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Just for everyone's information -- it looks like the first Skylake chips and motherboards will be out August 5th, and priced about 10% higher than Devil's Canyon.

 

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/unlocked-intel-skylake-s-processors-reportedly-coming-august-5th/

 

http://www.winbeta.org/news/week-pc-hardware-skylake-pricing-graphics-monstrosities-and-brain-memcomputer

 

I wonder how soon the first FSXMark11 results will be available?


James David Walley

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Thanks for posting that James. Right on time, I will be building my new rig right about then.

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Is it worth waiting for Skylake when you compare to these 2 processors?

 

Intel® Core™ i7-5930K Processor (6-cores, 15MB Cache, Overclocked up to 3.9 GHz w/ Turbo Boost)

ntel® Core™ i7-5960X Processor (8-cores, 20MB Cache, Overclocked up to 4.0 GHz w/ Turbo Boost)


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Considering those currently go for $632.51 and $1,028.99, respectively, while the i7-6700K is priced somewhere below $400.00, yes, it is worth waiting.


James David Walley

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Are these guys going to be cold solder [epoxy solder] between die and heat sink? Or crappy old thermal paste we can de-lid?

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I don't expect to see any thrilling increases in performance over previous generation CPUs. The processor chip industry hit a brick wall several years ago, and I am not convinced that they have found a way to knock it down yet.


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I heard 15% increase Chris.
 
I'm on a 3770k though, so hopefully a decent improvement.
 
I read this morning that it is crappy tim not solder. Not 100% verified yet though.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-core-i7-6700k-skylake-de-lidded-small-die-and-ngptim-found/

Small die, and paste.

Voltage regulators no longer on the chip though...


http://wccftech.com/intel-abandon-internal-voltage-regulator-skylake-microarchitecture/

 

Remember Intel’s FIVR (Fully Integrated Voltage Regulator) innovation that was something of a hype back before Haswell was released? Well we have just received some technical documents which suggest that Intel is abandoning the FIVR design.

 

 

 

Intel recon it's the most significant processor for a decade.

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Well, we will just have to wait and see. All I know is that if my i5 2500k powered PC had not suffered a motherboard and GPU failure last July, I would probably still be using it now (with a new graphics card).


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So i2500K to Skylake (at the same clock speed) will be about a 35% increase in speed.  Pretty good in my book, not to mention the increase in ram speed (or throughput) from moving to DDR4.  I think the key will be "at the same speed".  I am currently running my 2500K at 4.8GHz.


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So i2500K to Skylake (at the same clock speed) will be about a 35% increase in speed.  Pretty good in my book, not to mention the increase in ram speed (or throughput) from moving to DDR4.  I think the key will be "at the same speed".  I am currently running my 2500K at 4.8GHz.

I am pretty sure they will oc to about 4.5 as the turbo goes to 4.2 down from 4.4 on the 4790k.   These are  smaller chips with most likely high heat.  Some of that 35% would be lost due to lower oc's in my opinion.  I am at 4.9 ghz on my four year old 2700k; I suspect if you are at 4.8+ ghz on sandybridge technology; you may get 15-20% as the oc would be less.  If your min fps at a heavy airport is 23..you may get 3-4 fps more in the heavy situations.  I guess we have to see how they oc; SB was so big due to the ipc gains as well as the oc headroom they gave.

 

DDR 4 will be slow to get the benefits in the first 6 months to a year as the ram speeds are slower and timings are less than good ddr3 sticks that are in the market, but we can hope for some bigger ipc gains....alot of these early reports vary from 6% single thread from haswell to the link in this theard with higher results for skylake...who knows.   I am enjoying my sim in the current set-up though, so no rush I guess!


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I am pretty sure they will oc to about 4.5 as the turbo goes to 4.2 down from 4.4 on the 4790k.   These are  smaller chips with most likely high heat.  Some of that 35% would be lost due to lower oc's in my opinion.  I am at 4.9 ghz on my four year old 2700k; I suspect if you are at 4.8+ ghz on sandybridge technology; you may get 15-20% as the oc would be less.  If your min fps at a heavy airport is 23..you may get 3-4 fps more in the heavy situations.  I guess we have to see how they oc; SB was so big due to the ipc gains as well as the oc headroom they gave.

 

DDR 4 will be slow to get the benefits in the first 6 months to a year as the ram speeds are slower and timings are less than good ddr3 sticks that are in the market....

 

So just stick with what I have for now.  God I hope my overclocked chip hangs on.  Just so I know, what are the options if it goes ? Is there a drop in that will work with my current LGA1155 MB and Ram ?


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So just stick with what I have for now.  God I hope my overclocked chip hangs on.  Just so I know, what are the options if it goes ? Is there a drop in that will work with my current LGA1155 MB and Ram ?

lol; I am in the same boat!  My vcore on load still stays at 1.35-1.36 so I am lucky.  I only manage a one hour flight once a week, so my rig has not had much use over the years though!  Think you can use your ram; think Skylake has a new socket set, so you may need a new mb though.


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