December 27, 20169 yr Hi, it would be really helpful if anyone could help me I fly 90% of the time in the PMDG 777 and I always get an OOM error on final My specs: Inter® Core2 Duo CPU E7500 @2.93GHz 2.94 GHz RAM: 4.00 GB (3.00 GB usable) 32 bit operating system. I know its not suitable for gaming I never get OOM when using default airports but when I use da freeware airports the VAS reduces rapidly during touchdown and I get an OOM error. ( I fly in VATSIM) If anyone of you could fix this error then I would be more happier than my wedding day Its really frustrating when one day I was about to land after a 9 hour flight from Delhi to Heathrow and then an OOM error occured just after touchdown... I only wanna use the freeware airports to get the updated taxiways and gates as provided in the charts. Not the payware ones.... I hope anyone could tell me a solution for me
December 27, 20169 yr Commercial Member Probably the cheapest solution is to get another 4GB of DDR2 and upgrade to a 64-bit version of Windows. Cheers! Luke Luke Kolin I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.
December 27, 20169 yr Author Probably the cheapest solution is to get another 4GB of DDR2 and upgrade to a 64-bit version of Windows. Cheers! Luke Any alternatives other than that? My parents wouldnt let me buy a card... :( I know it sucks... MercenaryTiger
December 27, 20169 yr Commercial Member The free option is to put the 777 in the hangar for a while. :( Cheers! Luke Kolin I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.
December 27, 20169 yr MercenaryTiger More Ram wont prevent OOM/VAS. FSX and P3D are 32 bit applications, they can only use up to 4gb RAM, of which the operating system and everything else needs a piece of. The Forums have numerous post with OOM issues, myself included, until LM releases a 64 bit version of P3D (assumimg you are using P3D), which would raise the 4gb limit this will always happen. You have a very basic system, the PMDG 777 alone uses 800mb of VAS.. The only suggestion that may would be to back off your sliders for scenery and autogen, probably everything else. I recommend running a VAS monitor each flight to determine exactly what scenery/aircraft are using up your RAM. I have had to stop flying the 737NGX and 777 because of OOM/VAS. I'm now using the AS Airbus and the newly released TFDi B717, which shows promise for memory usage. We can no longer just get up and fly in Flight Simulation, we have to be system monitors as well. steve
December 27, 20169 yr In Windowed mode I read somewhere that if you click on the 'Maximize/Restore Down' button to restore down the window for a few seconds then maximize you can recover some VAS. As odd as it sounds, it works. Flying the Q400 from Flightbeam's KIAD to Imaginesim's KRDU would result in an OOM error about the time I entered the approach for KRDU. Doing the above a few times during the flight eliminated the issue. If you have FSUIPC4 I would recommend setting up the option to observe your available VAS in the title bar or use the FSX VAS Monitor. Ernie
December 27, 20169 yr Cheapest solution? Save your flight before TOD. Then restart FSX, load the saved flight and you're done. Log off VATSIM first. You can always rejoin he session once you're established in stable flight again. Cheers! MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 | i5 13600KF | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600MHz | RTX 3080 (12GB) | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB | Samsung 850EVO 500GB | Crucial P3+ 2TB NVMe | 2TB Seagate HDD | Deepcool AK500 CPU Cooler | Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS | CH Yoke | Various Winctrl hardware | 21:9 1440p UW monitor | Win 11 23H2 build | MSFS2020 | Tony K.
December 27, 20169 yr ore Ram wont prevent OOM/VAS. FSX and P3D are 32 bit applications, they can only use up to 4gb RAM This is true but OP has a 32 bit Windows OS so he can only use up to 2GB of VAS unless he employs the /3GB switch - http://scorpion.tordivel.no/help/GettingStarted/3gswitch.htm. Only in a 64 bit version of Windows can you use up to 4GB's. With his current system setup, he's going to have to use FSX without any scenery other than the default when he's using the PMDG 777. He might get away with it if he limits his flights to no more than two hours. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
December 27, 20169 yr This is true but OP has a 32 bit Windows OS so he can only use up to 2GB of VAS unless he employs the /3GB switch - http://scorpion.tordivel.no/help/GettingStarted/3gswitch.htm. Only in a 64 bit version of Windows can you use up to 4GB's. With his current system setup, he's going to have to use FSX without any scenery other than the default when he's using the PMDG 777. He might get away with it if he limits his flights to no more than two hours. Best regards, Jim Thanks Jim, I always get myself confused with RAM/VAS. I think it's 64 bit or nothing these days. In your capacity, have you heard anything definite from LM in going down this path?
December 28, 20169 yr I don't have anymore info than anyone else. I just know that LM appears to be following the same development strategy as Microsoft did for FS. Microsoft released a new version every two years (i.e., 2000, 2002, 2004, FSX). P3D V3 was released in Sep 2015 so a V4 should arrive around Sep 2017 if they continue to follow previous release strategies (they don't have to). So we should know sometime around Sep 2017. I know many members will be high agitated if there isn't a major upgrade like to 64 bit!! Most Windows OS disks contain the 64 bit version of the OS too. If not, think you can get one for a small shipping and handling fee as it should be free. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
December 28, 20169 yr Cheapest solution? Save your flight before TOD. Then restart FSX, load the saved flight and you're done. Log off VATSIM first. You can always rejoin he session once you're established in stable flight again. This plus using a program like Scenery Config Editor to limit scenery loading to only the dept/arrival airports and enroute areas might give you a fighting chance even on a 32-bit system. FSX does not release the memory used by departure airport and enroute scenery--restarting the sim gives you a fresh start with no VAS blocked by scenery already behind you. Arrival is always challenging from a VAS perspective, as you get the double-whammy of loading the airport scenery objects and all the AI aircraft on/around the airport. Starting that scenery load with a bunch of unreleased and/or fragmented VAS from the flight in often proves to be a bridge too far. The "A" answer is to upgrade to a 64-bit OS...but not sure I'd go there on an old dual-core machine. The 3GB switch can also help, but can cause other issues, especially if you have a video card with a lot (>2 GB) of VRAM. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
December 29, 20169 yr Author This is true but OP has a 32 bit Windows OS so he can only use up to 2GB of VAS unless he employs the /3GB switch - http://scorpion.tordivel.no/help/GettingStarted/3gswitch.htm. Only in a 64 bit version of Windows can you use up to 4GB's. With his current system setup, he's going to have to use FSX without any scenery other than the default when he's using the PMDG 777. He might get away with it if he limits his flights to no more than two hours. Best regards Thanks for the suggestion, Im gonna try to do the 3GB switch thing. I'll tell the results after some time.
December 29, 20169 yr Author This is true but OP has a 32 bit Windows OS so he can only use up to 2GB of VAS unless he employs the /3GB switch - http://scorpion.tordivel.no/help/GettingStarted/3gswitch.htm. Only in a 64 bit version of Windows can you use up to 4GB's. With his current system setup, he's going to have to use FSX without any scenery other than the default when he's using the PMDG 777. He might get away with it if he limits his flights to no more than two hours. Best regards, Jim OH MY GOD THIS IS UNBELIEVEABLE I changed to 3GB switch I THOUGHT I HAD TO SPEND MY LIFE FLYING IN DEFAULT AIRPORTS Previously I had 200-150 mb of VAS, NOW I HAVE 1GB+ VAS I love you Jim Young you are a god!! You have no idea how happy I am! Thanks soooooo much for the help :smile: :smile:
December 29, 20169 yr You have no idea how happy I am! Every so often I get lucky and say something right.... Good to hear it works (so far). Happy New Year! Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
December 29, 20169 yr Author Every so often I get lucky and say something right.... Good to hear it works (so far). Happy New Year! Best regards, Jim Happy New Year to you too :wink: MercenaryTiger
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