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Has anyone been able to get the autopilot to work consistently?

 

Autopilot on/off switch only goes up, not down..

I guess it is right click left click only :wink:

 

Pitch mode sometimes activates, sometimes not..

 

Left click and mouse wheel confusion..

 

The popup autopilot seems to have the pitch wheel wired backwards..

 

Need to locate the manual for the real world unit and figure out how it is

supposed to work..

 

Edit: Found a Century III manual in my stack of things....

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Has anyone been able to get the autopilot to work consistently?

 

Autopilot on/off switch only goes up, not down..

I guess it is right click left click only :wink:

 

Pitch mode sometimes activates, sometimes not..

 

Left click and mouse wheel confusion..

 

The popup autopilot seems to have the pitch wheel wired backwards..

 

Need to locate the manual for the real world unit and figure out how it is

supposed to work..

 

Edit: Found a Century III manual in my stack of things....

Hi Bert.. The pitch wheel is working ok on mine, push mouse wheel forward to reduce pitch down and pull mouse wheel towards me to pitch up...same on both pop up and vc

the auto pilot switch left click ..up right click down.

if you had ask the question yester day the answer would have been different because the pitch button wasn't working, ie it was moving together the 'ALT' button. most odd

 

bob edit that's testing it on tarmac, !!

edit2 after takeoff now not working, acting as above

edit 3 After take off now not working, so if I turn off the 'RCLL' switch (+ HDG, ALT and PITCH ) and then turn the 'PITCH back on I can have the function to switch between 'ALT and 'PITCH.

 

edit 4 The HDG switch needs to be off.

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According to the manual, HDG mode on the autopilot is modified by the Source Controller, from NAV to HDG.

 

Can anyone confirm that you need to select Heading to have NAV control?

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According to the manual, HDG mode on the autopilot is modified by the Source Controller, from NAV to HDG.

 

Can anyone confirm that you need to select Heading to have NAV control?

entering a vor and tuning the course select and switching the LGS to either OMNI or NAV will fly the bearing.

I did note however flying a 'DIRECT-TO' the OMNI setting was required.( with the GPS)

 

bob

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Bert, 

 

I started off with HDG selected, flew 10 miles or so then entered a direct course into the GTN 750 and then hit NAV and she picked up the new course and disengaged the HDG.

 

Cheers

Martin

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If I read the factory manual correctly, to get NAV tracking, you should switch off HDG, turn the selector to NAV, and then re-engage HDG.

 

Quoting from the manual:

 

The heading mode switch is located directly adjacent and
to the right of the roll engage switch. It is the function of
the heading mode switch to remove the roll command
knob from the autopilot circuit and add the D.G., heading
command and coupler functions to the basic roll attitude
control. This switch is interlocked with the roll engage so
that the roll function will be engaged simultaneously with
the heading mode switch. Prior to engagement of the
heading mode, the D.G. course selector and coupler
modes should be set. (See sections on coupler operation
when optional coupler is installed.)

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It doesn't appear it is modeled correctly if that is the case.  If you click on HDG after selector to NAV, HDG takes over? 

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Correct, and worse than that, if you are in NAV and ALT mode, and dare to engage Pitch

mode, you lose the NAV tracking  :fool:

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Remember to engage the ROLL Axis switch (after engaging the Master Autopilot switch first) before trying to engage anything else. I needs to be on before any other mode will work. I've not tried it, but I did read that in the enclosed manual.

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Correct, and worse than that, if you are in NAV and ALT mode, and dare to engage Pitch

mode, you lose the NAV tracking  :fool:

 

Yes, agree.

 

Carenado have been using this AP in a number of planes, since the Commander 114, Bert.  It's just a slave of the default autopilot.    Pitch hold will come on when the unit is turned on (even without pressing the 'Pitch' button), and ALT is not selected.    But if you later have ALT on and turn it off, and turn pitch on, the (default) AP "resets" and you lose your lateral setting.    You can get around it by using the FSUIPC key assignment for AP PITCH HOLD.    If you press your assigned key for that, while ALT is on, the AP will correctly switch to Pitch mode and the lateral setting will be maintained.

 

It doesn't appear it is modeled correctly if that is the case. If you click on HDG after selector to NAV, HDG takes over?

That's right. The Nav control does not work realistically (with the Omni rotary selecter).   As the AP here is nothing more than the default AP, it's only interested in basic AP HDG HOLD or AP NAV HOLD modes. Exactly as said above, if you turn the selector to NAV but then press the HDG switch, it will turn HDG HOLD on - incorrect behaviour.

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Please send you problem reports to Carenado directly, only they can fix this.

 

Unfortunately we, the users do not have access to the autopilot code that is embedded in the model, only the 2d popup can be edited..

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Unfortunately, I doubt they'll see this as a "fix".   More just "limitations of the FSX autopilot"  :wink:   /  partial simulation of the featured unit.

 

Ticket sent though - we can always live in hope.

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Unfortunately, I doubt they'll see this as a "fix".   More just "limitations of the FSX autopilot"  :wink:   /  partial simulation of the featured unit.

 

Ticket sent though - we can always live in hope.

Tried your suggestion of using the key assignment but couldn't spot the 'AP PITCH HOLD' in the list. (P3D v3.23)

 

bob

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Would someone please check something on their install?

 

I am fussing with the autopilot code, but am stuck on the PITCH button.

 

On my system, if I have the autopilot engaged, in HDG mode, I cannot engage PITCH.

 

I  cannot identify why this would be...  can someone confirm if they are experiencing the same issue?

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On my system, if I have the autopilot engaged, in HDG mode, I cannot engage PITCH.

I cannot identify why this would be... can someone confirm if they are experiencing the same issue?

 

I can confirm that.

 

Also, if PITCH is disengaged I get a very awkward number in the mouse tooltip.

(instead of -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, etc)

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Thanks for the confirmation.. I wish I could figure out the reason  :nea:

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Would someone please check something on their install?

 

I am fussing with the autopilot code, but am stuck on the PITCH button.

 

On my system, if I have the autopilot engaged, in HDG mode, I cannot engage PITCH.

 

I  cannot identify why this would be...  can someone confirm if they are experiencing the same issue?

same here Bert

 

bob

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Yes, same her Bert, but if I don't try and engage it and just mouse the wheel of the PITCH up or down it works fine. When I click the PITCH, nothing happens but the sound of it clicking and then I get the same crazy numbers shown in the tool tip as mentioned above??  It seems to work by doing nothing.....yikes!

 

Cheers

Martin

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Yes, same her Bert, but if I don't try and engage it and just mouse the wheel of the PITCH up or down it works fine. When I click the PITCH, nothing happens but the sound of it clicking and then I get the same crazy numbers shown in the tool tip as mentioned above??  It seems to work by doing nothing.....yikes!

 

Cheers

Martin

I'm finding the 'PITCH' switch needs two clicks.

 

bob

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And here I was, on the fence with this one, thinking "Oh good, at least it's got the AP in the VC on a very nice, accessible spot on the panel". :wink:

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Well! after spending hours testing I appear to have it working, had a problem with it drifting off course, did notice in spot view the rudder was way out, re calibrated in FSuipc4 but to no avail so switched to 'Auto Rudder' and it now looks like its working, surely it can't be this.

 

bob

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I love flying this plane, but I too am having problems with the autopilot. Hope they can fix it.

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To properly use the AP, I have followed these steps:

First thing to do is to select HDG in the vertical switch located in front of the co-pilot seat (the white one to the left side)

 

- Select the desired HDG using the HDG selector in the ADI (rotating tab)

- Press ROLL and then HDG in the AP minipanel

- Engage AP by clicking the switch selector (located at the left side of the AP panel) to ON

- I recommend adjusting the HDG (in the ADI) in small steps to get to the desired value. You should be flying the selected HDG at all times, step by step, until the getting to the final desired HDG

 

In case you need to change your flight level, do the following:

 

- Keep the AP ON with HDG selected

- Rotate the VS wheel in the right direction (try for yourself to figure it out, using your mouse wheel or clicking) and set the desired VS in FPM as per the dial indicator

- Try not to use the PITCH switch, but in case you use it, click it twice (in my setup the switch does not move in or out, unless ALT mode is engaged - a bug, probably) and adjust always using the pitch wheel

- At this time, you should be changing the flight level with the already selected HDG

 

In case you need to track your GPS (GTN or GNS), do the following:

Obviously you had already set your flight plan, etc., in your GTN/GNS device.

 

- Once near the track path, move the white selector witch to the NAV position to intercept the desired track

- Your plane should change its HDG to track the selected flight plan and follow it

 

In case you have reached your desired flight level:

 

- Press the ALT switch in the AP panel. The aircraft will slowly point its nose up/down until the desired ALT is reached

 

If you want to change your flight level again from the current selected altitude:

 

- Press the ALT switch in the AP panel to disengage ALT control

- Press the PITCH switch in the AP panel and after use the VS rotary wheel to select your rate of ascent/descent in FPS

- Once the desired flight level is reached press the ALT switch again

 

I lost the NAV track once during a flight after selecting a new flight level (I do not why), but I put it back to normal using the vertical white selector moving it to HDG and then back to NAV again.

 

Hope this explanation is useful for those having trouble in using the AP.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

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Ed,

 

Thanks for posting, I'll try this and see how she works.

 

Cheers

Martin 

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I'm using the same process as Ed and AP seems to be working ... key was to Press ROLL button.

 

Cheers, Rob.

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