On ‎23‎.‎05‎.‎2017 at 2:46 PM, RALF9636 said:

5. Readback of takeoff clearance

The FO did not automatically („you have ATC“ was set) readback the takeoff clearance. When I asked „reply to ATC“ he repeated the taxi clearance again.

 

That might have to do with the fact that I did not wait for PF3 to hand me off to Tower but switched to Tower manually before asking the FO „request takeoff clearance“.

 

This turned out to be a PF3 issue. The takeoff clearance apparently is missing from the captions when switching to Tower before told to do so by Ground.

Will be fixed.

 

Sorry to say that I am back to having MCE hang while running a flow (which is taking forever in PvDv3.4) and using PF3. always sees to happen when my FO might be reading back a frequency he's just dialed in.

On ‎30‎.‎05‎.‎2017 at 1:54 PM, DrumsArt said:

It was only with a resumed flight...Have you tried in this particular case (resume) ?

I can confirm that MCE does not work properly with a flight resumed in PF3.

The FO is not responding autonomously in "You have ATC" mode. When told to respond ("reply to ATC") instead of a proper readback he only says the callsign,

The closed captions in PF3 are correct though.

 

3 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

I can confirm that MCE does not work properly with a flight resumed in PF3.

The FO is not responding autonomously in "You have ATC" mode. When told to respond ("reply to ATC") instead of a proper readback he only says the callsign,

The closed captions in PF3 are correct though.

 

Thank you for confirming

Regards,

There will be an update tomorrow.

Will be able to ask FO to request a different runway and altitude. Resuming a saved flight should also be possible.

 

On 5/30/2017 at 7:56 PM, RALF9636 said:

Some questions:

 

How do I make my FO (if already implemented)

1. ask for "say again" (ctrl-shift-=)

2. request a "Cleared to final at pilot's discretion" (Hotkey 1)

3. announce a Go-Around (Hotkey 9)

4. declare Emergency (ctrl-shift-E)

5. request a different runway (ctrl-shift-W)

6. request a Direct to (ctrl-shift-D)?

 

7. There seems to be a delay of several seconds when saying "reply to ATC" before the FO starts talking, compared to his immediate responds in "You have ATC" - mode. Is there a reason / necessity for that? Or can this be improved?

 

This new patch should address all the above.

Download path from this link and manually replace files in MCE installation folder AND don't forget to replace fsInsider.dll in FSX and/or Prepar3D root folder.

This is a good one, and we're pleased with it.

After running tests with extreme traffic at Heahrow, it's obvious there is no way one can do without that PF3 mute key.

Therefore, from now on, MCE will ensure the option (Hotkey 22) is always enabled.

If you have enabled it already, MCE will leave it as is. Otherwise, it will enable it, set the hotkey to <Caps Lock> and set the mute time to 12 seconds.

Do not use DEL key, unless it is emulated via FSUIPC. The latter would treat it as a hotkey, and fsInsider (and MCE) won't see it.

See if the voice commands are intuitive enough. Eventually will post them later on.

As always, feedback welcome.

Thanks for the patch!

 

Have these issues also been adressed?
 

Quote

 

1. The FO (in "You have ATC" - mode) still contacts Tower for landing immediately after being told to contact Tower when established - even though still far away from final.

2. After landing the FO now autonomously contacts ground ("on frequency" / "with you") - but there is no answer.

Reason for that is that hotkey 0 is sent (as can be seen in the PF3 log). Hotkey 0 on Ground frequency means "request taxi to runway". The correct hotkey for "request taxi to parking/terminal" is hotkey 5.

Apart from that the original PF3 phrase in this situation is "... is clear of the active runway".

 

3. On another flight it happened again that the FO responded to calls for other Lufthansa flights.

 

4. When requesting pushback / startup the FO still sometimes says "Clearance Delivery". Sometimes it is correctly "Ground", but sometimes still "Delivery".

 

 

1 hour ago, FS++ said:

See if the voice commands are intuitive enough. Eventually will post them later on.

 

That would be very much appreciated. Not least to differentiate them from own voicescripts / voxkey commands.

 

28 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

Thanks for the patch!

 

Have these issues also been adressed?
 

 

Items 2 & 3 should be sorted. he's now better at filtering clearances.

2 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

 

That would be very much appreciated. Not least to differentiate them from own voicescripts / voxkey commands.

 

To get FO to announce Go-Around

< One of these sentences> (Required)
      please announce we're performing a missed approach
      please announce we're performing a go-around
      please announce we're aborting the approach
      please announce we're aborting the landing
      please announce we're aborting approach
      please announce we're aborting landing
      please announce we're overshooting the runway
      please announce we're overshooting
      please announce we're going around
      announce we're performing a missed approach
      announce we're performing a go-around
      announce we're aborting the approach
      announce we're aborting the landing
      announce we're aborting approach
      announce we're aborting landing
      announce we're overshooting the runway
      announce we're overshooting
      announce we're going around
      we're performing a missed approach
      we're performing a go-around
      we're aborting the approach
      we're aborting the landing
      we're aborting approach
      we're aborting landing
      we're overshooting the runway
      we're overshooting
      we're going around
    <End choice>

   
    Optionally_Say_whatever_You_Want_Here

To get FO to declare an Emergency

< One of these sentences> (Required)
      please advise controller
      please advise control center
      please advise center
      please tell controller
      please tell control center
      please tell center     
      please inform controller
      please inform control center
      please inform center
      advise controller
      advise control center
      advise center
      tell controller
      tell control center
      tell center
      inform controller
      inform control center
      inform center
      we are
      we're
    <End choice>

   < One of these sentences> (Required)
      we are declaring
      we're declaring
      declaring
    <End choice>
   
    < One of these sentences> (Required)
      pan pan pan
      an emergency
      emergency
    <End choice>

    Optionally_Say_whatever_You_Want_Here

To get FO to request cleared to final

< One of these sentences> (Required)
      request cleared to final at pilot's discretion
      request clearance to continue visual
      request clearance to proceed visual
      request clearance for a straight in
      request clearance for long final
      request clearance for a visual
      request clearance for final
    <End choice>

< You may utter one of these> (Optional)
        approach and landing
        full stop landing
        for the runway
        to the runway
        for the active
        to the active
        for runway
        for active
        for landing
        to runway
        to active
        approach
        full stop
        landing       
     <End choice>

Optionally_Say_whatever_You_Want_Here

Will list others tomorrow or Monday.

On 10/06/2017 at 8:04 PM, FS++ said:

This new patch should address all the above.

Download path from this link and manually replace files in MCE installation folder AND don't forget to replace fsInsider.dll in FSX and/or Prepar3D root folder.

This is a good one, and we're pleased with it.

After running tests with extreme traffic at Heahrow, it's obvious there is no way one can do without that PF3 mute key.

Therefore, from now on, MCE will ensure the option (Hotkey 22) is always enabled.

If you have enabled it already, MCE will leave it as is. Otherwise, it will enable it, set the hotkey to <Caps Lock> and set the mute time to 12 seconds.

Do not use DEL key, unless it is emulated via FSUIPC. The latter would treat it as a hotkey, and fsInsider (and MCE) won't see it.

See if the voice commands are intuitive enough. Eventually will post them later on.

As always, feedback welcome.

With this last patch the FO transmits my requests but no longer responds to ATC, he does not automatically change the frequencies or squawk when Atc responds.

My hotkey is to <Caps Lock>

Use Closed Caption mode checked

Auto Mute checked

Btw, there is a new PF3 update but I doubt it has anything to do with the problem. So, just in case, below some lines from the Pdf concerning MCE + PF3 :

"ADDED support for using MCE's FO - Obviously if you don't use MCE this will mean
nothing to you. If you do use MCE this might mean something to you but it won't
actually work with MCE until they make any necessary changes to their code. A new
file will now be created in your main PF3 folder named PF3_MCE.INI, within which
there will be three entries - Active=0, Logged=0 and PF3Transmitting=0. The first
entry 'Active' is off by default so you need to change it to read Active=1. Once
actiaveted PF3 will write certain ATC messages to a new file named 'Clearance.log'
within the PF3/Logs folder and this is what MCE will use instead of you having to
activate PF3's Closed Caption feature. You can have that feature enable too if you
wish but some users prefer no to but still wish use the new MCE feature which uses
their FO voice to talk with PF3's ATC. The other two entries are for MCE use only and
you will have no need to change them at all."

Thank you and Regards,

 

7 hours ago, DrumsArt said:

With this last patch the FO transmits my requests but no longer responds to ATC, he does not automatically change the frequencies or squawk when Atc responds.

My hotkey is to <Caps Lock>

Use Closed Caption mode checked

Auto Mute checked

Btw, there is a new PF3 update but I doubt it has anything to do with the problem. So, just in case, below some lines from the Pdf concerning MCE + PF3 :

"ADDED support for using MCE's FO - Obviously if you don't use MCE this will mean
nothing to you. If you do use MCE this might mean something to you but it won't
actually work with MCE until they make any necessary changes to their code. A new
file will now be created in your main PF3 folder named PF3_MCE.INI, within which
there will be three entries - Active=0, Logged=0 and PF3Transmitting=0. The first
entry 'Active' is off by default so you need to change it to read Active=1. Once
actiaveted PF3 will write certain ATC messages to a new file named 'Clearance.log'
within the PF3/Logs folder and this is what MCE will use instead of you having to
activate PF3's Closed Caption feature. You can have that feature enable too if you
wish but some users prefer no to but still wish use the new MCE feature which uses
their FO voice to talk with PF3's ATC. The other two entries are for MCE use only and
you will have no need to change them at all."

Thank you and Regards,

 

The new implementation which handles reading captions from file isn't in yet. For now use "Closed Captions".

It could be that you simply forgot to tell FO "You have the radio" at the beginning of the flight.

I guess, time to set FO to handle ATC by default, since he won't take the initiative to transmit without you prompting him/her anyway.

 

3 hours ago, FS++ said:

The new implementation which handles reading captions from file isn't in yet. For now use "Closed Captions".

It could be that you simply forgot to tell FO "You have the radio" at the beginning of the flight.

I guess, time to set FO to handle ATC by default, since he won't take the initiative to transmit without you prompting him/her anyway.

 

Of course I told FO "You have ATC or the radio"...Clearly I have a "glitch" with the last new patch. Maybe it's on my side, maybe on the Mce side. Am I alone to have this problem ?

Regards,

2.7.14

My FO still does respond to ATC autonomously when in "You have ATC"-mode.

He did not tune in the Ground frequency though after being handed off from Delivery. After that the frequencies were set properly.

 

I have a different issue:

When I return to "I have ATC" mode but then tell the FO to "reply to ATC" he does not readback the last command. He seems to always readback the ATC command which was given last before I said "I have ATC".

 

I would agree with making "You have ATC"- mode the default btw.

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

2.7.14

My FO still does respond to ATC autonomously when in "You have ATC"-mode.

He did not tune in the Ground frequency though after being handed off from Delivery. After that the frequencies were set properly.

 

I have a different issue:

When I return to "I have ATC" mode but then tell the FO to "reply to ATC" he does not readback the last command. He seems to always readback the ATC command which was given last before I said "I have ATC".

 

I would agree with making "You have ATC"- mode the default btw.

 

 

 

Do you run it with the new PF3 update ?

Regards,