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hi guys, i just finished putting together a new rig and everything went well until the last minute (murphy's law ofcourse)...where my FSX is experiencing occasional crashes and i  am not sure where to start fixing this. I removed PMDG 737 and still have crashes. So the easy question to anyone out there using FSX with win10: are there any specific setting i should use and mostly not use? direct x 10? anything else? other that this is workign pretty well i must say. I am like that close to perfection if only i didn't have this random crashes.

thank you

Andrea De Biase

 

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Be more specific with crashes, what kind of crash? what error messages in the windows logs and messages on the screen? Have you followed the avsim guide for setting up your fsx like highmemfix and the uianimationcore? - David Lee

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Hey Andrea,

 

You may want to check out the following link :

http://www.simforums.com/forums/the-fsx-computer-system-the-bible-by-nickn_topic46211.html

 

I followed this religiously when setting up my then brand-new system two years ago and have not had any issues with FSX to this day.  I'm not sure if all of this would work under Windows 10 as well though.  Hope this helps.

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thank I will install as per instructions. Here is the crash report if you care about checking it out....

It's another language to me

Andrea De Biase

 

 

 

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EventType=BEX
EventTime=131053096592113849
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NsPartner=windows
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The piece of information that I keyed into, maybe incorrectly, was that this is a BEX error. There is much out there on the Buffer Overflow Exception as well as the exception code that translates into unauthorized access violation.  Many things can cause it, even an antivirus program. Don't use the DX10 stuff, Windows 10 is at DX12 so I'm not sure what you gain.

 

I just finished a new build a couple weeks ago and ran into problems with NVidia drivers.... in my opinion all the drivers numbered 362 and higher are buggy. I am sticking to 361.43 for now.

 

Good luck.

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I am actually not using any Direct X 10.

I uninstalled everything and reinstalled FSX Sp1 and Sp2. I am running it without any add on. Sliders in the middle to not over-stress the system and flying a default Cessna. Looks beautiful until it crashes and it may take 1h to crash. When i go an look at the report I get the same BEX error pasted below. I am doing some homework on line and seems to be related to DEP (Data Execution Prevention) a feature than can be disabled BUT no in WinX, not for FSX. When i add it to the list of program exempted from DEP it tells me no no....

I am not surrendered though...i'll get this sucker to work sooner or later in Win 10.

I also started implementing some suggestion from the aforementioned "bible" (man is long to read) including the  highmemfix and the uianimationcore and flying as we speak...until next crash. BTW the crash is just a pop up saying windows encountered a problem and needs to close FSX...(thanks!!!).

Also keep in mind that this is a new rig. Other than Win10 and updated drivers i installed NOTHING. This morning i did install another program which is pretty heavy on CPU and memory just to be sure the PC i put together is solid and I got no crashes or anything. I think my hardware and OS are pretty ok! it;s just that FSX and this new rig are yet not gettign along too well.

Thank you all. Will keep you updated

Andrea De Biase

 
Summary
Stopped working
 
Date
?4/?17/?2016 12:12 PM
 
Status
Report sent
 
Description
Faulting Application Path: C:\Game\fsx.exe
 
Problem signature
Problem Event Name: BEX
Application Name: fsx.exe
Application Version: 10.0.61472.0
Application Timestamp: 475e17d3
Fault Module Name: StackHash_a3dc
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000
Exception Offset: PCH_67_FROM_ntdll+0x0007718C
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Data: 00000008
OS Version: 10.0.10586.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: a3dc
Additional Information 2: a3dc5dbdb64b01201fd6b823fc873afe
Additional Information 3: c1b4
Additional Information 4: c1b4db9116a20ea638fa176b59edcdb7

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I don't think is the drivers. They are the most up to date. And sure is not PMDG as it wasn;t installed yet. It's an issue with FSX and Win 10. Anyway. it's been almost 48 hours that i have been flying non stop  and not crashes...for now..... I think highmemfix and the uianimationcore did it! along with some other controlling features of Win 10 that i was able to disable.

Keeping finger crossed.

 

btw

WIn 10 is pretty sweet!! boots in like 5 seconds!

 

Andrea De Biase

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As I already anticipated I finally managed to fix all the critical crashes of FSX in Win 10, finally i can complete a flight but I have one last annoyance left which is not critical but an annoyance nevertheless and happens only with PMDG 737.

 

When I end the flight crashes my FSX! this is what i get:

 

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: fsx.exe
Application Version: 10.0.61472.0
Application Timestamp: 475e17d3
Fault Module Name: PMDG_737NGX.DLL
Fault Module Version: 1.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 55119308
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0002d470
OS Version: 10.0.10586.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033
 
any fix for this?
thank you
Andrea De Biase

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When I end the flight crashes my FSX!

 

Known issue. How are you ending your flights?

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ALT>Flights>End Flight

did you mean how I leave the plane when i exit? (dark cold vs running)

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ALT>Flights>End Flight

 

Use CTRL+C, ALT-F4, or the X at the top right of the screen.

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that works but closes FSX and doesn't bring you to the main menu. I can totally live with this...just checking if a fix was known

thank you

Andrea De Biase

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that works but closes FSX and doesn't bring you to the main menu.

 

Well, and so does the crash, but with an application error... :wink:

 

I wouldn't recommend going back to the FSX menu to then start a new flight, by the way. Although I personally never experience any crashes on exiting - maybe because I use the Steam Edition -  it's always better to restart the simulator. Otherwise weird things can happen. For example: When I start a flight with the NGX, exit it and immediately start it again, my outside cameras are always messed up and way closer to the aircraft as they ought to be.

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that works but closes FSX and doesn't bring you to the main menu. I can totally live with this...just checking if a fix was known

thank you

Andrea De Biase

Had the exact same problem.  Reverted back to Windows 7, completely cured the problem.

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Had the exact same problem.  Reverted back to Windows 7, completely cured the problem.

Trust me it crossed my mind many times but a) i already purchased a copy of Win 10 and is not returnable and B) Win 7 is on it's way out. Ultimately it is in the best interest to make FSX work on Win 10 and now it does

 

Andrea De Biase

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