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Hello Jeff.

 

I must say, having read the Pro Flight 3 spec sheet it looks like a super de lux version of RC4.

 

I have no idea if it interfaces with MCE? That is the question?

 

It has a "try before you buy" download, which is great. What's not great is the free download "locks up" the flight sim after 15 minutes! A big no no, IMHO!

 

The other feature I wasn't keen on was the "automatic" taxi speed function? I don't want an external program "taking control" of my throttles, at any time!

 

I won't be splashing out £35 unless it gets a big "go" from MCE:-)

 

 

Thanks for the heads up though, the program looks interesting!

 

cheers

 

David.

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Hello Jeff.

 

 

The other feature I wasn't keen on was the "automatic" taxi speed function? I don't want an external program "taking control" of my throttles, at any time!

 

I won't be splashing out £35 unless it gets a big "go" from MCE:-)

 

 

Thanks for the heads up though, the program looks interesting!

 

cheers

 

David.

The automatic taxi speed function can be turned off by setting taxi speed to zero on the tweaks page. My VC10 will taxi at idle thrust so I don't need an automatic taxi speed function. But some aircraft may need it so it's a good feature. So if you "don't want an external program "taking control" of your throttles, at any time! just turn that option off.

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The automatic taxi speed function can be turned off by setting taxi speed to zero on the tweaks page. My VC10 will taxi at idle thrust so I don't need an automatic taxi speed function. But some aircraft may need it so it's a good feature. So if you "don't want an external program "taking control" of your throttles, at any time! just turn that option off.

Thank you for that. Control of aircraft systems is not one of my preferred options in any program.

 

Can you offer any positive feed back on the use of the program?

 

 

Are there any video links?

 

How does it compare to Radar Contact v4?

 

Do you use the program with any voice command programs, MCE, fs2crew?

 

Cheers

 

David

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I have no idea if it interfaces with MCE? That is the question?

 

You may not know this David, MCE indeed fully supports PFE ATC (older version V2.15), even under X-Plane.

 

We also plan to fully support the new PF3.

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You may not know this David, MCE indeed fully supports PFE ATC (older version V2.15), even under X-Plane.

 

We also plan to fully support the new PF3.

 

Thank you Gerald.

 

When you fully support it, so will I.

 

 

Cheers

 

David.

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Thank you for that. Control of aircraft systems is not one of my preferred options in any program.

 

Can you offer any positive feed back on the use of the program?

 

 

Are there any video links?

 

How does it compare to Radar Contact v4?

 

Do you use the program with any voice command programs, MCE, fs2crew?

 

Cheers

 

David

I'm hoping to get a video out in the near future but at the moment the recording programme is protesting.

 

No comparison with RC4. It's far superior. It's up to date with current terminology and practices. ICAO compliant (which Pro atc is not). It doesn't p you off if you make a mistake such as an altitude bust. If you don't follow an instruction then that instruction is repeated at an interval you can change. It takes you to and from your gate and you can have a gate reserved for you at your arrival destination too. Go to the website and see everything it can do.

 

I don't use it with a voice command programme. But instead of FS2Crew you could try FDC Live Cockpit also by OnCourse Software (see my sig).

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I've downloaded the demo, but it crashes every time I try to connect to P3DV3.1. I'm running Win 10.

 

Looking at their forums, someone else (today) has exactly the same problem. The developer is looking into it.

 

I've registered there, but have yet to receive my confirmation email...so I can't yet post.

 

I've downloaded and run the latest makerunways and then created the database using their checklist function. Looks like a nice program and hopefully, they will get their demo working so I can give it a go.

 

I rechecked RC4 and it still works just fine.

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I've downloaded the demo, but it crashes every time I try to connect to P3DV3.1. I'm running Win 10.

 

Looking at their forums, someone else (today) has exactly the same problem. The developer is looking into it.

 

I've registered there, but have yet to receive my confirmation email...so I can't yet post.

 

I've downloaded and run the latest makerunways and then created the database using their checklist function. Looks like a nice program and hopefully, they will get their demo working so I can give it a go.

 

I rechecked RC4 and it still works just fine.

 

If you don't get your confirmation drop Dave an email. People using win10 have problems with so much stuff. They sort it and when win 10 does an update it starts all over again!

Let's just say that the UK's largest domestic bank is still rolling out win7 to its staff, (I wonder why) lol

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I've downloaded the demo, but it crashes every time I try to connect to P3DV3.1. I'm running Win 10.

 

Looking at their forums, someone else (today) has exactly the same problem. The developer is looking into it.

 

I've registered there, but have yet to receive my confirmation email...so I can't yet post.

 

I've downloaded and run the latest makerunways and then created the database using their checklist function. Looks like a nice program and hopefully, they will get their demo working so I can give it a go.

 

I rechecked RC4 and it still works just fine.

Dave has found some missing files from the demo download for P3D.  He is working with another DEMO Prepar3D user by email.  Once he confirms it is fixed, he is going to post a new DEMO download.  This can be followed on their forum http://www.ocs-support.co.uk/forums/viewforum.php?f=8

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Dave has found some missing files from the demo download for P3D.  He is working with another DEMO Prepar3D user by email.  Once he confirms it is fixed, he is going to post a new DEMO download.  This can be followed on their forum http://www.ocs-suppo...ewforum.php?f=8

 

Yep...following that same forum topic...

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thanks.

I have a lot of admiration for Dave. He may have a winner here.

tony

I might seem biased. But I agree. The beta team has been working on it pretty much on a daily basis since September last year. We went through 36 iterations. We set Dave a high goal and he's made it. There's still plenty of stuff on the wish list. So when that starts to come through PF3 will be even more polished. I'll try to get a couple of videos out in the next week or so.

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That was me with the crashes. Problem solved Remove all fsx.exe, fs9.exe and fs2000.exe that have been placed in P3D by the Estonian tool. Then startmkrunways.exe and update the database in PF3. This will do the trick.

 

Additionally, two files were missing in the demo. I think the author has updated it now.

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I'm hoping to get a video out in the near future but at the moment the recording programme is protesting.

 

No comparison with RC4. It's far superior. It's up to date with current terminology and practices. ICAO compliant (which Pro atc is not). It doesn't p you off if you make a mistake such as an altitude bust. If you don't follow an instruction then that instruction is repeated at an interval you can change. It takes you to and from your gate and you can have a gate reserved for you at your arrival destination too. Go to the website and see everything it can do.

 

I don't use it with a voice command programme. But instead of FS2Crew you could try FDC Live Cockpit also by OnCourse Software (see my sig).

Thanks.

 

I have read all the features and again I can say it looks superior to RC4.

 

As Gerald said, MCE did work with the older program and the MCE lads are looking to integrate support for the new program in future.

 

I like the taxi guidance feature. Using GSX in P3dv3 with W7, the follow me car now has a serious issue with navigating you to your chosen gate! In fact its useless at large airports with many gates/Taxiways. Unless you are at a US airport, Sky Vector has no airport plans, so navigating on the ground is more problematic than in the air!! Spoken guidance is on offer at real world airports, so its logical and most welcome in our simulator! After all arn't we simulating the real world?

 

I wish the dev team well. I copy what you say re W10! The devs have a lot of issues with all the o/s and sim version changes that inevitably force changes upon their previously working programs. I am sticking with W7 and P3dv3, because everything I currently have installed works.

 

Since I use MCE exclusively, when PF3 gets MCE support I will give it serious consideration for sure!

 

Cheers

 

David.

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Thanks.

 

I have read all the features and again I can say it looks superior to RC4.

 

As Gerald said, MCE did work with the older program and the MCE lads are looking to integrate support for the new program in future.

 

I like the taxi guidance feature. Using GSX in P3dv3 with W7, the follow me car now has a serious issue with navigating you to your chosen gate! In fact its useless at large airports with many gates/Taxiways. Unless you are at a US airport, Sky Vector has no airport plans, so navigating on the ground is more problematic than in the air!! Spoken guidance is on offer at real world airports, so its logical and most welcome in our simulator! After all arn't we simulating the real world?

 

I wish the dev team well. I copy what you say re W10! The devs have a lot of issues with all the o/s and sim version changes that inevitably force changes upon their previously working programs. I am sticking with W7 and P3dv3, because everything I currently have installed works.

 

Since I use MCE exclusively, when PF3 gets MCE support I will give it serious consideration for sure!

 

Cheers

 

David.

I don't think you'll be disappointed. I resolved the issue with my recording software. But it has been replaced with another short term. The cabin safety briefing in my aircraft has gone on strike. I'll sort that out tomorrow then I can plan a video.

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I don't think you'll be disappointed. I resolved the issue with my recording software. But it has been replaced with another short term. The cabin safety briefing in my aircraft has gone on strike. I'll sort that out tomorrow then I can plan a video.

 

I know the feeling re videos! They are incredibly time consuming to do well and if your making a tutorial, to get all your points over :-)

 

I sometimes get aircraft taking off from the runway I have just been cleared to land on, in the opposite direction! RC4 not seeing all the traffic all the time! :-) Always need to have the go around planned and briefed! LOL!

 

 

Cheers

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You may not know this David, MCE indeed fully supports PFE ATC (older version V2.15), even under X-Plane.

 

We also plan to fully support the new PF3.

Hi juste to be clear Will MCE and PFE 3 work with x plane 10 ?

 

and will it use x plane 10 Navedata ??

 

Thanks

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You may not know this David, MCE indeed fully supports PFE ATC (older version V2.15), even under X-Plane.

 

We also plan to fully support the new PF3.

 

Gerald,

I notice reading the PFE3 user guide, that it supports the Virtual CoPilot handling the comms, as I think so does PFE2. Just wondering how this works with MCE, since only William and Linda's voices in MCE will handle COMMS with RC4. Does one have to use the PFE CoPilot voice to handle the COMMS, and just interface with the MCE pilot for other VC activity? Perhaps finding a PFE CoPilot voice that is similar to an MCE one.

 

I really like the realism of having the PNF handling the COMMS, as inreal life

 

Stuart

It has a "try before you buy" download, which is great. What's not great is the free download "locks up" the flight sim after 15 minutes! A big no no, IMHO!

 

I think it just temporarily pauses flight every 15mins, allowing one to continue, but the demo is limited to a flight plan of 200 miles.

 

Stuart

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I really like the realism of having the PNF handling the COMMS, as inreal life

 

+1. Its Lorna btw:-)

 

I think it just temporarily pauses flight every 15mins, allowing one to continue, but the demo is limited to a flight plan of 200 miles.

 

That's ok. When MCE supports it with our voice packs and our voice commands, I will look very closely at this. Until then RC4 isn't all that bad! I strayed off a STAR route today, ( one I constructed from real world and made INS coordinates for. RC4 gave me a response I have never herd before and I must have several hundred hours with it!:-)

 

Like you say, the radio com's over to the FO is a great feature. With a triple crew (707/727/Tristar) you can run checklists and flows while the FO is replying to ATC. You just have to listen to three people at once, which only the human ear is capable of....great realism!

 

Regards

David

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+1. Its Lorna btw:-)

 

Sorry Lorna!

 

I guess like you, I'll wait and see whether MCE needs adjustment to support it fully.

I have downloaded the demo, just to explore it, but like you I have used RC4 for years, and being one of the pilot voices on RC4, will carry on using it no doubt.

BTW I have just completed the MCE voice set, although may need to redo some. So watch the MCE space as hopefully you will have another voice soon to add to William and Lorna!

 

Cheers,

Stuart

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and being one of the pilot voices on RC4, will carry on using it no doubt.

 

Oh my word! You don't have the Yorkshire accent do you by any chance?

 

What with my Lancashire tones, it'll be a right old derby soon!!:-):-):-)

 

watch the MCE space as hopefully you will have another voice soon to add to William and Lorna!

 

Great news. We need another radio operator!

 

Regards

 

David

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Sorry to disappoint David,

Born in South London, and lived all my 60 years in Kent.

 

Cheers,

Stuart

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