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Hello Everyone,

 

I'm thinking about moving to X-Plane. Have been flying with P3D for quite some time now, nowadays I also almost always fly on VATSIM. 

 

I have a few questions that I would love to get your view on:

 

1. What are the payware add-ons you would recommend getting (graphic's and quality of life etc) ?

2. Are there any nice payware Boeing planes available in comparable quality to the PMDG's products ?

3. Is there any ORBX equivalent one can get ?

4. Is there a nice weather engine that you would recommend getting ?

5. For people who tried both XP and P3D what made you stick with X-Plane in the end ?

6. As for VATSIM are the client applications for X-Plane stable and reliable to fly with ?

 

I would also be grateful if you could recommend me any webpage or source that maybe already lists the information for X-Plane starters.

 

Thanks again for your time and all the tips.

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No need to "move" to X-Plane, I have all three sims FSX-SE ,P3D and X-Plane 10 installed on my machine. Enjoy the best of all. 

Some new recent payware to take note of 

 

Flightfactor 767 

Rotate MD80

Flightfactor 757 

Flyjsim 727 and 737-200

JarDesign A330 and A320 (A320 not as visually good as the Aerosoft one,but improvements are in the pipline. 

 

Plenty of free scenery out there (you just need the hard-disk space :) 
 

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There were couple of similar topics recently:

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/474526-deciding-to-move-from-fsx/

 

This one might help you. 

 

2. Are there any nice payware Boeing planes available in comparable quality to the PMDG's products ?

Well, this is hard - IXEG will release their 737 soon which is expected to be really complex. FlightFactor 767 released few days ago is generally praised as well. PMDG is working on their first X-Plane release, but it will be DC-6, probably not too Boeing-like.

 

3. Is there any ORBX equivalent one can get ?

Combine HD meshes from alpilotx + World2XP and you will, most of the time, exceed ORBX quality, and both of those things are available for free. Obviously, donations are welcome as far as I know. 

 

5. I only tried FSX for some time, but I assume for many it's the ability to run sim that looks like on those screenshots and having more than 20 fps. 

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/479599-the-reality-expansion-pack-for-carenados-bonanza-f33a-is-now-out/?p=3338921

 

6. As for VATSIM are the client applications for X-Plane stable and reliable to fly with ?

I never had any issues with the XSquawkBox software I got from Vatsim page, though I don't fly on Vatsim that often. 

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Welcome to the X-Plane forums and Avsim.

 

There are a couple of similar threads throughout this topic which may help you out, but I'll add my 2 cents to some of them.

 

1. There is a lot of good freeware (scenery, plugins, etc). My favourite payware is Skymaxx Pro which greatly enhances the clouds and improves performance for me. It depends on what you're looking for, but there is a lot of stuff available for XP which is free

 

2. For me, there is nothing really comparable to PMDG's NGX yet, but there are some products due out very soon IXEG 737 which should come very close or even surpass it. There are numerous Boeing/Airbus products available for XP, but I've not had much experience with them. I'm sure others here can comment futher. Also PMDG will have their first product out for XP soon.

 

3. If you're talking about texture replacements, no there unfortunately isn't. If you're after detailed mesh, photoscenery, roads, buildings etc there are numerous options available (all of them free/donationware), e.g. HD Mesh v3, World2XPlane, G2XPL/Ortho4XP photoscenery.

 

4. Pass, there is nothing decent available for Mac OS X which I use, but I know there are options for Windows now. 

 

5. I'm actually enjoying both sims at the moment. The only thing that keeps me having P3D installed is ORBX. 90% of the time I used XP, and this is because of the high quality scenery (and as a developer, the ability to modify that scenery easily), and also the visuals and performance are much better for me.

 

6. Yes, there is xsquawkbox I believe. 

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Thank you very much for your replies and informative answers, I shall explore all the links.

 

I must say I did not expect so much content available for free or via the donation. Especially given how expensive single addons can be.

 

If it is not asking too much, which of the ones you use yourselves would you recommend getting as must have?

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Thanks very much for posting these links Elaine and Lena :-). This is a very common topic here, and it might be worth pinning one of these threads.

 

If it is not asking too much, which of the ones you use yourselves would you recommend getting as must have?

 

The main ones I use are Ortho4XP (Which can be a little tricky to get installed, but absolutely worth the time to read the excellent manual/tutorials), this can produce photoscenery and a mesh which far beats even the most expensive commercial offerings for other sims (with water masking, etc..). 

 

If photoscenery is not your thing, I'd highly recommend alpilotx's HD Mesh v3. It produces accurate coastlines, mountains etc for a large part of the planet and is an absolute must have. I have this installed for most of the US and Alaska and is fantastic.

 

I also use World2XPlane scenery (Which are regional buildings, roadings, forests, etc), but since I'm the author of that software I'll let others comment on it. Depending on where you fly, I've also done some detailed regions which don't require you to generate your own scenery, and there are also ready-made regions on simheaven.com using an older version of W2XP.

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I also use World2XPlane scenery (Which are regional buildings, roadings, forests, etc), but since I'm the author of that software I'll let others comment on it. 

 

Since I'm an user - Well, it might be the single, greatest thing I have ever installed for X-Plane. 

If you want to fly in the UK - GB Pro is just amazing. So is Denmark.

Now, I am (impatiently) waiting for Norway Pro as it's my favourite region to fly. (hint, hint Tony!)

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I must say I did not expect so much content available for free or via the donation. Especially given how expensive single addons can be.

 

 

let's just phrase it a bit differently. The FSX/P3D or flightsim in general consists of usually men in their 30-60 with disposable income, so the money is usually more readily available. Combine this with a pretty much monopoly for some products you can get away with any price you like.

 

Considering people like Tonywob, AllpilotX, MisterX (and numerous others) create all this donationware (refusing to call it freeware) in their spare time on the side, gives you an idea what some scenery should have been charged on FSX/P3D.

 

Freeware x-plane KSFO  vs. Payware FSX/P3D KSFO  which is which

 

 

MisterX-KSFO-Airport-City-V2-X-Plane.jpg

 

sfo_las_1.jpg

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The first pic is x plane he he, I know this cause I can see Real terra haze in the back. I'm so smart :)

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The first pic is x plane he he, I know this cause I can see Real terra haze in the back. I'm so smart :)

 Let me get the cookie ;) Choclate chip or strawberry cheesecake ? ;)

 

another giveaway would have been the parking brake at the bottom pic ^^

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Thanks very much for posting these links Elaine and Lena :-). This is a very common topic here, and it might be worth pinning one of these threads.

 

 

The main ones I use are Ortho4XP (Which can be a little tricky to get installed, but absolutely worth the time to read the excellent manual/tutorials), this can produce photoscenery and a mesh which far beats even the most expensive commercial offerings for other sims (with water masking, etc..). 

 

If photoscenery is not your thing, I'd highly recommend alpilotx's HD Mesh v3. It produces accurate coastlines, mountains etc for a large part of the planet and is an absolute must have. I have this installed for most of the US and Alaska and is fantastic.

 

I also use World2XPlane scenery (Which are regional buildings, roadings, forests, etc), but since I'm the author of that software I'll let others comment on it. Depending on where you fly, I've also done some detailed regions which don't require you to generate your own scenery, and there are also ready-made regions on simheaven.com using an older version of W2XP.

 

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions, these get me very excited and I might pick up X-Plane as my early Xmas gift to myself ;)

 

I fly a lot at night and my main problem with P3D was that it looked horrid on night flights. There are some pack for night lighting available like Taburet and ones from Aerosoft but they still cover small area around the plane.

 

There is also something weird about P3D's LOD radius. There are some blurries that can happen randomly and very annoying to look  at. I watched some videos on YT and in X-Plane it does not seem to be the case. 

 

let's just phrase it a bit differently. The FSX/P3D or flightsim in general consists of usually men in their 30-60 with disposable income, so the money is usually more readily available. Combine this with a pretty much monopoly for some products you can get away with any price you like.

 

Considering people like Tonywob, AllpilotX, MisterX (and numerous others) create all this donationware (refusing to call it freeware) in their spare time on the side, gives you an idea what some scenery should have been charged on FSX/P3D.

 

Freeware x-plane KSFO  vs. Payware FSX/P3D KSFO  which is which [...]

 

 

 

 

Looks fantastic.

 

Thanks again for all the advice, I do enjoy the "community feel" on these forums a lot.

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Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions, these get me very excited and I might pick up X-Plane as my early Xmas gift to myself ;)

 

 

Small tip, if you can live without beta access, wait a few days maybe 1-2 weeks the most and watch steam sales.  It will most probably come onto the steam christmas sales for 33% or 50% off and by far the cheapest way to get it ;)

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I fly a lot at night and my main problem with P3D was that it looked horrid on night flights. There are some pack for night lighting available like Taburet and ones from Aerosoft but they still cover small area around the plane.

 

You are in for an absolute treat with X-Plane then, it's night lighting is incredible :-)

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Here's a thread that is not even a week old:

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/479749-getting-off-the-ground-again/

 

I want to emphasize that after you have some good world scenery (HD Mesh v2 & World2XPlane) & a good airplane get SkyMaxx pro v3 & FSWRW. If you want to further increase immersion, add PFE with FS ++ PFE plug-in.

 

I have a fully loaded FSX Acceleration available and I find myself only using XP 10. The night lighting is simply stunning and the flight models feel realistic.

 

Since I started using XP 10, I honestly feel that I've become a better sim pilot.

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 Let me get the cookie ;) Choclate chip or strawberry cheesecake ? ;)

 

another giveaway would have been the parking brake at the bottom pic ^^

 

Love Strawberry cheese cake,  would eat it till i burst. 

 

Oh very good,  i didn't cope the bottom left of the screen 

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You are in for an absolute treat with X-Plane then, it's night lighting is incredible :-)

 

The night lighting in your World2XPlane is even better ! There is still a lot of Xplane autogen with no lights, I wish Laminar would fix this. I think they have their art guy tied up with Xplane mobile.

 

By the way, is there a tutorial to install Ortho4XP ? I tried following the install instructions to a T but I could not get it to work. 

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I'm thinking about moving to X-Plane. Have been flying with P3D for quite some time now, nowadays I also almost always fly on VATSIM. 

 

Remember - X-Plane offers a free demonstration version which you can use to get the feel of the product and see how it will perform on your computer system.

 

Visit http://www.x-plane.com/downloads/x-plane_10_demo/ and fetch the demo. The demo is limited to the Seattle area for 15 minutes at a time, but it can certainly give you a feel for things before you make any purchases.

 

Enjoy!

-Greg

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I used the demo for a couple weeks and then bought X Plane. No regrets, love it and now fly it as much as I fly P3D.

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You are in for an absolute treat with X-Plane then, it's night lighting is incredible :-)

Indeed, night lighting (even sunset and dawn) was the main reason I switched to Xplane before discovering the better realism and immersion  of flight.

It still amazes me how real is the feeling taxiing or approaching at night with HDR on compared to the fake lights of FSX. Cannot speak for PR3D last version but by judging reports it's still the same cup of tea.

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let's just phrase it a bit differently. The FSX/P3D or flightsim in general consists of usually men in their 30-60 with disposable income, so the money is usually more readily available. Combine this with a pretty much monopoly for some products you can get away with any price you like.

 

Considering people like Tonywob, AllpilotX, MisterX (and numerous others) create all this donationware (refusing to call it freeware) in their spare time on the side, gives you an idea what some scenery should have been charged on FSX/P3D.

 

Freeware x-plane KSFO  vs. Payware FSX/P3D KSFO  which is which

 

 

MisterX-KSFO-Airport-City-V2-X-Plane.jpg

 

sfo_las_1.jpg

The one on the bottom is FSX/P3D. I can tell because it actually has AI traffic.

 

Can I have a cookie too please? :)

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Well I don't see any AI traffic in either pic but I do know  MrX's KSFO does have tons of parked planes all over the place plus vans and loaders and other vehicles moving around realistically and a marshaller  to great you when you pull up to your gate ---- and it is FREE. 

 

Sorry, I just ate your cookie :)

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Well I don't see any AI traffic in either pic but I do know  MrX's KSFO does have tons of parked planes all over the place plus vans and loaders and other vehicles moving around realistically and a marshaller  to great you when you pull up to your gate ---- and it is FREE. 

 

Sorry, I just ate your cookie :)

 

Sorry Paul - for a moment there, I almost thought I saw some United Airlines tubeliners parked at the gates in the lower picture. My bad.

 

However, I am happy to gift you my cookie as a gesture of P3D/X-plane user solidarity. Enjoy! :wink:

 

P.S. I may even try out the freeware KSFO - I do concur that it does look pretty sweet.

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Thanks, I do agree that X Plane needs some real AI traffic. You can add air traffic by adding the included or payware planes in your Aircraft section but adding anything over 5 starts to eat into my fps. I would like to see AI such as FSX where they use simple shell planes with lower resolution to keep fps up. Also a system where you could then limit the AI to just around where you fly and not globally. 

 

Yes and do try all of Mr X's scenery,,they are all really that good. I also have P3Dv3 and really wish Mr X would make some airports for that as well. 

 

These cookies do taste good. 

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