs OCZ Performance PC3200 Ram (Dual Channel)>ATI Radeon X800Pro PCI-E 256MB (Omega 5.6 drivers @ 550/540)>SoundBlaster Live 24bit>Saitek Cyborg Evo>WinXP SP1Insane isnt it?

Well Peter for what it's worth this add-on is 'Fantastic'... :-) Like I said look around a few forums including Avsim on post regarding Ariane's 737NG. If you purchased this add-on (BBJ) you won't be disappointed...

>It's nice to have the viewpoint of someone who ACTUALLY OWNS>the plane rather than the speculative rantings of those who>don't and just have an agenda.Exactly what 'agenda' are you referring to? And what 'speculative rantings'?There's nothing speculative that I've read in this thread about what little you get for the money if you already have the -700 VCe. It's all clear fact.I challenge you "Edam" (or whatever your real name is)to name one single publisher who charges full product price for each livery and/or 'opening window' etc as if it's a completely ALL NEW product.I think you'll find that's a boast only Ariane can make.If the agenda is to persuade Ariane to stop ripping their customers off financially, 'guilty as charged'!(....and what makes you think I don't ACTUALLY OWN the plane?)Toni.

So if I wanted to buy the BBJ (which I would because I love the BBJ) I would have to buy the 737-700 base pack and the BBJ pack? No thanks thats way to expensive for me! Plus I already own the PMDG 737-700 package, so buying the Ariane 737-700 base pack would seem to be a waste for me.

Okay, this thread has run its course too. Now shutting it down.