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Hi,

I don`t see nowwhere in the animated trees.

I've tried a variety of different places and weather (default scenery and with heavy winds) but  the trees remain static.All setiings is set to max (also extremely dense autogen and effects and so. on..).

What may be a problem? Is this thing works from other users?

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Hi,

I don`t see nowwhere in the animated trees.

I've tried a variety of different places and weather (default scenery and with heavy winds) but  the trees remain static.All setiings is set to max (also extremely dense autogen and effects and so. on..).

What may be a problem? Is this thing works from other users?

 

If you load the default flight, look to your right. There are speed trees there. 

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Yes, thanks! Now i see - these (10-20) trees are animated.

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To add to that: The autogen trees remain and will remain the way they were. The speedtree compatibility is only meant for 3rd Party scenery design.

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Judged by the comparo video just uploaded, you ain't missing much. The animation `needs work`. 

 

Good feature to add under certain circumstances, but I prefer my GPU cycles to be virtual aviating, not groundiating. But P3D is a whole world simulation not just a fly sim.

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The animation certainly does need work. Those trees in the default location are shaking like Hula girls on drugs.

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Is the movement of Speed Trees dependent on wind velocity and direction or is it just random movement.

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I hope that either the performance is fantastic and has near zero impact on framerate or that developers don't get too excited about this and start adding zillions of trees everywhere in their sceneries  :Cuppa:

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Good point. If you're that close to the trees in an aircraft you're either on an airfield, or in deep trouble !  :Shocked:

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I think Flight had animated trees for all the trees in the 'game' if my memory serves me correct. Not sure what tech they used but they did look pretty good and didn't seem too harsh on the frame rate bearing in mind it was all trees that were shakin' their stuff.

 

Good trees make for a far more immersive experience so I am all for any advancements they can come up with.

 

By the way, is anyone using the addon trees from Orbx? Are they any good?

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Speed Trees have really odd movement to them. We have them in Perfect Golf also and it just looks really odd (more of shaking than blowing in the wind)

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I think Flight had animated trees for all the trees in the 'game' if my memory serves me correct. Not sure what tech they used but they did look pretty good and didn't seem too harsh on the frame rate bearing in mind it was all trees that were shakin' their stuff.

MS Flight licensed "Speed Trees..."

 

...and yes, they were used everywhere.

 

The animations are affected by both wind speed and direction.

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The animation rate is done to reduce performance impact ... expect to see them improved and "maybe" make it to Autogen trees in future V3.x versions.  I would suspect that 3rd party may also tackle the task or improving on the current SpeedTree animations.

 

Here is some information from LM crew (I've posted this info in several speed tree related threads):

How do I place SpeedTree Models?
- Open SimDirector
- Choose Scenery category
- Choose vegetation_st subcategory
- Drag and drop items from the list into the scene
- (Optional) chose File->Export Scenery to save your placement out as bgl
 
Cheers, Rob.

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...and "maybe" make it to Autogen trees in future V3.x versions.

 

 

Yeah - I really hope so. That'd be excellent :).

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The animation rate is done to reduce performance impact ... expect to see them improved and "maybe" make it to Autogen trees in future V3.x versions. I would suspect that 3rd party may also tackle the task or improving on the current SpeedTree animations.

 

Here is some information from LM crew (I've posted this info in several speed tree related threads):

How do I place SpeedTree Models?

- Open SimDirector

- Choose Scenery category

- Choose vegetation_st subcategory

- Drag and drop items from the list into the scene

- (Optional) chose File->Export Scenery to save your placement out as bgl

 

Cheers, Rob.

The downside to this presumably being that (as ever) placing scenery library objects through a bgl is less efficient performance-wise than autogen?

 

Its interesting that there is apparent consideration of replacing the (entire?) autogen tree system with speedtrees by LM, but I agree with previous points that they appear to shake, (too quickly so that the movement can be too easily perceived to be repetitive). I dont know anything about speedtrees so will have to do some learning.

 

Bottom line, if they can be amended to be a bit slower, more apparently random moving and can replace more of the existing autogen trees, great!

 

Any other nuggets of intel you can let slip about future point releases please Rob? ;)

 

K

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No nuggets other than there will be more to come as development continues.

 

I think you might find solutions to the current SpeedTree animations coming from other 3rd party providers also, not just from LM.

 

I thought Autogen was a BGL?  hence Autogen.BGL file?  I can understand why they were not initially setup as Autogen trees because the animation of thousands of trees would most certainly come at some performance impact ... just have to wait and see how they develop.

 

Cheers, Rob.

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I wonder that, if nothing else, the introduction of SpeedTrees into P3D shows quite the diligent side of LM's development efforts; they're not so much focusing on SimDirector fixes but also platform upgrades and enhancements.

 

While having just gotten back into a lot of this, it seems like a far cry from the FSX days. The FSX landscape--whether you take that figuratively or literally--seemed to resemble a Mad Max one.

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AFAIK autogen is through agn files in the texture folder allied to a corresponding scenery folder containing the scenery bgls, which may be different from default/3pd annotated landclass textures (not a fan of landclass based scenery I'm afraid!)

 

Regardless of whether we get an official/unofficial heads up on future possibilities, I'm sure things will only get better :) More interesting times ahead! Cheers K

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Is it possible to still download + run MS Flight?

 

I'm interested to look at full SpeedTree integration + also see what they did with some other effects such as sun glare etc. I did give it a test at time of release, but due to its arcade/casual nature quickly dismissed it.

 

Cheers,

 

 

Robert

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