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Aerosoft Airbus checklist hangs after engine start

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Too often the Airbus checklist stops working during engine start and pushback and there is no way to fix things. I can load the taxi state but then I can be sure take off will be screwed up or cruise. Is anyone else having the same problems with that checklist? I just restarted a flight from scratch two times (so I tried it three times in a row, starting all over again everytime) and everytime the checklist failed. Never been as bad as this.

 

Sometimes I really utterly totally hate this hobby. A nice evening screwed up by an addon that refuses to do what it should do. What a total waste of time.

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Yep, if things don't work exactly as expected, the checklists hangs up and

may start again at any later time. I haven't even found a way to stop the

checklist after it does this, and it would be really nice to be able to stop

it saying "Baro reference" or something else over and over again.

 

I am considering to get FS2Crew because of this. Can anyone compare the checklist

to FS2Crew?

 

Peter

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So at what item does the checklist hang? Do you engine start during pushback? What selection of pushback do you use i.e. AES, GSX, etc.?

 

Usually get the Wait sign as the GSX guy completes the pushback cart unhook. then the system starts the After Start Checklist.

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The checklist usually hangs after starting the engines. Ground tells me it's okay to start, I start engine 2 and engine 1 (while pushback is in progress) and both are called out by the copilot (btw I only have the pilot checklists enabled). After the engines have started the pilot should say so but that doesn't happen and from there on it remains silent. 'Starting engine 1' is the last thing I hear.

 

I am using the Airbus pushback option but also without pushback (engine start only) it went wrong. I don't use AES or GSX.

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Do you get the "Engine 1 stable" announcement?

 

Try it with the co-pilot flipping the switches and see if it hangs. If it doesn't then you'll know you are missing something and its not the Bus.

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I was a Beta Tester for this aircraft (guess I still am... :wink:) , and I don't recall this happening with version 1.31 so long as the procedure in Volume 2 was followed. It's likely that the copilot script is waiting for a particular action to take place before it will move on (as a script, things have to be done and done in order otherwise it will hang).

 

The only time I used the Copilot was for testing, and I'd encourage folks to omit using the copilot function after they've learned the aircraft procedures - faster, more flexible and can help to learn more about the aircraft and how the systems function.

 

I hope this has been helpful, and send my very best to everyone!

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When you start engine 2 first, are you waiting for it to stabilize before starting engine 1?

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Do you get the "Engine 1 stable" announcement?

 

No, "Startin engine 1" is the last thing I hear.

 

 

 

The only time I used the Copilot was for testing, and I'd encourage folks to omit using the copilot function after they've learned the aircraft procedures - faster, more flexible and can help to learn more about the aircraft and how the systems function.

 

I never ever used the copilot because it takes way too much out of my greedy hands. :wink:

 

 

When you start engine 2 first, are you waiting for it to stabilize before starting engine 1?

 

Good one, no I don't. I usually start Engine 1 before Engine 2 is stabilized. Usually this doesn't give me any problems.... well, so I thought, but maybe that's what causing my problem. I just had a look at the tutorial pdf and noticed it says that you can start Engine 1 as soon as Engine 2 N1 is above 20%. I will do just that.

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Yeah my AS Airbus is fine unless I start the other engine too quickly, so perhaps it's that? Although that's pretty obvious when it happens on the N1 inidcators.

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the baro reference thing, you can just leave the qnh blank on the approach page, when you cross through the transition altitude just push B and you will never hear that bug again

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When you start engine 2 first, are you waiting for it to stabilize before starting engine 1?

 

Greg, you are my hero of the day!!! This was it! As I posted in my previous reply the tutorial says you have to wait with starting engine 1 until Engine 2 N2 is above 20% so I just started a flight and decided to take some extra time and waited until Engine 2 N2 was <50% and then I started engine 1. Almost at the same time I got the message Engine 2 was stabilized and the checklist proceeded without any problems! Engine 1 was stablized, I had to set the parking brake and so on. Great.

 

But well... of course this has happened before so I decided to test if this REALLY was the problem: I quit P3D, restarted it and set up the exact same flight, ran through all procedurs again but this time I switched the engine 2 and 1 on directly after on another, so within a second. And yes... the checklist stopped! Nothing happened! Both engines were stabilized, pushback had stopped, but the checklist did nothing anymore!

 

Apparently the checklist script is waiting for Engine 2 to reach a certain level with Engine 1 still being turned off so... to test if this was indeed true I decided if I could force the script to proceed by turning the already stabilized Engine 1 off again, which would give the checklist script what it presumably wanted. And yes: as soon as I turned off Engine 1 I immediately heard 'Engine 2 stabilzed". After that I started Engine 1 once more and the checklist proceeded without problems.

 

Thanks for setting my on the right track!!!

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You should get FS2Crew

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You should get FS2Crew

David, do you own FS2Crew for the A320? If yes, could you comment on the differences?

 

Thanks,

Peter

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The script waits for Engine 2 being stabilized as it's normal procedure to start Engine #2 first (unless a single engine taxi will be performed, then it's Engine 1 first).

 

Happy Flights!

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You should get FS2Crew

 

 

I see no reason why I should. I only see a reason why I should NOT get it and that's the awfully big interface you get onscreen. I like it that the Airbus checklist simply works with the right MCDU. Any reason why I should get FSCrew? I used it for the 737NGX (years ago) and I don't know if you can compare that one with the Airbus version but I like the Aerosoft checklist a LOT more than FS2crew.

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I see no reason why I should. I only see a reason why I should NOT get it and that's the awfully big interface you get onscreen

 

 wow  big  interface   define  big,  since  yours  must be  different  to the one  iam using,  also you don't  need  to be displayed  on the screen if  you don't  want  to

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 wow  big  interface   define  big,  since  yours  must be  different  to the one  iam using,  also you don't  need  to be displayed  on the screen if  you don't  want  to

 

 

Define big: bigger than nothing on screen at all.  :wink: And I seem to remember I had to have it on screen to change things? Anyway, what does the FS2Crew version offer that the included checklist don't offer?

 

EDIT

You are probably talking about the voice control version: that's a no go for me.

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You are probably talking about the voice control version: that's a no go for me.

 

 

Yes  your  right  iam using  the  voice  option way better  than  using  the button version imo.   As  iam with you on the  aerosoft  since  I have  it  as well and  find  the check list that comes  with it  is  good  enough  to use.  Getting back to the interface  since  atc  addons  use  some  sort  of  interface   as well,  are  they  just as  big as fscrew   ones  and  you  can  resize  the interface  as  well  in the fscrew  I believe 

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The script waits for Engine 2 being stabilized as it's normal procedure to start Engine #2 first (unless a single engine taxi will be performed, then it's Engine 1 first).

 

Happy Flights!

I just tested this and the script doesn't wait for engine 2 to be stabilized in order to proceed: it waits for one engine to have N2 >20% while the other is still completely off. So this means you do not have to wait until engine 2 is completely stabilized before you can start engine 1: you can start engine 1 as soon as engine 2 N2 is above 20%, which is after some 6 seconds already. This will enable the checklist to proceed. Starting the next engine when N2 is >20% will pause the checklist. This is also why turning off an engine (when you started both too soon) will force the checklist to proceed again: that will give the checklist the situation it was waiting for.

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Some things should not need explaining. But if you perfure the Aerosoft Bus over the PMDG 73x then best to not bother.

 

Why not make it do the captains flows as well, then you do just about nothing.  :smile: and it will not trip up the flows.

 

BTW it should be 50% before you start the other engine. But  smack it on after 20 if you wish  :wink: it wont break.

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Some things should not need explaining. But if you perfure the Aerosoft Bus over the PMDG 73x then best to not bother.

 

Why not make it do the captains flows as well, then you do just about nothing.  :smile: and it will not trip up the flows.

Yes, I prefer the Airbus over the 737 so thanks, I won't bother. ;) And thanks for not explaining.

 

And btw I have the copilot checklist disabled so there is enough to do for me. I don't have the feeling at all that I am doing nothing. The Airbus offers exactly what I like in an airliner so I am very happy with it.

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The Airbus offers exactly what I like in an airliner so I am very happy with it.

 

Ditto.

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The Airbus offers exactly what I like in an airliner so I am very happy with it.

Thats great.

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Love the bus,,,love the auto checklist,,,if it stalls just hit "skip".

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