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king air - flight1 or milviz?

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Thanks Ken your recommendation is appreciated and with F1 money back its going to be an easy purchase although I believe the $10 coupon is only for previous owners switching to P3D

 

http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=weeklyspecial

:-O

 

An OEM B200 says 19 mins to FL280 with a Dash 52 doing it in 14-15 mins. Did you stop for a pee break half way up? :D

 

I did have to extend the ice vanes for a  portion of the climb and I used the timer in FSCaptain so this wasn't a scientific check on climb performance. Remember my earlier comment on King Airs rarely get direct climbs so the book climb numbers are useful for conversation only.

 

Anyway next time I will use the Flight timer on the yoke for a more precise climb from SL to FL280. All the other numbers were spot on so I suspect an error in how ,my climb was computed.

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  • The Flight 1 B200.   First off, I have never flown a Garmin 1000 equipped King Air so my expertise in the avionics is limited. I do own the Garmin Integrated Flight Deck Trainer version 13.02 for tr

Ok, I redid the climb test. Brake release to FL280 nonstop (ISA -11 at TO and ISA at FL280) time to climb was 13:03. So I should have stated FL280 came in under 15 minutes.

 

I don't really do much testing or flying a 1980s era King Air 200 above FL290 due to RVSM. Although Beech offers an STC kit I have not talked to many operators who have spent the money on this capability. Most of the time King Airs are being kicked out of the lower 30s by the faster RJs. Heck, it is difficult just to get the upper 20s on most days.

 

Thank you for the ribbing, it was deserved as I gave out bad Juju. :smile:

 

The Flight 1 B200.

 

Thanks for this excellent review.  Maybe we will get lucky and F1 will read it and modify the Autofeather behavior.

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Removed HUGE excessive quote. Please stop quoting an entire wall of text!

Mark   CYYZ      

 

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wow! haha this thread got way more detailed and feisty than i expected.

 

i really appreciate all the responses and feedback! i ended up getting the flight1, seems like a really solid plane, on my older system fps performance is similar to 737ngx, not amazing but very useable, had a few quick spins that were great and really looking forward to investigating all the systems depth. i'll give the milviz one a closer look when it gets to official release. in the meantime i'm very tempted by their f-4 as that is one of my favorite planes since when i was a kid.

 

cheers y'all

-andy crosby

Just an update, Milviz announced in their B350i General Forum they are dropping the Universal UNS-1F FMS and installing the "correct" FMS. As such they expect a 3 to 6 month delay. I was queried about the CTD issue that I have been experiencing and they have an idea of what may be causing the issue.

 

I forgot to mention in the Flight1 review that the product also includes an icing simulation. Basically as the airplane picks up icing the deice boots get a coating of milky white ice. As far as I can tell this simulation does not seem to decrease the laminar flow across the airfoils nor does it seem to add any Coefficient of Drag (i.e. require more Torque to fly at the same airspeed.) But, this is an interesting effect and adds something to selecting single cycle auto on the surface deice system. Pushing the toggle to auto and the boots inflate and the icing clears off the wings. I cannot tell any residual or run back icing simulation. While the icing simulation is elementary I have to admit it is cool in a desktop simulation.

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