June 8, 20169 yr Author Hi, Well, the updates just keep on coming... would be nice if I could purchase Win 7 Pro disc with all the updates included. :smile: Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
June 8, 20169 yr Commercial Member Hi, Well, the updates just keep on coming... would be nice if I could purchase Win 7 Pro disc with all the updates included. :smile: Win 10 Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
June 8, 20169 yr First a serious question - Just wondering why you went with the Nochua vs. Water cooling ? Do you plan to de-lid the chip or does this one ship with TIM ? As second the lame comment - I think they DVD burner is the weak point of this setup. All the best. Mark CYYZ
June 8, 20169 yr Commercial Member I've had a drive mess me around recently and because it's a RAID10 array I just swapped it out so the array rebuilt. And I didn't need to restore the backup from the day before, possibly losing up to a days work. I'd still be installing my system a week later if I only had the one drive. Although with four drives that's four times as likely to suffer a drive fault. The drive that went flaky was in the hottest location at the end slot. That's using 4 raptor class hard drives. I would like to see how a RAID1 pair of M.2 drives go. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
June 8, 20169 yr Author Hi, The system is running at 3.5 right now via MSI's Gaming O/C button. Nice and simple I like that, next I'll try the O/C button that will take it to 4GHZ. But not until I get Win 7 updated. Decided against water because I don't plan on overclocking in the future, I'll be running seven computers to run P3D3.3... Don't think I'll need to overclock. As far as the DVD burner, it was only used to install win 7 Pro, I have them on DVD. I also have some other flightsim software on DVD, once the software is installed the drive will collect dust in the system. This is a F/S only setup. I won't go to Win 10, don't want Windows updating my six figure sim with some drivers I don't want and/or need only to screw up the entire setup. Thanks Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
June 8, 20169 yr Commercial Member Win 10? Only pulling your leg Mike. I think that a BD reader would be a more reliable method of reading dodgy DVDs. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
June 8, 20169 yr Hi, Well, the updates just keep on coming... would be nice if I could purchase Win 7 Pro disc with all the updates included. :smile: You might not be able to buy a disc with all the updates included but you can, for about the last month, get a rollup package from Microsoft which includes most updates that were released after the release of SP1 for Windows 7 through to April 2016. See here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3125574. i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
June 8, 20169 yr First a serious question - Just wondering why you went with the Nochua vs. Water cooling ? Do you plan to de-lid the chip or does this one ship with TIM ? Decided against water because I don't plan on overclocking in the future, Why do you both think the Noctua is inferior? It's not. The D15 or D15S is perfectly capable of handling decent overclocks. Skylake up to 4.8, Broadwell is no issue. Surprising how many people think they "must" go for water. Broadwell-E is soldered. It can still be delidded, if you dare. Westman posted a video recently. Gain was only 10 degrees but it can be done. The Indium solder is very soft and can be knifed off.
June 8, 20169 yr Why do you both think the Noctua is inferior? It's not. The D15 or D15S is perfectly capable of handling decent overclocks. Skylake up to 4.8, Broadwell is no issue. Surprising how many people think they "must" go for water. Broadwell-E is soldered. It can still be delidded, if you dare. Westman posted a video recently. Gain was only 10 degrees but it can be done. The Indium solder is very soft and can be knifed off. Actually I think it is a great cooler and I have the NH-14 on my system. I was just interested in the choice with the new chips as they have been reported to run hotter and water cooling may be needed to get the desired overclock. Even better delid, change tim and then use a water cooler....up to 20 degree difference. These are on the Skylake chips, I am not sure about the chip used here. Mark CYYZ
June 8, 20169 yr Author Hi, Looks like Windows updates are complete. Time to install P3D3.3. Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
June 9, 20169 yr Add my vote to M.2's ... price to performance, much better than standard SSDs. I didn't realize you were running 3-way SLI, you might want to consider the Asus X99-E WS/USB 3.1 motherboard as it can support quad X16 lanes. That MSI board is 2 x16 and 1 x8. Cheers, Rob. EDIT: you'll probably only be GPU limited with 3-way SLI if you run SGSS AA at 4K in dense clouds
June 9, 20169 yr Author Hi Rob, One video board will remain when I'm done. With that said, windows 7 is giving me all kinds of hell. It just won't install correctly, after install the next boot, it needs to be repaired. Time and time again. I'm done, I going to order four 6700K's from JET LINE systems tomorrow. Just built my last system, it's just not worth the grief anymore. Just about ready to take this $1,700. chip and $400.00 motherboard and go target shooting. Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
June 9, 20169 yr It just won't install correctly, after install the next boot, it needs to be repaired. Did you remove the DVD before it reboots? What is the boot order in your BIOS/EFI?? It's possible the reboot is just booting back into the DVD think which then think it needs repairing. Cheers, Rob.
June 9, 20169 yr Author Hey Rob, Nope, it happens irregardless of DVD. Maybe windows does not know how to deal with the new equipment, either way I'm done building... It used to be fun, I've built numerous setups over the years as I chased hardware to keep my sim the best it could be... To be frank, I p####d away a ton of cash on this hobby. I just don't have the patients and/or desire to build them anymore. Bios is SSD then DVD, it's right Rob. After this, I'd still have four more to build. I'm giving the job to Jetline. Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
June 9, 20169 yr Mike, Don't shoot the build! You can send it to me and I promise to take a baseball bat to it if it ever acts up again! Just trying to be of special assistance. Kind regards,
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