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Frame rates fluctuating FSE-SE

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Frame rates fluctuating 30 to 5-6.

I locked the frame on 30 and for  while had no issues it was stable 3-26 depend on the area, however recently for some reason it jumping like crazy from 30 to 5-6 ..... very unstable flight 

 

Any thoughts ?

 

 

Tnx  

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Could be anything... processes running in the background, CPU overheating, flying into dense scenery..

 

You will have to do some troubleshooting first..

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Hello,

 

Like Bert said above, could really be an endless amount of things. Most commonly, as in my case the only way I was going to get a constant 30fps with heavy addons and scenery was to spend close to £1000 on a tailored FSX rig. And it worked. 

 

My old AMD rig would give me 30fps one day, and the next day give 9 fps. Thats when I had enough.

 

Start by telling us your specs?

 

Regards,

 

Will. 

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oopss .. u r right

 

Spec:

  • Intel i5 4690K OC via Bios to 4.2GHZ 
  • Memory: 8GB at 1866HAZ 
  • Storage: 2 SSD, one for the OS Win10 64Bit and the other for the Sim
  • Add on: nothing but FTX SoCal & 2 Carenado AC

 

Sliders:

  • Global texture resolution High
  • Filtering Anisotropic
  • Anti Alisasing  checked
  • Terrain: All slider to the right 
  • Water : High 1x
  • NV Inspector setup base on AVISM guidelines  
  • Weather: Visual setting Minimum, Cloud detail Medium (Weather generate  by Engine from Open Cloud)
  • Traffic: no Traffic 

 

I run Primw95 for 4 hours. No issues at all

 

The sluggish performance start after I swap Cases for better ventilation

 

Those spikes in frame rates are really annoying 

 

Tnx in advance

 

Yair

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..he...he...he ... and what do you expect that 2 Schlemiels will solve the same problem that one can't  ..lol  

 

Anyway, I did adjust the OC 2 4.0GHZ and thing seems to be a bit better ..... but still I would like to find out why it's happening

 

Cheers

 

 

BTW

 

I forgot to mention my GPU is EVGA GTX 970 run on stock clock     

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Nota bene: I corrected the title for you to correct the spelling. On first glance it looked like "flatulating"... :LMAO:

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Swapping cases also means unplugging and re-plugging connectors.. maybe worth having another look :wink:

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Nota bene: I corrected the title for you to correct the spelling. On first glance it looked like "flatulating"... :LMAO:

..tnx :-) 

Must be something causing it.

 

I just flew in the NGX from Orbx ymml with FTX Australia into Fly Tampa Sydney which is brutal on fps.

Every slider to right EXCEPT road and GA traffic with airliner trafffic at 50%.

4 x MSAA and 4 x SGSS.

 

Less then 4.0 ghost CPU and 650 ti gpu.

 

Locked at 25 fps and pretty much 90% at that fps even in heavy clouds. Into yssy? Yikes. 13-17. But expected.

 

You have a better system then mine so something is up.

...I know something is not right, it is the panning ,especially, that cause sever spikes in frame rates , have no idea how to approach this is problem   

Swapping cases also means unplugging and re-plugging connectors.. maybe worth having another look :wink:

I double checked all the plug its all well connected and the computer run great   

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..honestly, I'll reimburse somebody for his time and expertise ..just need to get this thing up & flying, I see all those Youtube Vid on the big copmlex AC with tons of addons and it's all look so smooth and obvious, and all i need is to fly my little Cessna in SoCal ..what a frustration  :sendu:    

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Do you have a Buffer Pool entry in your fsx.cfg File ?

If so, delete it and try again. I also had the spike problem while panning in spot view. Removing the entry solved my problem. My specs are close to yours:  Intel i5 4690K at 3.9

            8 Gb DDR 3 ram

             nVidia GTX 1060 6Gb  Gaming X

 

Trevor

 

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6 hours ago, N1125Y said:

..honestly, I'll reimburse somebody for his time and expertise ..just need to get this thing up & flying, I see all those Youtube Vid on the big copmlex AC with tons of addons and it's all look so smooth and obvious, and all i need is to fly my little Cessna in SoCal ..what a frustration  :sendu:    

Never compare with youtube videos. They're probably doctored. Running the sim at half speed then running the video at twice the speed and then various other video editing stuff. That's how I would've done it if I had the energy and inclination to do videos.

If you've tried all tweaks and lowered setting etc and nothing works, then I'd suggest a complete reinstall. It sucks, but sometimes it's all you can do.

 

Andre

 

 

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..tnx guys

 

No I do not have Buffer Pool entry in my fsx.cfg ..and I guess last resort will be start from scratch .... you don't want to know how many times I already started in the last year or so (-:

Best

 

Yair

 

and this is how my new CFG looks like

 

[GRAPHICS]
MultiSamplesPerPixel=8
MultiSampleQuality=8
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693751040
SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693751040
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=2048
TEXTURE_Bandwith_Mult=80
D3D10=0

[SOUND]
AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000
[Display]
ChangeTime=4.000000
TransitionTime=4.000000
WideViewAspect=True

[Main]
DisablePreload=1
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.15
User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter
SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes
SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft
SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles
SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats
SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals
SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc
ProcSpeed=18487
PerfBucket=7
Maximized=1
Location=440,129,1480,908,\\.\DISPLAY1

[PANELS]
IMAGE_QUALITY=1
DEFAULT_VIEW=0
[Weather]
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
MinGustTime=10
MaxGustTime=500
MinGustRampSpeed=1
MaxGustRampSpeed=200
MinVarTime=5
MaxVarTime=50
MinVarRampSpeed=10
MaxVarRampSpeed=75
TurbulenceScale=1.000000
WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com
WeatherServerPort=80
WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0
AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1
DynamicWeather=2
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=0

[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970.0]
Mode=1920x1080x32
TriLinear=0
Anisotropic=1
AntiAlias=1

[AccelerationPack]
ControlsFirstRun=0
HomePageFirstRun=0

[CONTROLS]
Controls_Default=Standard
Controls_Current=Standard

[TextInfo.1]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

[TextInfo.2]
FrameRate=1,1
LockedFrameRate=1,2
GForce=1,3
FuelPercentage=1,4

[TextInfo.3]
Latitude=1,1
Longitude=1,2
Altitude=1,3
Heading=1,4
AirSpeed=1,5
WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6
FrameRate=2,1
LockedFrameRate=2,2
GForce=2,3
FuelPercentage=2,4

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12 hours ago, N1125Y said:

..honestly, I'll reimburse somebody for his time and expertise ..just need to get this thing up & flying, I see all those Youtube Vid on the big copmlex AC with tons of addons and it's all look so smooth and obvious, and all i need is to fly my little Cessna in SoCal ..what a frustration  :sendu:    

Orbx SoCal can be quite heavy on performance.. so do not expect a steady 30 fps there, no matter what.  Panning around will also force scenery loading and fps impacts..

Maybe what you are observing is the limit of what your system can produce in real time.

Suggest focus on enjoying the flying and forget about the fps counter - turn the darn thing off!

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Your anti-aliasing settings look a bit high for the card you are using.

You could also try running DX10 as it runs better under load than DX9 does.

The default Texture Bandwidth Mult for FSX-SE is 160. Your card can easily handle it.

Other than that, try deleting your config file and not to apply any tweaks to it. Modern systems don't really need them.

If you're having performance issues, it's a sign your settings are too high and your system can't handle it.

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It's is probably just that your machine can't handle the load. Lowering settings is the only way out of that or upgrading your machine. Your settings are very high, higher than mine even though my machine is more powerful than yours

  • Try ditching the HD textures and lower your Texture Max Load to 1024.
  • Like Jeff said, run it DX10. There's really no point in sticking with DX9 now that Steve's fixer exits. 
  • Terrain all max -- too high, lower mesh resolution to 10 and texture resolution to 1m, maybe mesh complexity to 75 if you don't see results. 
  • Water - 2xlow not highx1 - in DX9 it's not a good idea to go above 2xlow. 
  • Turn off all shadows if you have them on - major performance hit in DX9 (again why you should go for DX10)
  • Turn off bloom if you have it on 
  • Autogen settings - major performance hit, your system should be able to handle Dense if turn down some other settings
  • Add Bufferpools in your config. With your card Poolsize=0 will probably give you a boost. You may see artifacts in which case you can fix that with water set to 2xhigh, but then you'll lose the befefit of bufferpools in the first place. Again, DX10 is better. 

Hope this helps

Andre

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18 hours ago, magnetite said:

Your anti-aliasing settings look a bit high for the card you are using.

He's only running at 1920x1080 so should have no problems with a GTX 970. I run the same settings in FSX with my 970 at 2560x1440 without any issues.

N1125Y - your machine should run OK at these settings but, just to be sure, if you don't already have some sort of hardware monitor it's worth downloading something like MSI Afterburner to check the performance: https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner. Ignore the overclocking settings and just look at the hardware monitors. Select the GPU and CPU1 usage and temperatures specifically under the Monitoring tab in the settings. It shows several minutes of data so you don't need to be watching it continuously. If the GPU/CPU usage is regularly hitting 100% then you have a bottleneck. Similarly, if the temperatures are very high (80+) then that could also be an indication of a hardware problem.

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Also, if you're using DX9, try deselecting the in-game anti-aliasing/anisotropic filtering settings and set them in NVIDIA Profile Inspector instead (and maybe try bilinear filtering in FSX). This stops FSX doing the work and moves it to the drivers. I haven't used DX9 for quite some time but seem to recall that this gave better performance.

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..Hey guys and needles to say that all your support is highly appreciate,

I'll try the DX10 maybe this will bring salvation ... lol 

But, and I'm d .... serious about it , and please excuse me for my ignorance, how comes that Simmers with the same spec as mine i5 at 4.2Ghz and GTX970 about 10% OC running FSX with sliders all (or almost) all the way to the right , loading Heavy big complex Birds, tons of addons and AI, weather generators, and the hell know what else, reporting smooth and high sim performance, and me the little guy that fly little Cessna covering a very limited distances in SoCal, and the only addon is FTX SoCal is struggling with performance and need to compromise on quality, after all FSX is way over 10 years old and whoever design it didn't have the power of current machines ... do I need to to lease Super Computer like "Tianhe", maybe some skills deficiencies, or what ????

Yair

BTW

        Funny, I had 6 years old AMD Phenom X4 with Radeaon GPU, AND I was told not to expect any satisfactory performance unless I'll upgrade and move to intel & NVEDIA base system, let me tell you that as of now, the old AMD did not leg behind the more recent and up scaled Rig ....  :biggrin:

 

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What performance do you get if you fly outside the Orbx region?

As mentioned above, FTX SoCal is pretty heavy on performance and some users avoid it, for that reason.

One more thing - turn off all traffic as a test. Road traffic in particular..

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If others are getting better performance with the same system specs are you, it might be your tweaks in the config file. Or they could be running DX10, which runs better under load than DX9 does.

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..don't use traffic at all  .... 

Tweaking, well, I'm not a tech Savvy and due to luck of knowledge i have to use some references so I'm using AVSIM Guide as a reference for the cfg and Inspector

No FTX, means going to Stock, can't argue, but it seems weird to me, and if it is so it is for me "Beso de muerte" as a simmer ... 

Running out of the FTX get me the same thing, Spikes in Frame rate (I have no issue with the frams when they steady on 30, everything is actually, looks very good) it goes from 30 to 2-3 and up to 30 again, so I'm kind of doubt it is FTX .....        

 

Bless

 

Yair

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4 hours ago, N1125Y said:

how comes that Simmers with the same spec as mine i5 at 4.2Ghz and GTX970 about 10% OC running FSX with sliders all (or almost) all the way to the right , loading Heavy big complex Birds, tons of addons and AI, weather generators, and the hell know what else, reporting smooth and high sim performance,

 

The answer is, they probably can't. Like I said above, those youtube videos are probably heavily edited. Multiple takes, showing only what looks good, leaving the blurry stuff on the cutting room floor, running the sim on half or slower speed while running the video faster, dubbing the audio over the video....you name it. As for what people say on forums....well, this is the internet. :-)

btw, have a look at thousands of requests for help over the years with performance related issues with FSX and/or P3D, even from people with high end systems. They way outnumber the people who claim to be running things with Orbx, PMDG and "everything to the right" settings. 

My tip, lower your settings and stop fretting. So much time wasted trying to trim this freakin' sim. Lower the settings and just fly

Andre

 

 

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