October 19, 201510 yr Hello i was wandering what is the max vcore for a 4790k as mine is set on 1.21vcore and 4.6ghz and when i use intel extreme tuning utility i am getting as high as 93c and i am using water cooling do you think it is worth de lidding my cpu thanks. Alexander Shepherd
October 19, 201510 yr I shoot for less than 1.3v and 80C...93C on a 4790K is way too hot. At 4.6GHz, I run 1.24v and see temps in the mid 60s on water cooling during a OCCT CPU stress test. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
October 19, 201510 yr Author Yeh so i must have a bad chip i guess what thermal paste do you use and have you de lidded it. Alexander Shepherd
October 19, 201510 yr 1.233V at 4.8 on air using AS5 TIM here. With ambient temps of 68-70F I see mid 60'sC in AIDA64 FPU testing. If you're seeing 93C at 1.21V I'd suggest going to another test first (the Intel test stresses the CPU way more than real world applications ever would). If then your temps are still high it might be time to look at your cooling solution. Good luck, Greg
October 19, 201510 yr If you are comfortable, careful and patient, delidding is always a + in my book. And 93c is hot, but no immediate danger. I recommend Gelid for paste, and Coolab pro under the lid. Put some clear varnish on the PCB components first, that stuff is conductive. <p>Dassault Falcon, Lear, Embraer and Challenger and Cessna Mechanic.Broadcasting live from former Soviet Missile Silo.Rhys Legge
October 19, 201510 yr I believe intel stated max is 1.43v but thats not for long term, and 93c IS MAX for heat. With you hitting 93c @ only 1.21 yeah you need a better cooler or reapply the paste. Small vertical line (grain of rice) down the center. If you cannot drop the heat down, then I would drop the clock to 4.5 and call it good. As real world temps should be about 20c lower then the intel utility. Flight Simulator's - Prepar3d V5/MSFS | Operating System - WIN 11 | Main Board - GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Elite WIFI7 | CPU - AMD 9800X3D | RAM - CORSAIR 64GB 6600Mhz | Video Card - EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra | Monitor - DELL 38" Ultrawide | Case - CORSAIR 750D Full Tower | CPU Cooling - CORSAIR H170i Elite LCD 420mm Push/Pull | Power Supply - EVGA 1000 G+ | Sound System - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 600 w/subwoofer
October 19, 201510 yr Author would be nice to get to 5ghz i think it may be the paste i'm using i have gone and bought some i was using arctic mx 4 i have just bought some gelid solutions gc-exterme thermal compound do you think that will make any difference. Alexander Shepherd
October 19, 201510 yr would be nice to get to 5ghz i think it may be the paste i'm using i have gone and bought some i was using arctic mx 4 i have just bought some gelid solutions gc-exterme thermal compound do you think that will make any difference. To get 5 GHz (Prime) stable on the 4790K and "normal" (water cooling or delidded) you must be extremely lucky to have a superior chip. 1 out of 1000 I would guess. But one can dream... [email protected] ∣ Asus ROG Strix B650E-E ∣ 64Gb@6000MT ∣ NVidia 5090 FE
October 19, 201510 yr would be nice to get to 5ghz i think it may be the paste i'm using i have gone and bought some i was using arctic mx 4 i have just bought some gelid solutions gc-exterme thermal compound do you think that will make any difference. What's the lowest FPS you're seeing with acceptable smoothness? And how much of the time you're flying are you seeing dips into the lowest FPS range and start to see lack of smoothness? I ask because w/ the drive to get a few more CPU cycles you're getting progressively poorer efficiency and heat production to the point of diminishing returns, and if you're looking at an 8.6% increase in thru put for example from 4.6Ghz to 5.0GHz (good luck w/ 5.0GHz), you're going to go from a frame rate of what, maybe 20, to a grand total of 21.8, which is hardly enough to lower the impact of problem areas. This assumes proportional increase in frame rate w/ CPU clock speed but that I think went out the window w/ P3D presumably because of the GPU's role or some other factor. I think it's a little less than 1:1. But the 93C sounds bad so yes see if you can address that. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
October 20, 201510 yr Author When i fly at heathrow xtreme version 3 with ftx global it can go down to 18 fps but mainly stays around 25 and the temps the cpu goes to when i do that is 86c i have found someone who will de lid the cpu for me ah i won't bother overclocking it more then just need to get the temps down before it catches fire. Alexander Shepherd
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