Hands down. . .PMDG is the WINNER. Take some time and hang around the forums. Watch how great PMDG treats their valued customers. . .vs. Level D. Your money is well spent with PMDG products. . .go for the 74.Gary Hawk

>Hands down. . .PMDG is the WINNER. Take some time and hang>around the forums. Watch how great PMDG treats their valued>customers. . .vs. Level D. Your money is well spent with PMDG>products. . .go for the 74.>>Gary Hawk>Gary, your personal vendetta against Eric is getting old. You refused to purchase the LDS 767 because of that. Please act your age, and GROW UP.BobK

My I suggest something totally different? How about the PMDG737? With the 767 and 747 you are stuck with long haul flights. The 737 in real life can fly segments as short as 35-45 minutes and then do a 5 hour cross country. You get more action that just a takeoff, sit and let it cook for hours on hours and then one landing. Since this is your first complex add-on, you will not be as jaded as some folks and while complex, you won't be totally swamped by the airplane. It flies quite nicely by hand. You also can go into more than just international airports with acres and acres of runway.

Not if you fly in Japan...and don't forget the Wilco/Feelthere B737-300/400/500 coming in Sept. (Looks Great! :-cool)Btw...I Luv my 737-800/900...great plane and only $39.99 on CD>My I suggest something totally different? How about the>PMDG737? With the 767 and 747 you are stuck with long haul>flights. The 737 in real life can fly segments as short as>35-45 minutes and then do a 5 hour cross country. You get more>action that just a takeoff, sit and let it cook for hours on>hours and then one landing. >>Since this is your first complex add-on, you will not be as>jaded as some folks and while complex, you won't be totally>swamped by the airplane. It flies quite nicely by hand. You>also can go into more than just international airports with>acres and acres of runway.

>Hands down. . .PMDG is the WINNER. Take some time and hang>around the forums. Watch how great PMDG treats their valued>customers. . .vs. Level D. Your money is well spent with PMDG>products. . .go for the 74.>>Gary Hawk>As far as I can tell both companies have a very good customer support.

What bothered me about Level D is that you have to be a registered customer to examine the posts in the support forums. PMDG, Dreamfleet and others let anyone see their problems and problem children posters.

Thanks for all the suggestions and responses. I ended up going with the LDS767 after all, but it was a tough choice. I plan to get the 747 as well later on, after I spend some time with the 767.I went with the LDS767 because: I already have the PMDG 737, so why not try a complex airliner by another developer to compareThe LDS is probably a little more stable at this point, with one service pack complete and a second one on the way. The LDS team is also not so busy should I need support or other assistance. The PMDG folks are understandibly slammed right now. It can be flown on shorter domestic routes and into more airports in the US with shorter runways. You wouldn't see a 747-400 doing the morning run from Providence to Atlanta. The virtual cabin isn't important to me.Flight1 offers a 30 day money back policy, so if I don't like it, I can return it and get the PMDG 747. It is less expensive by almost a third.

Excellent reasoning - and well-thought-out!http://www.pic767flyingclub.com/siggies/ds.jpg

And by the time you have mastered her and her systems you won't need the manual of the 747 anymore.The differences between the two in operation are miniscule. The level of automation in the 747 is higher, for example the only way to change NAV and ILS frequencies is the FMC. But as far as actual procedures go I have a feeling it could be summed up in a two page manual.

The only people to respond and try to help me with my issue were the beta testers on that forum. Finally a developer said they were going to look at it... but nothing since then. My LDS is grounded until they can figure out why the autopilot and trim stop working with FSUIPC's throttle sync activated. PMDG's forum has both beta testers and developers always responding to posts. It took my topic over a week just to get ONE answer from someone who was on the team.

>55 Bucks is too much for a "Comparable AC" as you guys have>put it.I tend to agree, USD55 is far too much, there are countries where that is the monthly wage.

Alex, the beta testers are part if the support team, too. They go through the forum posts daily, and it they can't answer the question/issue, they post a link to the thread and give their findings in our beta forums, so that ALL of us, testers AND developers and programmers can look at it. Every issue that isn't user induced, gets the developers' attention. You must be aware that there are some issues being reported that no one has been able to reproduce. In these cases, it's very difficult to find a cause, and will take longer to resolve. We aren't able to access everyones' computer, and verify that they are doing everything properly.The LDS team has the best group of beta testers that I've ever worked with. Not just people who know how the plane works and flies, but are able to figure out why things in the programming do what they do. Plus, you're getting assistance from people who were actually part of the developement of the product, not just hired help who don't have a clue. That's an advantage that most FS products have over other software. What happens when you have trouble with MS produts, or other software or hardware that you install? For that matter, just about ANY product? You call a number and get to talk to someone who has no idea how that product works, and has never even used it. They go through a checklist, and have you try this or that, and how often does that work?You are NOT being cheated out of getting the support you need by the beta testers, whether it be LDS, PMDG or whatever. Trust me. If your problem thread is still there, ask for an update - or, just post again and we'll let you know what's happening.

>Excellent reasoning - and well-thought-out!>>http://www.pic767flyingclub.com/siggies/ds.jpgThanks Daryl. Excellent job on the 767! I'm getting in some late night reading, but it's worth it.

Neil, post back here when you're comfortable with it and give us your thoughts.billg

>>55 Bucks is too much for a "Comparable AC" as you guys have>>put it.>>>I tend to agree, USD55 is far too much, there are countries>where that is the monthly wage.>I doubt that people in such a country have time and money to even buy a PC.