October 14, 20169 yr Hi guys. I am writing because in recent time I've noticed that texutre loading got lot worse than it was before. About a month ago I uptated to version 3.4 (everything but scenery). Not sure if that is the reason, but I've just spotted this horrible loading of autogen and it is really painful over big cities... My specs are i7 4790k @4.7 and nvidia gtx980... Drivers are updated.. What could be the trick? Down is link to video... check it out, watch till the end (settings can be seen). Thanks for assistance... Link: https://youtu.be/oHpL7su6-N8
October 14, 20169 yr This looks definitely not normal. Have you applied any AFFINITYMASK tweaks? I remember having a similar issue when I played around with Affinitymask settings in the prepar3d.cfg. If you are not sure, your best bet would be to delete the prepar3d.cfg and let the program rebuild a new one.
October 14, 20169 yr I am not sure but it looks like Autogen loading per tile to me. Look in you P3D.cfg file for the line Prevent Autogen Popups and male sure it is set to 1.. Good luck. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 14, 20169 yr Author Hi guys, thanks for replies... Deleted .cfg and now without any of tweaks, situation is pretty simmilar... I also reverted nvidia driver to one form february... But still not alpha fade These poppups are really disgusting... What to do? Dont even know what caused this! I didn't do nothing special in last two months except upgrading to 3.4 version and some driver updates... Tweaks can't be reason as this happens also with brand new .cfg file... Link to video recorded after deleting p3d.cfg file: .cfg: [AContain] EnableRibbonVisuals=0 LabelColor=FFFF0000 LabelDelay=1000 RibbonFidelity=5.000000 RibbonMaxDistance=3218.689941 ShowLabelAirline=0 ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0 ShowLabelAirspeed=0 ShowLabelAltitude=1 ShowLabelContainerId=0 ShowLabelDistance=1 ShowLabelFlightPlan=0 ShowLabelHeading=0 ShowLabelManufacturer=1 ShowLabelModel=1 ShowLabels=0 ShowLabelTailNumber=0 ShowRibbonAircraftAI=0 ShowRibbonGroundAI=0 ShowRibbonUser=0 ShowUserLabel=0 [ATC] AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1 COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=0XFF8C00 COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=0X00008B COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=0X006400 COMM_MSG_ATIS_COLOR=00000000 COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=0XA52A2A PilotVoice=0 ShowATCText=1 UsePilotVoice=1 [ATTACHMENTS] AutoWeaponSwitching=False HighlightDuration=1.000000 IgnoreAttachmentForces=False IgnoreAttachmentWeight=False UnlimitedCountermeasures=False UnlimitedWeapons=False WeaponHighlight=False [Avatar] DefaultAvatar=Frank Aerosoft, Pilot Male with High Viz Jacket [CONTROLS] Controls_Current=Standard Controls_Default=Standard KBDAIL=64 KBDELEV=64 KBDRUD=64 [DISPLAY] ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64 ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 ChangeTime=4.000000 Fullscreen=False FullScreenAutoFill=True FullScreenBackground=True FXAA=1 InfoBrakesEnable=False InfoCountermeasureEnable=False InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255 InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255 InfoOverspeedEnable=True InfoParkingBrakesEnable=False InfoPauseEnable=True InfoSlewEnable=False InfoStallEnable=False InfoUpperLeftBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0 InfoUpperLeftTextColorNonUser=255,127,0 InfoUpperLeftTextColorUser=255,0,0 InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0 InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0 InfoUpperRightTextEnable=True InfoWeaponSystemEnable=False MSAA=2 NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64 NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1 SSAA=0 TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=120 TEXTURE_FILTERING=4 TransitionTime=4.000000 TRIPLE_BUFFER=0 UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0 VSYNC=0 WideViewAspect=False [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980.0.0] Mode=1920x1080x32 [DynamicHeadMovement] HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000 LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000 LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000 MaxHeadAngle=5.000000 MaxHeadOffset=0.300000 RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000 RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000 YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000 [FACILITIES] CITY= COUNTRY= GTL_BUTTON=4096 STATE= [GRAPHICS] AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1 BUILDING_SHADOWS_CAST=0 BUILDING_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0 CLOUD_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=2 CLOUD_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=512 CLOUD_SHADOWS_CAST=1 COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1 CONTENT_NO_SHADOW=0 DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1 DYNAMIC_REFLECTIONS=0 EFFECTS_DISTANCE=1 EFFECTS_QUALITY=2 EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1 EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1 ForceWindowedVsync=1 GROUND_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=2048 HDR=1 HDR_BLOOM_BLUR_SIGMA=0.800000 HDR_BLOOM_MAGNITUDE=2.060000 HDR_BLOOM_THRESHOLD=3.000000 HDR_BRIGHTNESS=1.040000 HDR_SATURATION=0.490000 IMAGE_QUALITY=0 INTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1 INTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1 LANDING_LIGHTS=1 LENSFLARE=0 MIPMAP_VC_PANELS=1 NUM_LIGHTS=4 OBJECT_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=0 SCREEN_CAPTURE_MAX_JOBS=10 See_Self=1 SHADER_CACHE_VERSION=1 SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_HIGH=0.850000 SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_LOW=0.850000 SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_MID=0.850000 SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_ULTRA=0.850000 SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_HIGH=7 SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_LOW=4 SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_MID=5 SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_ULTRA=12 SHADOW_QUALITY=3 SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_CAST=0 SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0 TERRAIN_SHADOW_CAST_DISTANCE=2 TERRAIN_SHADOWS_CAST=1 TERRAIN_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1 TESSELLATION=1 Text_Scroll=1 TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024 TEXTURE_QUALITY=3 TONEMAP_DAY_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.280000 TONEMAP_NIGHT_EXPOSURE_KEY=0.130000 VEGETATION_SHADOWS_CAST=0 VEGETATION_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0 VIDEO_CAPTURE_BIT_RATE=800000 VIDEO_CAPTURE_FPS=30 VIDEO_CAPTURE_HEIGHT=360 VIDEO_CAPTURE_WIDTH=480 ViewGroup_Number=-1 [iNTERNATIONAL] ASLAT=2 ASLON=1 MEASURE=0 [JOBSCHEDULER] AffinityMask=14 [MAIN] DISABLEPRELOAD=1 FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.1 HIDEINFOTEXT=1 HideMenuFullscreen=1 HideMenuNormal=0 IgnoreInvalidLocale=True LabelsSupported=Airplane, Helicopter Location=1,7,1921,1047,\\.\DISPLAY1 LocationFullScreen=0,0,1920,1080,\\.\DISPLAY1 Maximized=0 ShowInfoText=1 SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Avatars SimObjectPaths.10=SimObjects\Weapons SimObjectPaths.11=SimObjects\Countermeasures SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\UT2 Aircraft SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\IVAO_MTL SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Rotorcraft SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\GroundVehicles SimObjectPaths.6=SimObjects\Boats SimObjectPaths.7=SimObjects\Animals SimObjectPaths.8=SimObjects\Misc SimObjectPaths.9=SimObjects\Submersible SimObjectPathsRemarks=These entries were automatically added from SimObjects.cfg by Migration Tool. Set RepairConfig=0 in MigrationTool.cfg to disable. User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter, Submersible, ExternalSim, Avatar [MISC] Com_Rate=7 [MOUSE] EnableGestures=False [PANELS] IMAGE_QUALITY=1 PANEL_MASKING=1 PANEL_OPACITY=100 PANEL_STRETCHING=1 PANELS_ALWAYS_ON_TOP=1 QUICKTIPS=0 SAVE_AND_LOAD_PANEL_STATE=0 UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0 [PointOfInterestSystem] CycleSetting=0 [REALISM] AllowEngineDamage=True AutoCoord=False CrashDetection=False CrashTolerance=1.000000 CrashWithDyn=True GEffect=True General=1.000000 GyroDrift=False GyroEffect=1.000000 ManualLights=True OnCrashAction=0 PFactor=1.000000 RealMixture=True StressDamage=False Torque=1.000000 TrueAirspeed=False UnlimitedFuel=False [RECORDER] RecordAirportVehicles=True RecordAITraffic=True RecordLeisureBoats=True [sCENERY] AUTOGEN_BATCH_LOD=2 AUTOGEN_TREE_MAX_DRAW_DISTANCE=9500.000000 AUTOGEN_TREE_MIN_DISTANCE_TO_LOD=2500.000000 IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=3 MaxRegionsPurgePerFrame=16 POP_FREE_AUTOGEN=1 [sIM] OPTIMIZE_PARTS=1 SYSCLOCK=0 [slewTextInfo.1] AirSpeed=1,5 Altitude=1,3 Heading=1,4 Latitude=1,1 Longitude=1,2 [slewTextInfo.2] FrameRate=1,1 LockedFrameRate=1,2 [slewTextInfo.3] AirSpeed=1,5 Altitude=1,3 FrameRate=2,1 Heading=1,4 Latitude=1,1 LockedFrameRate=2,2 Longitude=1,2 [sOUND] PrimaryPlaybackDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03} SOUND=1 SOUND_FADER1=0.260000 SOUND_FADER2=0.500000 SOUND_FADER3=0.500000 SOUND_FADER4=-0.500000 SOUND_LOD=0 SOUND_QUALITY=2 VoiceCaptureDevice={DEF00003-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03} VoicePlaybackDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03} [sTARTUP] DEMO=0 LOAD_SCENARIO_TOOLS=1 LoadCorePlugins=1 LoadWindow=1 STARTUP_DEMO= [TERRAIN] AUTOGEN_BUILDING_DENSITY=3 AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_DENSITY=4 DETAIL_TEXTURE=1 ENABLE_BATHYMETRY=1 LOD_RADIUS=4.500000 MESH_RESOLUTION=21 SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=30 TESSELLATION_FACTOR=85 TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=25 UseGlobalTerrainView=True WATER_CLARITY=30 WATER_DETAIL=1 WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0 WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0 WATER_REFLECT_CLOUDS=1 WATER_REFLECT_SIMOBJECTS=0 WATER_REFLECT_TERRAIN=0 WATER_REFLECT_USERAIRCRAFT=1 WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0 WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0 WATER_REFRACT_CLOUDS=0 WATER_REFRACT_SIMOBJECTS=0 WATER_REFRACT_TERRAIN=0 WATER_REFRACT_USERAIRCRAFT=0 [TextInfo.1] AirSpeed=1,5 Altitude=1,3 Heading=1,4 Latitude=1,1 Longitude=1,2 WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6 [TextInfo.2] FrameRate=1,1 FuelPercentage=1,4 GForce=1,3 LockedFrameRate=1,2 [TextInfo.3] AirSpeed=1,5 Altitude=1,3 FrameRate=2,1 FuelPercentage=2,4 GForce=2,3 Heading=1,4 Latitude=1,1 LockedFrameRate=2,2 Longitude=1,2 WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6 [TrafficManager] AirlineDensity=75 AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=0 FreewayDensity=8 GADensity=6 IFROnly=0 LeisureBoatsDensity=15 ShipsAndFerriesDensity=15 [uSERINTERFACE] Map_Orientation=2 MUTE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1 PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0 PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1 RestoreTimeOnMove=1 ScreenshotImageFormat=0 SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0 SHOW_SCENARIO_WINDOW=1 [VirtualCopilot] VirtualCopilotActive=0 [WEATHER] AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1 CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8 CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=5 CLOUD_FACING_MODE=0 DETAILED_CLOUDS=1 DisableTurbulence=0 DownloadWindsAloft=0 DynamicWeather=0 MaxGustRampSpeed=200 MaxGustTime=500 MaxVarRampSpeed=75 MaxVarTime=50 MinGustRampSpeed=1 MinGustTime=10 MinVarRampSpeed=10 MinVarTime=5 OPTIMIZE_DENSE_CLOUDS=1 THERMAL_VISUALS=1 TurbulenceScale=1.000000 VolumetricFog=1 WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0 WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1 [MULTICHANNEL] condAccountPassword=0 [MULTIPLAYER] condAccountPassword=0 VoiceVolume=-1.000000 FrameSyncRate=0 So, what to do? What could even cause this once of a sudden? Is there any entry that manages this parameter? Hope re-install is not only option, as it takes about 4 days to set up all these addons again.. :////
October 14, 20169 yr Try with Lower settings. AI traffic at 75% ? Lower the car traffic. Try with it off first. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 14, 20169 yr How did you get the following entry in your prepar3d.cfg? [JOBSCHEDULER] AffinityMask=14 Have you entered it yourself, or was it there already? This entry should not exist by default! I suspect that you are using some add-on that manipulates your cfg file each time you use Prepar3D, even after you delete the configuration file and let P3D rebuild a new one. The reason for my suspicion is that your cfg file looks very arranged (with free spaces between the sections written out in capital letters in brackets) and in alphabetical order as far as the listing of the sections, which is NOT what you see by default. I know that FSDreamteam's add-on manager offers the option to make modifications to your cfg file from their tool. I also know that the Estonia migration tool rearranges your prepar3d.cfg, but it doesn't add new entries. Could you list the add-ons that you are using?
October 14, 20169 yr Author Thanks for replies.. Tried traffic off, no change.. About Affinity mask -> the only thing i changed since new .cfg was created (as I tested if it makes difference, but it doesn't) Addons (which have been used since the beginning and haven't caused any problems before): -FTX global, vector -REX 4 texture direct with soft clouds -AS 2016 -FsCaptain -EzDok camera -Fsuipc (up to date) -Ultimate traffic 2 -GSX What could once of a sudden cause alpha-fade of autogen to stop working? That's really strange..
October 14, 20169 yr [JOBSCHEDULER]AffinityMask=14 Unless you have Hyper-Threading turned in your BIOS, P3D does not require this entry. From everything I have read and personal experience, get rid of it if you don't have Hyper-Threading turned on in your BIOS. You want P3D to have full access to ALL of your cores. Add-ons such as Active Sky and other EXE based add-ons should be moved off of Core 0 (and Core 1 if you can spare it) and put on their own cores. This can be done via batch file or if you want to keep life simple use a program like SimStarterNG to point your add-ons at different cores. This may help. In your list above, on my setup, I have Active Sky, EZDOK running on Core 2,3,4 and 5. The only thing running on Core 0 and 1 is P3D and Windows. (I have 3930k 6-Core). If you only have a 4-core you'll want your add-ons running on cores 2 and 3. Works great on my end and keeps my sim smooth and locked at 30 FPS most of the time. I don't see Autogen pop either. Captain K-Man FlightBlog Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCulqmz0zmIMuAzJvDAZPkWQ // Streaming on YouTube most Wednesdays and Fridays @ 6pm CST Brian Navy
October 14, 20169 yr I don't know it looks normal to me for loading in addon scenery areas. When I had Orbx soca installed and my addon airports (along with the addon aircraft I was flying) my tiles would pop in too. As I understand, it's the hardware trying to catch up. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
October 15, 20169 yr if you can put the autogen shadow receive on, it will make it look way better, and should hide the effect to some extent when the autogen is in shadow (which is when it would be most noticeable) . i cant run with it off, bright autogen etc in shadowed areas looks terrible.
October 18, 20169 yr Author Hi guys.. Sory for late reply... I decided to do a complete p3d reinstall as it really got on my nerves.. So yeah... Now, again installin all addons, step by step... Damn! And yes, after fresh re-install, alpha-fades are back. I'm pretty sure, that upgrade to 3.4 (from 3.3) caused problem, as I installed Client and Content only, not Scenery. I think here was the bug... Thanks anyways
October 18, 20169 yr I believe this was the price to pay for OOM improvement? Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
October 19, 20169 yr I have a different take on what's going on in this video. It is very easy to replicate such "popping autogen" by flying very fast at a fairly low altitude even with one of the default jet fighters, like for example the F35. Because the user's viewpoint is so detailed (low altitude gives you simobjects with the highest LOD models and the highest resolution textures) and the aircraft is flying so fast, the computer cannot keep up with loading autogen and scenery. FSX and subsequently P3d are designed to work this way. The other alternative would be to have the entire landscape be a patchwork quilt of high quality textures plus autogen ... combined with black rectangles. I guess that ACES probably decided that the user would rather see an entire landscape of low resolution textures without autogen.
October 19, 20169 yr You also have LOD Radius at 4.5. which is fine if you want more FPS but should be at 6.5. Could also try upping FTFF to 0.2 or higher. But like Jay said above if you are flying at say between 250-300 kts at 1000 to 9000 ft the sim will always be trying to play catch up with the autogen and sharpen textures. Jason Weaver - WestWind Airlines; FlyUK Airlines; VirtualUnited.org
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