March 22, 20179 yr As the title says I'm interested in what you pay to get fiber to your house! I work for an ISP here in Finland and finance my addiction to flightsimming by selling our fiber connections in my free time and some say it's soo expensive. In my small town of 13,000 inhabitants it costs 295 euros (approx USD 320) to get fiber installed and that's the total sum, ie it includes the fiber converter and everything involved in getting the fiber cable into your house and the service working. In the rural area it costs between 495 euro (USD 530) if the area is "fiber planned" to 1995 euro (USD 2150). It's difficult finding updated info on what it costs in other areas/countries and it's always dependent on many factors so therefore I'm asking! :) Krister LindénEFMA, Finland------------------
March 22, 20179 yr well i cannot say much about it outside of my area, but my impression is that fiber is still pretty rare for residential service in the usa. even here in tech-centric san francisco, at&t just started making it available last year, and it is still not available in my neighborhood which is just a few miles from downtown. the rate they quote is 80USD per month. but i don't think they have an installation charge, either it is available or it isn't. i'm guessing if you go the business route you could probably get a quote for getting it to your street right way, but i have not inquired about this. there are certainly plenty of businesses in the city that have high bandwidth requirements but i don't know how many of them host their datacenters in the city limits. although again that isn't really residential related. i think some of their attention has been further south on the peninsula around cupertino and other silicon valley areas that are more suburban where it might be easier to add more cables. the usa internet provider market is often dominated by a few monopolistic players so there isn't really a whole lot of incentive for them to provide upgrades. my comcast 10mbs connection runs $40 a month or something like that in conjunction with other costs for television. i heard that google has been trying to roll out fiber to a few other test cities around the usa but has met strong oppositon from the local cable companies and in some cases they are cancelling or backing out of those plans. good luck with your search for information cheers,-andy crosby
March 22, 20179 yr Author Thanks! I certainly would have thought fiber was readily available in San Fransisco. Perhaps many use internet over cable tv which can provide very high bandwith and therefore limits the interest in fiber?! Krister LindénEFMA, Finland------------------
March 22, 20179 yr 40 minutes ago, Krister said: Thanks! I certainly would have thought fiber was readily available in San Fransisco. Perhaps many use internet over cable tv which can provide very high bandwith and therefore limits the interest in fiber?! I work for the company which originally invented optical fiber, and is the largest fiber supplier in the world, but fiber internet has only recently available locally - though admittedly, this is a semi-rural area - not a large city by any means. The company rolling it out is NOT a large national telecom provider (like Verizon or Google), but a relatively small regional startup. I have been using cable internet provided by Time Warner Cable (now Spectrum) for almost 20 years. Though it has been pretty good for most of that time, it does increasingly have issues with service disruptions. TWC/Spectrum is in hot water with several state regulators for selling so-called "ultra high speed" internet service (at a premium price), that does not come close to meeting the claimed bandwidth and speed claims. I'm watching the new fiber provider with interest. I'm not ready to switch just yet, but if their network proves to be reliable, I might well make the change. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
March 22, 20179 yr Free to have it installed by my ISP, £45 per month thereafter for a 200mbs connection
March 22, 20179 yr CenturyLink in Tacoma is building out fiber thru out the city. We dropped 12mg/sec cable internet in January 2015 which was costing us about $50/month and switched to 40 mg/sec DSL from CenturyLink that provides phone and internet for about $80-$90/month. I recommended the switch to my daughter who lives in an older part of the city. CenturyLink brought fiber to her house and switched her phone and internet to that service. She's paying about $100/month including the cost of the modem for 40mg/sec. The installers said that CenturyLink was replacing the copper as they build out. £45 for 200mb/sec is very reasonable. Wish we could get that here. James M Driskell, Maj USMC (Ret)
March 22, 20179 yr Bell Canada provides fibre service in my area at prices competitive to our cable provider. It's becoming quite pervasive in southern Ontario, Canada and if it's on your street, installation is usually free (generally with a term commitment to the service). I even have fibre service at my rural cottage! I should mention though that telecommunications services in Canada are generally considered pretty expensive. (Mobile in particular) [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
March 22, 20179 yr Author Thanks for the answers! I am a bit surprised that you can have it installed for free since at least here it takes quite a bit of effort to get everthing into the ground and then into the house. Here in Fijnland you are not allowed to have a term commitment to a service, only if you have a physical product involved, so perhaps some kind of explanation. On the other hand mobile data is quite cheap here - with no cap on data or bandwith (I typicall download at approx 60-100 Mbps) I pay about USD 23 monthly for a 4G service. Krister LindénEFMA, Finland------------------
March 22, 20179 yr Hi Krister Siro is one Company in Ireland rolling out Fiber to the home there website is http://siro.ie/roll-out/ you might get some useful info. There advertising speeds of 1GBs, There not in my area yet so i cant say about prices but i am currently being charged €55 a month for fiber to the local exchange, which is advertised as 100mb but in reality is 30/40mb due to copper wire from exchange to my house, Phone, line rental, service and modem is included in that price. Stephen Asus Z170 Deluxe, 32 GB DDR4 Dominator Platinum, i7 6700k mild overclock, GTX Titan ( Pascal ) Win10
March 23, 20179 yr 2 hours ago, Krister said: Here in Fijnland you are not allowed to have a term commitment to a service, only if you have a physical product involved, so perhaps some kind of explanation. I believe you've hit on it, Krister. Here in America the ISP monopolies are all about term commitments... and they know how to play those commitments for the greatest profit. They are, quite simply, sleazy beyond imagination! I would much prefer Finland's laws on the subject. Another variable in all this are the local communities themselves. Town's/cities/counties negotiate with ISP's to build infrastructure, which on the surface seems like the least expensive way to go (communities put the work out for bid... lowest bidder wins). Unfortunately, many consumers in America are limited in their choices of ISP's (whomever won the bid and built the infrastructure)... which means the service provider can hold the consumer hostage (and usually do). The lack of competition at the community level here means the consumer is basically trapped by the ISP's. I feel fortunate in having the choice between 2 ISP's... both of them lousy. But at least I have a choice... many in my country do not. Regards, Greg
March 31, 20179 yr One other thing to consider, especially in rural areas is wireless microwave internet, which can be very fast. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
April 2, 20179 yr 1 hour ago, Krister said: microwave internet?! :D Yup! http://conxx.net/ We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
April 4, 20179 yr 2Gbps up/down fiber to the house available here for $200/month. 250Mbps fiber to the neighborhood (DOCSIS 3.1 cable from the neighborhood interface box) is ~$75/month. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
April 4, 20179 yr On 2017-03-31 at 4:27 PM, HiFlyer said: One other thing to consider, especially in rural areas is wireless microwave internet, which can be very fast. Yep...have that here east of Ottawa, Canada. I'm rural, and they just put it in 3 months ago. I get unlimited data at 40mb/s down, 10mb/s up for $60CDN. Significantly cheaper than my old Satelite internet! Devin CYOW
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